The map indicates the addresses of all Journal News Employees in the New York Tri-State area. Each dot represents an individual Journal News employee — a reporter, editor or staffer. The data does not include freelancers — reporters or photographers — which can be hired without being an employee. Being included in this map does not mean the individual at a specific location is a responsible reporter or editor, just that they are a reporter or editor.
Data for all categories is included, but certain information is not available on an individual basis.
To create the map, Talk of the Sound submitted Google searches for the names and addresses of all Journal News employees in the New York Tri-State area. By state law, the information is public record.
Readers are still putting together records and could not immediately provide some data. The map will be updated when that data is released.
UPDATE: The Journal News has removed their gun map. Before you ask. “No, we are not taking down our map”.
My Washington Examiner Op-Ed is now up: Why I will not be taking down my map of Journal News employees
View Journal News Employees in a larger map
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Al Tompkins of the Poynter Institute has a thoughtful article on the journalistic considerations behind the Journal News decision to publish their map. I find myself entirely in agreement with his views on this issue.
The problem is not that the Gannett-owned Journal News was too aggressive. The problem is that the paper was not aggressive enough in its reporting to justify invading the privacy of people who legally own handguns in two counties it serves.
GOING GLOBAL: El Pais, the largest-circulated daily in Spain, has linked this article. Politiken, one of Denmark’s leading papers, has linked this article. The Daily Mail, the United Kingdom’s second biggest-selling daily newspaper, linked this article. Toronto Sun, one of Canada’s largest papers, has linked this article. Lenta.ru, one of the most popular Russian language online resources, has linked this article.
My map is a “rather sad-looking Google map” according to Rebecca at The Gothamist.
The links and traffic coming into the site are now in hyperdrive so I can no longer update every single link. Let me just give a general shout out to: Newser, Wizbang Blog, Politico, The Jawa Report, American Thinker, The New York Observer, Mediaite, The Village Voice, Gawker, Huffington Post, Live Leak, GOPUSA, San Francisco Chronicle, Reddit, I Own The World, Breitbart Big Journalism, World News Daily, New York Magazine, Yahoo! News, The Wrap, Free Republic, Lucianne, Ann Coulter, BizzyBlog, BizPacReview, Opposing Views, The Hartford Courant.
I appeared on the The Ben Ferguson Show on WBAP in Dallas, TX Thursday morning (with Guest Host Steve Malzberg).
On 12/28, I appeared on the nationally syndicated Bill Bennett’s Morning: Bill Bennet Radio Show Cox 2012 1228 (.mp3)
On 12/28, I appeared on the Schnitt Show on 12/28. His show is syndicated on about 50 stations nationwide. Guest hosting is my pal Pat Campbell of the The Pat Campbell Show weekday mornings on 1170 KFAQ in Tulsa, OK: Schnitt Show Cox 2012 1228 (.mp3)
Talk of the Sound readers and other bloggers are involved in a sort of a crowd-sourcing on gather home addresses and other contact information for Journal News employees. Based on reader submissions and this site in particular I have created a list of names and information sought. I then mapped what I had (above). I will add what more I get from readers and my own poking around. If you see some public data that matches, send me a link to robertcox@talkofthesound.com and I will add it as quick as I can. Be advised that the Journal News has been in downsizing mode for the past several years. I have to wonder if all these names are current employees but we will treat them as such until we learn otherwise. The map was begun with 11 names.
Help fill in the blanks below.
** = loaded into Google map
UPDATE 12/27 11:30 AM: With the assistance of readers JK, SS, BW, AH and others, the following entries have been updated and added to the map. More are on the way.
Added Info: Janet Hasson, Ed Forbes.
New Entry: Thane Grauel, Elizabeth Ganga, Rick Carpiniello, Liz Anderson (Elizabeth Anderson Steinke), Nicole Futterman. The map now has 16 names.
You will note that one Journal News employee, Ian Thane Grauel, has recently removed his LinkedIn profile and Twitter account. Also, that Cyndee has removed her Facebook page and hidden her tweets. I have received requested to remove the names of former Journal News employees and freelancers from this list and will continue to do so if those people make such a request.
UPDATE 12/27 6:30 PM:
Updated the database for Stacy A. Anderson, Jane Lerner, Steve Lieberman and Herb Pinder but still no home address information so still not on the map. The database and map has been updated for Janet Hasson. New to the map are Robert Brum, Anjanette Rieger Delgado, Randi Weiner, James Kwasnik, Tania Savayan, Phil Reisman. The map now has 22 names.
Liz Anderson removed photos of her children from her Facebook page. She has also changed her Twitter account from @lizsteinke to @lizscribe.
UPDATE 12/28 1:30 PM:
Readers have provided enough information to put Alex Weisler, Hema Easley, Frank A. Becerra, Jr and Jonathon Bandler on the map which now has 26 names. Make that 27 names, I just added Steve Lieberman after reader SM showed I needed to edit Nancy Cutler and Lieberman. I removed Nicole Futterman, Dan Donovan, Jamie O’Grady and Howard Megdal as I am informed they are not full-time employees. I removed Rebecca Baker because she no longer works at the paper. I am finding that the Journal News has a lot of people listed on its web site as working for them who do not seem to actually work for them.
Today, based on popular demand, I made the following FOIL request to the County Clerk’s in Westchester, Rockland, and Putnam counties.
Dear Mr. Clerk,
This is a public records request.
I would like to obtain a copy of the FOIL request made by the Journal News on through which they obtained information on pistol permit, any follow up communications with them regarding that request as well as any documents they obtained under FOIL. If they filed any sort of litigation to obtain additional information (e.g. an Article 78, etc.) I would like to obtain that as well. If this is a matter of forwarding some emails I would consider that an acceptable fill of my request.
Where possible I would like records in electronic format. If possible, I would like the electronic documents converted into standard Microsoft Office format (Word, Excel, etc.). I would like all communications including the delivery of documents to take place via email as much as is possible based on the nature of the available records.. I would like the Records Access Officer to certify that the records are genuine. If the documents only exist in paper form I am willing to pay. If the cost of converting the documents to a standard electronic format or making photos copies exceeds $20.00 I would like prior notification of the estimated cost to comply with this records request.
Sincerely,
Robert Cox
Managing Editor
Talk of the Sound
UPDATE: 12/30 8:30 AM
I was interviewed for this article below but none of my answers were included. The writer, Ms. O’Donnell failed to mention in her email to me or in the article itself that she was, up until recently, a long-time employee of the Journal News.
Reuters: New York newspaper to list more gun permit holders after uproar by Noreen O’Donnell.
While she did not include my explanation as to why I created the map, she did manage to find a journalism professor to call me “childish and petulant”.
Some critics retaliated by posting reporters’ and editors’ addresses and other personal information online.
Howard Good, a journalism professor at the State University of New York at New Paltz, called the critics’ response childish and petulant.
“It doesn’t move the issue of gun control to the level of intelligent public discussion,” he said. “Instead, it transforms what should be a rational public debate on a contentious issue into ugly gutter fighting.”
Draw your own conclusions about Ms. O’Donnell and Professor Good or why she gives him four paragraphs to criticize my actions and I get none to explain my actions.
Here is my Q&A with the reporter that got left on the cutting-room floor.
Q. What was your general reaction to the article and the map.
A. Given the nature of my hyper-local site, I monitor lohud.com 24/7 so I saw the story as it was published to the web. I could not believe what I was seeing — what I perceived to be a transparent attempt to intimidate and ostracize law-abiding citizens by using the Newtown murders as a pre-text to advance an anti-gun agenda and draw traffic to the site.
You worked there so you know about their cost-cutting, outsourcing and pay-wall approach and how desperate things have become at the paper. At best, this map reeked of a stunt to drive traffic at the expense of private citizens who had done nothing that warranted having their privacy violated. In fact, I will not be surprised if there is a class-action lawsuit on privacy grounds.
I can only laugh when the publisher claims the map is “journalism”. The map is more like voyeurism than journalism with the Journal News acting as a digital “Peeping Tom”, peering into the bedrooms of thousands of people just because they can. } The result is a map that is a bizarre form of “gun porn”.
The thought occurred to me to make a contra-Google Map the instant I saw the article. I was hesitant to do so because I am a First Amendment advocate and generally want to be supportive of newspapers and those who work there. I know plenty of people who work at Gannett, the Freedom Forum and the Newseum. I have spoken on panels at many of their events with people like Gene Policinski, Ken Paulson, John Seigenthaler and many others. I had the honor of being part of one of the inaugural exhibits at the Newseum for being the first blogger formerly credentialed as a blogger to cover a federal trial (Scooter Libby).
I knew that creating such a contra-map was a serious, highly provocative move and would likely cause a number of the people referenced above to be very unhappy with me/ I mulled this over for two days. In the meantime my readers had taken it upon themselves to collect information about reporters and editors. They were also linking to Chris Fountain up in Greenwich, CT who is the one who really got the ball rolling.
After being on the fence for a couple of days I decided to organize the efforts of my readers, create a crowd-sourcing project and start to build the contra-map.
Q. Why did you decide to make the reporters’ and editors’ information public on the web.
I trust you are aware that unlike most states, New York (and California) requires that a pistol permit holder to register EVERY handgun they own not just get the license. The initial Journal News FOIL request sought this information. I expect that the Journal News will ultimately prevail and get this information and update their map and make it searchable by weapon type. I would oppose that as I do the current iteration of the map. I did not want to merely respond but discourage further development of their map or at least give them pause.
I wanted a direct and proportionate response in the spirit of “do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. I could not think of anything more direct and proportionate than flipping the script by using public records to map the folks at the Journal News the way they mapped my friends and neighbors. I hope they now realize that in the age of social media and blogs, the people known formerly as the audience, can throw a counterpunch from time to time. My map was my counterpunch.
UPDATE: 12/30 8:45 AM
Per my FOIL request (above) to the Putnam County Clerk, I obtain a copy of the email sent by the Journal News reporter who wrote the map story. From this it is clear the Journal News sought (and continues to seek) not to create just a map of “pistol permit holders” but a map of every gun registered in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties. The have requested information on every type of weapon including “manufacturer, type of weapon, caliber, serial number and model”.
FOIL REQUEST
Worley, Dwight [DWORLEY@lohud.com]
Mr. Bartolotti,
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:26 PM
To: Michael BartolottiUnder the provisions of the New York Freedom of Information Law, Article 6 of the Public Officers Law, I hereby request records or portions thereof pertaining to Putnam County’s pistol permit database.
I am requesting the names, complete addresses, the type of permits issued (carry concealed/possess on
premises/possess carry during employment), and the type of weapons possessed, including the weapon’s
manufacturer, type of weapon, caliber, serial number and model, for all permit holders in your database. Also, please provide a complete record layout and data dictionary for your pistol permits database.I would like all of the records in electronic format, such as a database, spreadsheet, plain text file or other digital format.
I have been instructed instructed by you that state penal law prohibits the disclosure of the types of weapons possessed by permit holders even though such information is collected by the county. If it is determined that that category of information cannot be released please process my request, excluding the protected information, without delay. In your response, please indicate the specific sections of the law that expressly prohibit the disclosure of the protected information.
As you know, all government records and data are presumed public unless there is a specific provision of law barring their release. So while the law expressly says names and addresses of permit holders are to be made public, if the law does not specifically bar the release of the types of permits issued and types of weapons possessed, that information can and should be released. In that case, I would expect that information to be included.
As Robert Freeman, executive director of the New York State Committee on Open Government, has said in
several opinions regarding the disclosure of pistol permit data beyond names and addresses, “the only instance in which records must be withheld would involve the case in which a statute prohibits disclosure. Again, as I interpret §400.00 of the Penal Law, there is nothing in that statute that precludes the custodian of the records at issue from disclosing the records.”If there are any fees for copying the records requested, please inform me before filling the request or please supply the records without informing me if the fees are not in excess of $25.
This request is in relation to a news event. Because of the timely nature of this request, I ask that it be expedited. Also, because of time constraints, I ask that if there are any concerns or questions regarding this request that I be contacted by telephone at 914‐629‐1060 or by email at dworley@lohud.com.
As you know, the Freedom of Information Law requires that an agency respond to a request within five business days of receipt of a request. Therefore, I would appreciate a response as soon as possible and look forward to hearing from you shortly. If for any reason any portion of my request is denied, please inform me of the reasons for the denial in writing and provide the name and address of the person or body to whom an appeal should be directed.
Thank you for your prompt attention.
Dwight R. Worley | Reporter/Data Analyst
1133 Westchester Avenue, Suite N110
White Plains, NY 10604
Voice: 914.629.1060 | Fax: 914.694.5018
E-mail: dworley@lohud.com | Web: lohud.com
Twitter: twitter.com/lohud | Facebook: facebook.com/lohud
Foursquare: foursquare.com/lohud | tumblr: lohud.tumblr.com
Michael C. Bartolotti, First Deputy County Clerk of the Putnam Count Clerk’s Office, responded to Worley on December 21st.
Dwight R. Worley
Journal News Media Group
1133 Westchester Avenue Suite N110
White Plains, NY 10604RE: FOIL request
Dear Mr. Worley:
This office is in receipt of your electronic mail message dated December 17th, 2012 in which you request certain information in electronic format for all pistol permit files maintained by this office.
This request is quite involved and will yield voluminous results. Further, certain information requested may be withheld due to operation of law.
This office is currently working with its IT provider to compile the requested information. Upon a complete compilation of the information suitable for dissemination we will provide you with an estimate of cost as well as instructions on how to complete your request.
I hope that you can work with this office by illustrating patience and if you have any questions please contact this office.
Thank you very much.
Sincerely
Michael C. Bartolotti
For those not familiar with the Freedom of Information Law in New York State, as a general summary, an agency has 5 business days to acknowledge receipt of a request for information and 22 business days after that to deny, fulfill or partially deny/partially fulfill a records request. After the 22 days the agency must provide the records or explain why they need more time and then provide a date certain when the records will be available. As a practical matter, a public records officer can keep a request pending for 27 business days and the requestor has no grounds to appeal or challenge the agency. Agencies can also charge for records based on a scale described in the statute.
In this case, the Clerk got the request on Monday December 17th. The Clerk then waited until the last day of the week, Friday December 21st before acknowledging receipt and has still not provided the records. Adding in three holidays — Christmas, New Year’s Day and Martin Luther King Day — the clerk does not have to deliver the records until January 25th, 2013.
The Clerk’s in Rockland County and Westchester County had the same option and chose to expedite the request. Readers can draw their own conclusions as to why 2 clerks turned over the requested records a month earlier than required and 1 clerk has still not turned over the requested records.
I hope to have a copy of communications between the Journal News and the other two clerks soon.
UPDATE: 12/30 9:22 AM
This is interesting, from the Christian Science Monitor
In an online survey, the Journal News finds overwhelming support – 89-11 percent – for the proposal to keep gun ownership private.
UPDATE: 12/30 9:24 AM
We made Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Journal_News#Controversy
UPDATE: 12/30 9:30 AM
The Westchester County Firearm Owners Association is an organization whose members were most directly targeted by the Journal News. They view the map as an attempt by the paper to “intimidate and bully lawful gun-owning citizens”.
In response, the WCFOA has compiled a list of Journal News Advertisers.
gannett_advertisers_12-28-2012_c.pdf
There has been a great deal of interest from readers in such a list so, with permission, we reprint that list below. The list is based on online resources and volunteers reviewing the print editions of the paper to identify advertisers. According to the WCFOA, the focus was on consumer-oriented advertiser so not every advertised was included in this list.
The WCFOA is encouraging its members and supporters to write a short letter which starts by “quickly outlining the irresponsible Journal News act of publishing the names and addresses of pistol license holders (and a Google Map with directions and family members names)”. The want the letters to state “you will no longer patronize any advertiser who uses Gannett unless and until that advertiser withholds further ads until Gannett takes down the pistol license page and ceases attacking lawful firearm ownership.”
MAJOR AND NATIONAL ADVERTISERS
AARON’S
aarons.com
1-877-607-9999
1-800-950-7368
Garet Hayes
Senior Vice President
Hope-Beckham, Inc.
Office: 404.604.2602
Mobile: 770.403.8720
ghayes@hopebeckham.com
Ace Hardware
acehardware.com
2200 Kensington Court
Oak Brook, IL 60523
U.S.A
1-866-290-5334
1.630.990.6600
ALDI Grocery
aldi.us
Aldi Inc.
1200 N Kirk Rd, Batavia, IL 60510-1443, United States
Phone: (630) 879-8100
Corporate Phone Number: 1-630-879-8100
Babies ‘R Us
babiesrus.com
Babies R Us Corporate Office Headquarters
Toys R Us, Inc.
1 Geoffrey Way
Wayne, NJ 07470-2030 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-973-617-3500
Fax: 973-617-4006
Customer Service Number: 1-888-222-9787
Best Buy
bestbuy.com
Best Buy Corporate Office Headquarters in the USA:
7601 Penn Avenue South
Richfield, MN 55423
Corporate Phone Number: 1-612-291-1000
Corporate Fax Number: 1-612-292-4001
Corporate Email: info@bestbuy.com
the email info@bestbuy.com does not work. Please publish the below instead. Thanks.
Susan Busch, Senior Director, Public Relations (612) 291-6114 or susan.busch@bestbuy.com
Lisa Hawks, Director, Public Relations (612) 291-6150 or lisa.hawks@bestbuy.com
or press@bestbuy.com
Bloomingdales Corporate Office Headquarters
Bloomingdale’s, Inc. a division of Macy’s
1000 3rd Ave.
New York, New York 10022 USA
Website: http://www.bloomingdales.com/
Corporate Phone Number: 1-212-705-2000
Customer Service Number: 1-800-777-0000
CVS Stores’s Corporate Office Headquarters in the USA:
CVS Caremark
One CVS Drive
Woonsocket, RI 02895
Corporate Phone Number: 1-401-765-1500
Corporate Fax Number: 1-401-762-2137
Corporate Email: info@cvs.com
Dick’s Sporting Goods Corporate Office Headquarters
300 Industry Drive RIDC Park West
Pittsburgh, PA 15275 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-724-273-3400
Fax Number: n/a
Customer Service Phone Number: 1-877-846-9997
GNC Corporate Office Headquarters
300 Sixth Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15222 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-412-288-4600
Customer Service Number: 1-877-462-4700
Office Depot Corporate Office Headquarters
6600 North Military Trail
Boca Raton, Florida 33449
Corporate Phone Number: 1-561-438-4800
Corporate Fax Number: 1-561-438-4400
Corporate Email: info@officedepot.com
IKEA America USA
420 Alan Wood Rd.
Conshohocken, PA 19428 USA
Ikea USA Corporate Phone Number: 1-610-834-0180
Customer Service Number USA: 1-800-434-4532
JoAnn Fabrics Corporate Office Headquarters
5555 Darrow Rd.
Hudson, Ohio 44236 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-330-656-2600
Fax Number: 1-330-463-6675
Customer Service Number: 1-888-739-4120
K Mart Corporate Office Headquarters
Sears, Roebuck and Company (kmart.com)
3333 Beverly Road
Hoffman Estates, Illinois 60179 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-847-286-2500
Corporate Fax Number: 1-847-286-8351
Customer Service Number: 1-866-562-7848
Kohl’s Corporate Office Headquarters
N56 W17000 Ridgewood Drive
Menomonee Falls, WI 53051 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-262-703-7000
Fax Number: 1-262-703-6143
Customer Service Number: 1-866-887-8884
Lowes Corporate Office Headquarters in the USA:
1000 Lowe’s Blvd.
Mooresville, NC 28117
Corporate Phone Number: 1-704-758-1000
Corporate Fax Number: 1-336-658-4766
Corporate Email: info@lowes.com
Macy’s
Macys Corporate Office Headquarters HQ:
7 West Seventh Street
Cincinnati, OH 45202
Corporate Phone Number: 1-513-579-7000
Michaels Corporate Office Headquarters
Michaels Stores, Inc.
8000 Bent Branch Dr.
Irving, TX 75063 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-972-409-1300
Fax Number: 1-972-409-1556
Customer Service Number: 1-800-642-4235
Naturalizer Shoes
712 Lexington Ave
New York, NY 10022
(212) 759-3094
Office Depot Corporate Office Headquarters
6600 North Military Trail
Boca Raton, Florida 33449
Corporate Phone Number: 1-561-438-4800
Corporate Fax Number: 1-561-438-4400
Corporate Email: info@officedepot.com
OfficeMax Corporate Office Headquarters
263 Shuman Boulevard
Naperville, IL 60563
Corporate Phone Number: 1-630-438-7800
Petco Corporate Office Headquarters
Petco Animal Supplies Stores, Inc.
9125 Rehco Rd.
San Diego, California 92121 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-858-453-7845
Fax Number: 1-858-784-3489
Customer Service Number: 1-888-824-7257
PetSmart Corporate Office Headquarters
PetSmart, Inc.
19601 North 27th Avenue
Phoenix, AZ 85027 United States
Corporate Phone Number: 1-623-580-6100
Fax: 1-623-395-6517
Customer Service Number: 1-888-839-9638
Proctor & Gamble
Procter and Gamble Corporate Office Headquarters
One Procter & Gamble Plaza
Cincinnati, OH 45202 United States
Corporate Phone Number: 1-513-983-1100
Fax: 1-513-983-4381
Customer Service Number: Product Specific
Email: Online Only
Radio Shack Corporate Office Headquarters
RadioShack Corporation
300 RadioShack Circle, Mail Stop CF3-201
Fort Worth, TX 76102-1964 United States
Corporate Phone Number: 1-817-415-3011
Fax Number: 1-817-415-2647
Customer Service Number: 1-800-843-7422
Sears Corporate Office Headquarters in the USA:
Address: 3333 Beverly Road
Hoffman Estates, Illinois 60179 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-847-286-2500
Corporate Fax Number: 1-847-286-8351
Corporate Email: smsupport@searshc.com
Sleepy’s
sleepys.com
Mattress Giant Corporate Office Headquarters
Mattress Firm Holding Corp.
5815 Gulf Freeway
Houston, TX 77023 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-713-923-1090
Customer Service Number: 1-866-942-3551
Staples Corporate Office Headquarters
Five Hundred Staples Drive
Framingham, MA 01702 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-508-253-5000
Fax Number: 1-508-253-8989
Customer Service Number: 1-800-333-3330
Target Corporate Office Headquarters HQ in the USA:
1000 Nicollet Mall
Minneapolis, MN 55403 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-612-304-6073
Corporate Fax Number: 1-612-761-5555
Corporate Email: Online only at http://www.target.com/
Toys R Us Corporate Office Headquarters
Toys R Us, Inc.
1 Geoffrey Way
Wayne, NJ 07470-2030 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-973-617-3500
Fax: 973-617-4006
Customer Service Number: 1-800-869-7787
Email: Online Only
True Value Corporate Office Headquarters
True Value Company
8600 W. Bryn Mawr Ave.
Chicago, IL 60631-3505 USA
Corporate Phone Number: 1-773-695-5000
Customer Service Number: 1-773-695-5000
Verizon
Verizon Corporate Office Headquarters
140 West Street
New York, NY 10007
Corporate Phone Number: 1-212-395-1000
Corporate Fax Number: 1-212-571-1897
Walmart Corporate Office Headquarters in the USA
702 SW 8th Street
Bentonville, Arkansas 72716-8611
Corporate Phone Number: 1-800-925-6278 or 1-479-273-4000
Corporate Fax Number: 1-479-277-1830
Corporate Email: info@wal-mart.com
Walgreen Company Corporate Office
106 Wilmot Road, MS 1640
Deerfield, IL 60015
1-847-940-2500
Online Inquiries:
1-877-250-5823
Store Inquiries:
1-800-WALGREENS
1-800-925-4733
walgreens.com
LOCAL ADVERTISERS:
Acorn Starlifts
acornstarlifts.com
US Corporate office
Acorn Stairlifts Inc.
7335 Lake Ellenor Drive
Orlando Florida 32809
USA
General Enquiries: 888-212-8995
1-877-281-5259
Acura of Ramsey
www.AcuraOfRamsey.com
65 Route 17 South
Ramsey, NJ
1-201-934-8200
Arroway Chevrolet
www.ArrowayChevy.com
Route 117
Mt. Kisco, NY
1-888-277-6929
Batteries & Bulbs Plus
300 Tarrytown Road
White Plains, NY
1-914-997-9400
Big Dee Volvo
www.BigDeeVolvo.com
262 East Main Street
Elmsford, NY
1-866-395-6386
Bill Kolb Jr. Subaru
www.BKCars.com
Route 30
Orangeburg, NY
1-866-414-0814
Brewster Honda
brewsterhonda.com
899 Route 22
Brewster, NY
1-845-278-4100
Croton Auto Park
Route 9A & 129
Croton-On-Hudson, NY
1-914-271-5100
Curry Honda
curryhonda.com
3845 Crompond Road
Yorktown Heights, NY
1-866-486-9463
Curry Hyundai
www.curryhyundai.com
3040 East Main Street
Cortlandt Manor, NY
1-866-429-7471
Curry Nissan
www.CurryNissan.com
3495 Crompond Road
Yorktown Heights, NY
1-877-876-5324
Curry Subaru
www.CurrySubaru.com
3040 East Main Street
Cortlandt Manor, NY
1-866-489-2664
Curry Toyota
CurryToyota.com
3026 East Main Street
Cortlandt Manor, NY
1-888-886-0695
DCH Paramus Honda
www.DCHParamusHonda.com
120 Route 4 East
Paramus, NJ
1-877-606-1414
DCH Toyota Scion City
dchtoyotacity.com
1305 E. Boston Post Road
Mamaroneck, NY 10543
1-888-460-7112
Empire City Casino at Yonkers Raceway
www.empirecitycasino.com
810 Yonkers Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10704
1-914-968-4200
First Street
www.jitterbugdirect.com
1998 Ruffin Mill Road
Colonial Heights, VA
1-877-665-3312
Honda of New Rochelle
www.HondaOfNewRochelle.com
25 East Main Street
New Rochelle, NY
1-800-639-8294
First Street
jitterbugdirect.com
1998 Ruffin Mill Road
Colonial Heights, VA
1-877-665-3312
Hyundai of White Plains
hyundaiofwhiteplains.com
130 Westchester Avenue
White Plains, NY
1-800-730-7903
Jennifer Convertibles
jenniferconvertibles.com
2373 Central Avenue
Yonkers, NY
1-914-779-0214
Jennifer Convertibles
www.jenniferconvertibles.com
2373 Central Avenue
Yonkers, NY
1-914-779-0214
Jim Harte Nissan
www.JimHarteNissan.com
283 North Bedford Road
Mt. Kisco, NY
1-877-661-4901
KIA of West Nyack
www.KiaOfWestNyack.com
250 Route 303 North
West Nyack, NY
1-845-353-1919
Liberty Hyundai
www.LibertyHyundai.com
305 Route 17 North
Mahwah, NJ
1-201-529-2400
Mt. Kisco Honda
mtkiscohonda.com
Route 117
Bedford Hills, NY
1-914-666-0030
New Country Audi of Greenwich
www.NewCountryAudi.com
181 West Putnam Avenue
Greenwich, NY
1-203-661-1800
New Rochelle Chevrolet
www.newrochellechevyny.com
291 Main Street
New Rochelle, NY
1-800-750-2651
New Rochelle Hyundai
www.HyundaiOfNewRoc.com
125 East Main Street
New Rochelle, NY
1-914-654-8300
New Rochelle Toyota
newrochelletoyota.com
47 Cedar Street
New Rochelle, NY
1-888-498-4843
Nissan City
www.nissancity.com
225 Boston Post Road
Port Chester, NY
1-866-589-2356
P.C. Richard & Son, LLC
pcrichardc.om
150 Price Pkwy. Farmingdale,
New York 11735 USA
1-866-419-4096
Rockland Nissan
www.RocklandNissan.com
608 Route 303 South
Blauvelt, NY
1-888-614-8898
Rye Ford
ryeford.com
1151 Boston Post Road
Rye, NY
1-914-967-6300
Schultz Ford-Lincoln
877shultz.com
80 Route 304
Nanuet, NY
1-845-624-3600
Stickley Audi & Company
stickleyaudi.com
207 W. 25th Street
Manhattan, NY
1-212-337-0700
Tarrytown Honda
tarrytownhonda.com
480 S. Broadway
Tarrytown, NY
1-888-408-0673
Varmax Liquor Pantry
varmax.com
19 Putnam Avenue
Port Chester, NY 10573
1-914-937-4930
Westchester Subaru
www.westchestersubaru.com
258 East Main Street
Elmsford, NY
1-888-747-8929
Westchester Toyota
www.westchestertoyota.com
2167 Central Park Avenue
Yonkers, NY 10710
1-888-560-6662
Sales: 888-224-4595
Fax: 914-779-7623
White Plains Dodge Chrysler Jeep
www.WhitePlainsChrysler.com
70 Westchester Avenue
White Plains, NY
1-800-679-0328
White Plains Buick GMC
www.WhitePlainsBuickGMC.com
358 Central Avenue
White Plains, NY
1-800-799-6795
White Plains Honda
whiteplainshonda.com
344 Central Avenue
White Plains, NY 10606
1-877-553-9292
World Wide BMW
worldwidebmw.com
125 E. Route 59
Spring Valley, NY
1-800-635-2697
UPDATED 12/30 5:45 PM
Stacy A. Anderson and Yaron Weitzman were removed as they no longer work at the Journal News. Nancy Cutler, Elizabeth Ganga, Thane Grauel were on the map and updated. Scott Faubel is not on the map but was updated.
New to the map are Jorge Fitz-Gibbon, Terence Corcoran, Jon Campbell, George Troyano, Brian Tumulty, Greg Shillinglaw, YS——, Shawn Cohen, Jane Lerner, Herb Pinder, Marcela Rojas, Eileen Zaccagnino, Mary Dolan, Theresa Juva-Brown, Laura Incalcaterra, and Colin Gustafson.
There are 92 names on the list. That gets up to 42 names on the map. So we are just short of half at this point although may me understanting things as some of the 92 may no longer work at the Journal News or work as freelancers. We are only interested in full-time employees.
The list is now color-coded. Employees in GREEN are on the map but may be missing some information which is indicated in RED. Employees in ALL RED are not on the map because we do not have home address information.
There have been hundreds of emails with lots of suggestions but there are a few folks that have been working these names very hard over the past couple days and I want to acknowledge them by initials — JK, PT, BM, BG, SM, CB, MR, GA, JD, SK, BW, SS, RH, GB,
UPDATED 12/31 4:45 PM
Removed Robert Marchant, he no longer works at the Journal News
Add to the map are Vincent Mercogliano, Carrie Yale, Heather Salerno, Mauro Ferrotta, Scott Faubel, John Czarnecki, Terence Corcoran, Colin Gustafson, Ned Rauch, Marcela Rojas, Matthew Brown, Gary McGriff, Akiko Matsuda, Linda Lombroso, Betsy Lombardi, Elaine Kirsch, Robert Brum.
That makes it 57 of 91 or 63%.
We have 34 names left to either clear (are not full-time employees) or get on the map. They are Chris Brown, Albert Conte, Ed Cummins, Wilfred David, Mike Dougherty, Ricky Flores, Ernie Garcia, Tessa Garcia, Tim Henderson, Lee Higgins, Brian Howard, Liz Johnson, Chad Jennings, Peter Kramer, Rich Liebson, Cara Matthews, Sean Mayer, Joe McDonald, Caryn McBride, Mike Meaney, Jill Mercadante, Kathy Moore, Mareesa Nicosia, Cathey O’Donnell, James O’Rourke, Leah Rae, Ben Rubin, Khurram Saeed, Erik Shilling, Joe Spector, Gary Stern, Alex Taylor, and Chris Vaughan.
As noted above, names below in GREEN are on the map but may be missing a single item (marked in RED). Names in red are the ones not yet on the map.
UPDATED 1/1 6:30 PM
Liz Johnson, Mike Meaney, Wilfred David, Cara Matthews were added to the map. YS—— was edited because we got an exact address. Chris Brown was removed because he is a freelancer.
That makes it 61 of 90 or 68%.
UPDATED 1/2 2:30 PM
The following were added to the map: Caryn McBride, Mareesa Nicosia, Leah Rae, Erik Shilling, Ed Cummins and Rich Liebson. Ben Rubin was removed because he does not work there anymore.
That gets us to 77 out of 89 or 75%.
We have 12 names left to either clear (are not full-time employees) or get on the map. They are Albert Conte, Mike Dougherty, Ricky Flores, Ernie Garcia, Tessa Garcia, Tim Henderson, Lee Higgins, Brian Howard, Chad Jennings, Peter Kramer, Sean Mayer, Joe McDonald, Jill Mercadante, Kathy Moore, Cathey O’Donnell, James O’Rourke, Khurram Saeed, Joe Spector, Gary Stern, Alex Taylor, and Chris Vaughan.
UPDATED 1/2 6:30 PM
The following were added to the map: Jill Mercadante, Chris Vaughan, Tim Henderson, Tessa Garcia.
Cathey O’Donnell was removed because she does not work there anymore.
Wow! That gets us to 71 of 83 or 86%
We have 12 names left to either clear (are not full-time employees) or get on the map. They are Albert Conte, Mike Dougherty, Ricky Flores, Ernie Garcia, Lee Higgins, Brian Howard, Chad Jennings, Peter Kramer, Sean Mayer, Joe McDonald, Kathy Moore, James O’Rourke, Khurram Saeed, Joe Spector, Gary Stern, and Alex Taylor.
ADDED: Sean Mayer, Joseph Spector, Gary Stern
REMOVED: Joe McDonald (no longer works at Journal News.
That gets us to 74 of 82 or 90%. We have 8 names left.
SMALL FAVOR TO MY TEAM: While I have this crack team of researches hard at work I will take everything you can find on these two individuals James Vincent Bonanno and his son, Vince James Bonanno. You can certainly appreciate that given my willingness to take on causes like this Journal News map I have made more than my share of The Bonannos are currently suing me for defamation in New York State Supreme Court because I accurately reported on their various misdeeds. They both work for the local school district.
This is the father…
James Vincent Bonanno
24 Ronalds Avenue
New Rochelle, NY
Not sure where the son lives…
Vince James Bonanno (“Little Jimmy”)
Any information you can pull on them will be appreciated. Little Jimmy, a heroin addict who is in the Westchester County Methadone Program has at least one prior arrest that I know of, not sure about the father. I believe the father is also involved in various side-businesses.
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Matthew Brown joined The Journal News in March 1994. He covers a variety of assignments as a Visual Journalist for The Journal News and LoHud.com. For the past year, he has been able to bring his cameras into the schools, covering visual stories of interest to the communities in White Plains, Valhalla, Elmsford and Greenburgh School districts. Prior to that, he could be seen on the sidelines covering major and local sporting events or behind the scenes covering local news in the tri-county coverage area of The Journal News. Prior to coming to work for the Journal News, he worked as a Sports Picture Editor for the Providence (R.I.) Journal and as a Boston-based freelance photojournalist for the Associated Press wire service.
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**Shawn Cohen**
Westchester County Reporter
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5800 Arlington Ave, Apt 20V Bronx, NY 10471-1422
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Photo Reprints
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**Terence Corcoran**
Northern Westchester and Putnam County
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Rye, NY 10580
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LoHud Weekend
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15 Grove Street
Pleasantville, NY 10570-2103
914-769-9234
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**Ed Cummins**
News Editor
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Croton, NY 10520-2132
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**Nancy Cutler**
Opinion Editor
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81 Elysian Avenue
Nyack, NY 10960
845-353-4647
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Home Delivery Operations Manager
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**Wilfred David**
Reporter
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32 Undercliff Street Apt 2
Yonkers, NY 10705-1433
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Will covers police news in New Rochelle, Scarsdale, Eastchester, Bronxville, Tuckahoe, Mount Vernon and Yonkers.
**Anjanette Rieger Delgado**
Interactivity Editor
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**Mary Dolan**
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Croton, NY 10520-2807
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**Hema Easley**
Clarkstown Reporter
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Chester, NY 10918
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White Plains News Manager
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White Plains, NY 10605
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D. Scott Faubel is The Journal News/LoHud.com’s assistant local editor for central Westchester. He has been with the organization nearly 30 years, working in many of the communities it covers on the east side of the Hudson River. He grew up in Westchester and Putnam counties and now lives in White Plains.
**Mauro Ferrotta**
Single Copy Manager
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**Elizabeth Ganga**
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Warwick, NY 10990-2707
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**Thane Grauel (Ian Thane Grauel)**
Local Editor Rockland/Digital Editor
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Norwalk CT 06851
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**Colin Gustafson**
Reporter for Yonkers and Mount Vernon
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Brooklyn, NY 11201-6757
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Colin grew up in Washington, D.C., went to college in St. Paul, Minn., and now lives in Queens. Before joining The Journal News, he worked as an education reporter for Greenwich Time, a daily newspaper in Connecticut. Before that, he was a contributor to the business desk at the New York Sun and an assistant managing editor at the weekly Queens Chronicle.
**Seth Harrison**
Photographer
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107 Valleyview Rd
Irvington, NY 10533
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Seth Harrison has been a staff photographer at The Journal News since 1987. In that time, he has covered 9/11, elections in Israel, national political conventions, several World Series, and all facets of local news. Covering national and international events is exciting, however Harrison gains tremendous satisfaction telling the stories close to home. “The mother who has dedicated her life to helping to find a cure for the rare and fatal disease that afflicts her son, the story of troubled children housed in residential treatment centers, or the scores of young Mormon’s who come to this area every year to try to spread their faith, are the types of stories that allow me to step in to the lives of our neighbors and offer a glimpse of lives that, while unfolding right around the corner, are very different from our own.” Harrison has a bachelor’s degree in photojournalism from Rochester Institute of Technology. A lower Westchester resident, he was born in Brooklyn, and grew up in Yonkers and Hastings-on-Hudson. He is married with three daughters.
**Janet Hasson**
Publisher
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**Tim Henderson**
Data Analyst
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Pearl River, NY 10965-2112
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Lee Higgins
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**Laura Incalcaterra**
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78 Regina Road
Airmont, NY 10952
845-356-9215
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Laura Incalcaterra covers the environment, open space and zoning and planning issues for The Journal News. A Boston College graduate, Laura grew up in Rockland, attended East Ramapo schools and has worked for The Journal News since 1993. Laura has written features and covered North Rockland, crime, government and a host of other issues.
**Liz Johnson**
Food Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
4A Ross Avenue #A
Nyack, NY 10960-4309
845-353-3351
Work Phone: 914-694-5075
Work Email: ewjohnson@lohud.com
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**Theresa Juva-Brown**
Transportation Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
21302 75th Avenue Apt #4D
Oakland Gardens, NY 11364-3348
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Chad Jennings
LoHud Yankees Beat Writer
The Journal News/LoHud.com
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**Elaine Kirsch**
Director/Circulation Operations
The Journal News/LoHud.com
22 Marget Ann Lane
Suffern, NY 10901-3313
845-358-0787
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Peter Kramer
Theater
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**James Kwasnik**
Online Director
The Journal News/LoHud.com
Harrison, NY 10528
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**Cynthia R. Lambert**
Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
17 McBride Ave
White Plains, NY 10603
(914) 948-9388
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**Jane Lerner**
Reporter for Health and Hospitals
The Journal News/LoHud.com
1 Tilda Lane
New City, NY 10956
845-634-3512
Work Phone: 914-694-9300
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Jane Lerner covers the health and hospitals beat for The Journal News in Rockland. She has worked for The Journal News since 1991, first in Westchester, then in Rockland. She has a master’s degree from the Graduate School of Journalism at Columbia University, where she completed a concentration in health and science writing. She lives in Rockland with her husband and two children.
**Steve Lieberman**
Police and Courts Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
81 Elysian Avenue
Nyack, NY 10960
845-353-4647
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Steve Lieberman joined The Journal News as an editor in February 1984 and became a reporter during the spring of 1986. He has covered police, courts and legal issues for more than a decade, after reporting on county, town, village and state governments and general issues. He received more than a dozen state awards for writing and reporting. Born and raised in The Bronx, he has lived in Rockland since 1988.
Rich Liebson
Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
2 Greenacres Way
White Plains, NY 10606-3122
914-686-8940
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Rich Liebson grew up on military bases in the U.S. and Germany as the son of an Air Force master sergeant. After serving four years in the U.S. Army he was hired as a part-time reporter in 1983 and promoted to full-time in 1985. He’s had a number of beats over the years including education, municipal government and public safety. He’s also been a columnist and city editor for central Westchester. Rich lives in White Plains.
**Betsy Lombardi**
Universal Desk Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
59 Tamarack Road
Rye Brook, NY 10573-2138
914-937-2389
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**Linda Lombroso**
Features Writer
The Journal News/LoHud.com
237 Broadfield Rd
New Rochelle, NY 10804-2409
914-654-0527
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**Akiko Matsuda**
Reporter for Haverstraw and Stony Point
The Journal News/LoHud.com
4329 Broadway Apt 5B
New York, NY 10033-2404
NEW YORK COUNTY
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Akiko Matsuda has been a reporter with The Journal News since August 2005, covering the communities of North Rockland — Haverstraw town and village, Pomona, West Haverstraw, Stony Point. Before that, she covered local governments in upstate New York and Connecticut. A Japanese native, she was a reporter and news anchor for a TV station in Sapporo, covering various beats, including courts, politics and the environment.
**Cara Matthews**
Statehouse Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
12 Hamilton Avenue Apt A
Norwalk, CT 06854-3510
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**Sean Mayer**
Sports and Operations Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
5 Edward Place
Monroe, NY 10950
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**Caryn McBride**
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**Gary McGriff**
The Journal News/LoHud.com
14 Ball Pond Road
New Fairfield, CT 06812-4920
203-312-0805
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**Mike Meaney**
Morning Breaking News
The Journal News/LoHud.com
118 Frank Ave
Mamaroneck, NY 10543-2808
914-381-4245
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**Vincent Mercogliano**
High School Sports Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
475 Wilmot Road New Rochelle, NY 10804-1019
914-637-9367
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**Jill Mercadante**
Multimedia/Marketing Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
222 Sackett Street #2F
Brooklyn, NY 11231
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Kathy Moore (Kathy Moore O’Connor)
Local Content Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
11 Woodland Drive
Brewster, NY 10509-2523
845-278-0144, 845-279-2666
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Kathy Moore is the local editor for northern Westchester and Putnam counties. She began working at The Journal News in 1985 and covered towns, schools, Mount Vernon City Hall, Putnam County government and general assignment before becoming a bureau chief and then an editor overseeing the northern reaches of our coverage area. She works with a terrific staff in the paper’s Mount Kisco office whose writing and reporting fuels The Journal News, Lohud.com, the Northern Westchester and Yorktown/Cortlandt Express and their corresponding community blogs.
**Barbara L Nackman**
Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
279 Farrington Avenue
Tarrytown, NY 10591
(914) 332-5185
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A municipal reporter for The Journal News since 1997, Barbara Livingston Nackman has covered local governments, events and breaking news from many communities. She began her journalism career by writing for bookselling and library publications. She reported on Putnam County communities for 10 years before getting her latest assignment, keeping track of Briarcliff Manor and Somers.
**Mareesa Nicosia**
Ramapo Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
104 Gordon Ave
Sleepy Hollow, NY 10591-1910
585-402-6535, 607-437-1895
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Cathey O’Donnell
Reporter
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James O’Rourke
Westchester and Rockland County Night Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
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**Herb Pinder**
Opinion Page Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
66 W 89th St Apt# 2R
New York, NY 10024-2045
212-769-1945
Work Phone: 914-694-5031
Work Email: hpinder@lohud.com
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**Leah Rae**
Reporter for Port Chester, Rye Brook and Rye City
The Journal News/LoHud.com
13 N Cottenet St
Irvington, NY 10533-1508
914-591-0319
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Leah Rae covers the Port Chester-Rye Brook beat for The Journal News. She’s written about Westchester’s immigrant population since joining the paper in 1994, and reported from two immigrant “hometowns” in Ecuador and Guatemala. Leah studied at the University of Toronto and worked at her hometown paper, The Buffalo News, before migrating downstate. She writes the Beyond Borders blog at immigration.lohudblogs.com and contributes to the Sound Shore blog at soundshore.lohudblogs.com.
**Swapna Venugopal Ramaswamy**
Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
306 Quaker Rd
Chappaqua, NY 10514
(914) 238-4607
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Swapna Venugopal Ramaswamy, a staff writer for The Journal News/LoHud.com, covers several communities in Westchester County and writes about everything from local politics to schools to development issues. She joined the paper in October 2006 and expanded her byline to include Ramaswamy — reportedly the longest byline ever. Previously, Swapna worked as a municipal reporter for the Home News Tribune in New Jersey and interned at the New York Daily News as a general assignment reporter. She earned a master’s degree in journalism from New York University, where she was associate features editor of NYU’s daily newspaper, The Washington Square News.
**Ned P. Rauch**
Reporter for Harrison and Mt. Vernon
The Journal News/LoHud.com
922 Lorimer Street Apt 2
Brooklyn, NY 11222-3178
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**Phil Reisman**
Columnist
The Journal News/LoHud.com
73 Rossmore Avenue
Bronxville, NY 10708
914-337-6522
Work Phone: 914-694-5008
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**Michael J Risinit**
Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
42 Robinson Lane
Wappingers Falls, NY 12590
845-454-2278
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Mike Risinit covers politics, the environment and other issues touching on northern Westchester. He has been a reporter at The Journal News since 1998.
**Robert F. Rodriguez**
Visual Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
420 Riverside Dr, Apt 7A
New York, NY 10025-7748
212-222-4566
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**Marcela Rojas**
Reporter for Somers, Ossining and Peekskill
The Journal News/LoHud.com
43 Mitchell Place Apt
White Plains, NY 10601-4337
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Khurram Saeed
Reporter
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Khurram Saeed has been reporting for The Journal News since 2000. He writes about transportation issues in Rockland and has a weekly column called Getting There, which appears Wednesdays. Raised in Chestnut Ridge, Saeed previously worked at a newspaper in Washington and at magazines in Canada. Reach him at ksaeed@lohud.com or 845-578-2412.
**Heather Salerno**
Feature Writer
The Journal News/LoHud.com
103 Cambridge Ave
Garden City, NY 11530-4101
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**Tania Savayan**
Photographer
The Journal News/LoHud.com
7562 Kessel Street Forest Hills, NY 11375-6846
718-793-5642
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**Erik Shilling**
Courts Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
157 Newell St Fl 3
Brooklyn, NY 11222-3036
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**Greg Shillinglaw**
Reporter for Greenburgh and Mount Pleasant
Multimedia Journalist at The Journal News
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80 Greenway Drive Irvington, NY 10533-1844
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**Joseph Spector**
Statehouse Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
20 Greenock Road
Delmar, NY 12054-3510
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Digital Editor/Nights
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Gary Stern
Education Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
165 Orchard Street White Plains, NY 10604-1407
914-948-8996
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Alex Taylor
Reporter for Orangetown, Pearl River and Colleges
The Journal News/LoHud.com
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**George Troyano**
Vice President Sales & Marketing
The Journal News/LoHud.com
2 Rams Gate Court
Medford, NJ 08055-9704
609-953-2745
Work Phone: 914-694-5157
Work Email: gtroyano@lohud.com
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**Brian Tumulty**
DC Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
5589 Cedar Break Drive
Centreville, VA 20120-3329
703-830-0926
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**Ken Valenti**
Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
2221 Palmer Ave Apt# 2P
New Rochelle, NY 10801-3064
914-498-9289
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**Chris Vaughan**
Community Web Producer
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**Randi Weiner (Randi W. Gormley)**
Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
843 Mill Plain Road
Fairfield, CT 06824
203-254-3285
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**Alex Weisler**
Reporter for Mount Kisco, New Castle and North Castle
The Journal News/LoHud.com
5 Wheatstone Road
New City, NY 10956-2515
845-639-0868
Work Phone: 914-666-6482
Work Email: aweisler@lohud.com
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**David McKay Wilson**
Columnist
The Journal News/LoHud.com
104 Topland Rd
Mahopac, New York 10541
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**Dwight R Worley**
Education Reporter
The Journal News/LoHud.com
230-6 139th Avenue
Queens, NY 11413
718-527-0832
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Dwight R. Worley is an education/urban affairs reporter covering central Westchester schools for The Journal News, The White Plains Express and LoHud.com. He also serves as a database reporter for the publications, using computer-assisted reporting techniques to develop a wide range of stories about diversity, race, immigration and how changing demographics have impacted the Lower Hudson Valley. He joined The Journal News in 1999 as a business reporter.
**Carrie Yale**
Visuals Director
The Journal News/LoHud.com
10 Meadowbrook Court Apt 1B
Brewster, NY 10509-3616
914-948-6312
Work Phone: 914-694-5092
Work Email: cyale@lohud.com
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**Eileen Zaccagnino**
Online Ad Director
The Journal News/LoHud.com
6 Birch Road
South Salem, NY 10590-2314
914-533-5278
Work Phone: 914-696-8463
Work Email: ezaccagn@lohud.com
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UPDATE 12/31 2:20 PM I am in receipt of all communications between the Journal News and the Westchester County Clerk including the entire list of “pistol permits” (i.e., license holders) for Westchester County. My next project, once I complete the map, is to run all Journal News employees living in Westchester against the list I just got.
UPDATE 1/1 6:30 PM
Let me set to rest the speculation that the Journal News exempted their own employees from their map. YS [removed] is a photographer and editor at the Journal News. He resides in [removed]. He is in the Westchester County list provided to the Journal News and he is a dot in the map so we can at least put to rest any conspiracy theories in this regard.
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Journal News Hypocrisy
Most of the readers of this article are not from the area and may have never heard of the Journal News until this week. Many of speculated on the motives behind their pistol LICENSE map. If you want just a few of very real examples of hypocrisy from the Journal News you can look at the following three exclusive stories than we have run over the past three months that the Journal News did not bother to report at all.
By any measure, this is a major story — a member of the NJCAA National Championship women’s basketball team delivers a savage beating to a teammate. While the victim of the assault is in the hospital she receives a text message from her assailant threatening to kill her, and her mother with a gun she keeps at an apartment on campus. School officials recovered a loaded .9mm Semi-Automatic Carbine. Before the District Attorney could bring charges the player fled the state. The player was kicked off the team, the other player suspended and the coach fired because he knew of the gun and failed to report it to school officials or the police.
The Journal News did not cover this story at all. Monroe College is a major advertiser in Westchester County.
New Rochelle Suspends Three Following Gun to Head Incident on Bee-Line School Bus
Three students leave a school bus an enter a middle school with a gun after terrorizing a 6th grader on the bus by placing her in a headlock, holding the gun to her head and threatening her. The Journal News does not report on this incident.
In this case, a man was in the building for hours, he was found hiding in a closet in a second floor classroom by a teaching assistant. Even then, the building principal waited 45 minutes to call police and then lied about the entire incident to parents. The Journal News did not cover this story.
New Rochelle Board President Says District in “Full Compliance” with School Safety Laws
Four days after the Newtown Shooting, the local school board President and Superintendent make false claims that the district is in full compliance with New York State school safety laws. By statute the district must review and update plans for the district and each school in the district once a year. 10 of 11 schools have not been updated since 2001. The 11th was updated in 2006. The Journal News does not even cover the board meeting let along report this.
UPDATE: 1/2 9:15 AM: I appeared this morning on the Pat Campbell Show in Tulsa, OK to discuss the latest on the Journal News gun owner map: Pat Campbell Show 1-2-13
UPDATE: 1/2 12:10 PM: My FOIL request to the Westchester County Clerk resulted in my receiving the communications between the clerk’s office and Journal News reporter Dwight Worley. It was a jumbled mess of documents which I cut, paste and re-ordered in chronological order so readers can follow the discussion between Deputy Clerk John J. Allen and Worley (link below).
I am requesting the names, complete addresses, the type of permits issued (carry concealed/possess on
premises/possess carry during employment), and the type of weapons possessed, including the weapon’s
manufacturer, type of weapon, caliber, serial number and model, for all permit holders in your database.
Also, please provide a complete record layout and data dictionary for your pistol permits database.
There is a brief sidebar after Worley appeals the partial denial of the paper’s request to County Executive Rob Astorino on December 17th and County Attorney Robert F. Meehan responds for Astorino on December 20th to deny the appeal. The Westchester County Clerk Tim Idoni is a Democrat from New Rochelle (where we operate) and Astorino is a Republican. If you are wondering how divided government works in Westchester read how the Democrats in the County Legislature literally turned out the lights in the chamber when they did not get their way on the 2013 budget.
This stands in stark contrast to the decided lack of cooperation in Putnam County, north of Westchester.
New York County denies request for names of gun permit holders
Authorities in a suburban county north of New York City said on Tuesday they will refuse to release names of local gun permit holders to a newspaper that has been publishing the identities of thousands of license-holding residents.
Putnam County Clerk Dennis Sant said he would defy a request for information about pistol permit holders from the White Plains, New York-based Journal News, which has come under criticism for publishing thousands of such identities already.
UPDATE 1/2 2:50 PM: I have been advised that the phone listing for Robert Brum in Pomona is incorrect. Please disregard 845-354-0243. That is the number for an older woman who was assigned that number after Robert Brum moved.
UPDATE 1/3 8:30 AM: Newspaper threatened with ‘suspicious white powder’ after publishing gun owners’ names
The suspicious package turned out to be a non-event but I was surprised to see this…
The article mentions Christopher Fountain who put up a lot of detail about the publisher, Janet Hasson and a few other Journal News employees. I am not sure how many, maybe 5 or 6 names. New York State Rifle and Pistol Association President Tom King is quoted saying “I’m sure that the blogger will take down the list as soon as the gun names come down.”
Meanwhile, we have now crowd-sourced 73 of 82 (89%) Journal News employees and mapped each one. We are in the process of clearing the list and I expect we will be at 100% shortly.
I would tell Mr. King a thing or three: (1) the Journal News intends to EXPAND their map to include Putnam County not take it down; (2) the Journal News was never just seeking names and addresses — their Freedom of Information Request is for “names, complete addresses, the type of permits issued (carry concealed/possess on premises/possess carry during employment), and the type of weapons possessed, including the weapon’s manufacturer, type of weapon, caliber, serial number and model, for all permit holders in your database; (3) (1) I have no intention of taking down my list or map regardless of what the Journal News does or what he says.
UPDATE 1/3 1:15 PM: If my actions are going to be disapproved of by anyone I would prefer that it be Jack Shafer: Let’s not go crazy over publishing gun lists
Undeterred by the fact that the handgun data was, by state law, a matter of the public record, aggrieved gun owners retaliated. A crowdsourced map of the home addresses of Journal News employees — including their home and work phone numbers when found — went up. The site also listed the names and addresses of the paper’s local and national advertisers, suggesting Journal News readers write letters threatening to boycott their goods and services unless the Journal News took its map down. The New York State & Pistol Association urged a boycott of all Gannett enterprises, asserting that the map had “put in harm’s way tens of thousands of lawful license holders.” [read entire article]
I met Jack in 2004 at a conference at Harvard. He wrote the PressBox column for Slate/Washington Post for years and I have emailed him from time to time. Between Jack Shafer and Jim Romensko you get about all you need in terms of media criticism. Jim was, for many years at Poynter. Jack writes today “Exactly how publishing public-record data constitutes privacy invasion is a topic worthy of a Poynter Institute seminar.” Ironically, I was part of a Poynter conference on Online Journalism Ethics. I am pretty sure my map would have flunked the ethics test in that room back in 2006. The question then might be if my map flunks then what about the Journal News map? Having been part of this discussion in the past, I can tell you that some of the opinion would be driven by the idea that journalists are like members of a holy order on a divine mission. Not everyone at Poynter would take the side of the Journal News but I suspect they would also be against my map.
I can tell you one other thing — the melodrama that has ensued with the armed guards and the envelopes of talcum powder is the sort of thing that validates the self-image of journalists that what they do is important (and thus justifies the low wages they are paid).
UPDATE: 1/9 9:00 AM – I was away this weekend and so not entirely top of this story. I was in Miami for the BCS Championship Game to see my Irish get stomped by Alabama :-(. I am back in New York.
On my way to the airport, I received an email from WPIX 11’s Erica Pitzi requesting an interview. Many of the questions were to the effect of whether I felt I was to blame for people who were making death threats to Journal News employees or whether I would take my map down after a New York Times article reported on threats against Journal News employees. (My answer? “No”). Having viewed what aired, the piece struck me as fairer than I expected.
WPIX ARTICLE/VIDEO: Death threats, reporters’ families targeted over controversial gun-owner map
“I don’t think my map is particularly fair to the Journal News employees, many of them have nothing to do with the story, but that’s in the same spirit of the Journal News map which is equally unfair,” Cox told PIX 11 News over the phone from Florida.
In The New York Times article, Journal News Publisher Janet Hasson seeks to shift the issue away from Newtown, away from their map of gun owners, away from the entire issue of gun control and convert the issue into a First Amendment issue.
“As journalists, we are prepared for criticism,” Hasson told The Times. “But in the U.S., journalists should not be threatened.”
Actually, in the U.S., no one should be threatened. In fact, there are laws against threatening people with bodily harm and the apply to everyone, not just journalists. As I told WPIX, an appropriate response is to boycott or picket or otherwise express disapproval. Physically threatening someone is never the right thing to do.
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DAM
UPDATE: The Journal News has removed their gun map. Before you ask. “No, we are not taking down our map”.
Here is the official statement from Janet Hasson:
With the passage this week of the NYSAFE gun law, which allows permit holders to request their names and addresses be removed from the public record, we decided to remove the gun permit data from lohud.com at 5 pm today.
While the new law does not require us to remove the data, we believe that doing so complies with its spirit. For the past four weeks, there has been vigorous debate over our publication of the permit data, which has been viewed nearly 1.2 million times by readers. One of our core missions as a newspaper is to empower our readers with as much information as possible on the critical issues they face, and guns have certainly become a top issue since the massacre in nearby Newtown, Conn. Sharing as much public information as possible provides our readers with the ability to contribute to the discussion, in any way they wish, on how to make their communities safer.
We remain committed to our mission of providing the critical public service of championing free speech and open records.
Self-serving claptrap from a woman who thought she could pick a fight at a time and place of her choosing, declare the rules for the fight and call the fight when she had enough.
Sorry, Janet. It doesn’t work that way. Our map of your employees stays.
UPDATE: Just taped a radio interview with Gary Baumgarten of 1010 WINS-NY. Let me know if you hear it air. Teaser: he asked me if this was a victory, my answer “yes!”
WINS 1010 has published a story with the audio clip here.
UPDATE 1/21: My Washington Examiner Op-Ed is now up: Why I will not be taking down my map of Journal News employees
UPDATE 1/23: I was on the Pat Campbell Show this morning, live on KFAQ 1170 Tulsa.
Listen here.
I also joined Pat, filling in, on the Schnitt Show this afternoon.
Listen here.
Hey Bob, have you seen this?
http://www.paladium.net/usa-farnewyorkstate0000PistolPermit2010Jun_01.php
Any chance of getting the home addresses of whatever scum is behind this?
Mag. MYTH, Video destroys myth about “large” capacity magazines!
New video destroys myth about large capacity magazines. February 27, 2013, By: Dave Workman
A newly-produced video, funded by ArmaLite and supervised by Boone County, Ind. Sheriff Ken Campbell, demolishes the myth surrounding so-called “high capacity magazines” that banning these devices will prevent the rare mass shooting events that currently fuel the gun prohibition movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Upjn5DR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The video, obtained by the Citizens Committee for the Right to keep and Bear Arms in Bellevue, is now spreading across the Internet. In a series of shooting exercises involving an experienced male shooter and novice female, Sheriff Campbell demonstrates that shooters using smaller capacity magazines can fire just as fast, and in some cases even faster despite having to reload.
Sheriff Campbell told Examiner in an exclusive interview that the video demonstration was filmed in early February at the American Institute of Marksmanship near Cave City, Ky. Because of his background as an instructor and rangemaster at the famous Gunsite Academy, Sheriff Campbell was recruited to provide a no-spin, matter-of-fact explanation of what is in the video, which is now available on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Upjn5DR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
FULL STORY:
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-video-destroys-myth-about-large-capacity-magazines?CID=examiner_alerts_related_articles
My Thoughts: ASK YOUR LOCAL “police” TO PROVE OTHERWISE and REFUTE THIS EVIDENCE!
N. Rochelle, OUR RIGHTS, AND YOU! NO COMPROMISE! NRA
It’s time for ALL OF US to send Barack Obama and every elitist gun-ban politician in Washington a clear message…
They don’t rule us. They work for us!
Our rights don’t come from them. Our Second Amendment freedom is GUARANTEED by the U.S. Constitution and NON-NEGOTIABLE!
If we want to save our freedom NOW then we have to spread this message to every corner of America! So please, watch this video.
Video:
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/donate.asp?CampaignID=weareamerica
And after you do, be sure to email it to friends…post it on Facebook…link to it in blogs and forums. Wherever and whenever you can help spread the word, please do it today.
But we need to do more. MUCH MORE.
So in addition to sharing this video with friends, I hope you’ll help take our campaign to the next level.
It’s absolutely critical that We answer Barack Obama and his elitist allies, word-for-word, every time they try to belittle our freedoms and shame us into silence.
If you can help further than this, please do so by clicking here now.
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/donate.asp?CampaignID=weareamerica
Help us with critical radio and television air time we need to take Obama head-on and save our freedom.
More than ever before, we all need to pull together…each and every one of us.
Thank you for your courage to stand with me and NRA. Together, WE WILL WIN.
Wayne
Wayne LaPierre
Executive Vice President
http://www.NRA.org
P.S. Barack Obama and the elite media are talking about Taking OUR RIGHTS away on a daily basis now. Anti-gun billionaires like Michael Bloomberg and George Soros are spending millions to blanket the airwaves with lies about law-abiding gun owners like you!
Video:
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/donate.asp?CampaignID=weareamerica
MORE VIDEOS:
http://www.nrastandandfight.com/video/we-are-america?utm_source=donation&utm_medium=form&utm_campaign=Trouble%2BViewing%2BVideo
ATF Flag To Fly Over Your Childs Burned Corpse?, WACO! 93!
1993 February 28 Waco 20 Years Ago
Posted on 2013 February 28
It was 20 years ago today, our government executed a search warrant near Waco, Texas. Fifty days later, after a continuing siege on the religious zealots, the ATF would murder seventy-six people, including children.
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCfzLFIT5QM&feature=player_embedded
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRgwf81XIVg&feature=player_embedded#!
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh1bXqjELrQ&feature=player_embedded
Published on Nov 2, 2012
Waco: A New Revelation is the film that triggered a new Congressional investigation of the Waco tragedy, and caused the Justice Department and the FBI to reverse their long-held positions on Waco. It has generated a firestorm of events unprecedented in the history of documentary film making.
After six years of painstaking investigation, the complete story of the tragedy in Texas is finally coming to light. This compelling feature-length documentary presents new revelations about the events that led up to the deaths of 79 men, women and children at Mount Carmel on April 19, 1993.
In the spring of 1998, under the Freedom of Information Act, investigators from MGA Studio’s film division became the first private citizens to gain access to the Waco investigation evidence lockers. What they found was shocking. Upon examination, the evidence gathered under the supervision of federal officials appeared to contradict the FBI’s congressional testimony, raising serious and disturbing questions about events surrounding the siege at Mt. Carmel and the deaths of the Davidians.
Gene CullenSince 1993, former members of the FBI, former Special Forces and CIA operatives have come forward with new evidence to suggest that the FBI’s claim is inaccurate.
Rick Van Vleet & Stephen M. Novak
STORY:
http://aftermathgunclub.com/?p=1907
Most Damming, Proof DELTA Was Involved & Shooting! Video 3
MOST DAMMING Video 3, DELTA Forces Used against Civilians!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh1bXqjELrQ&feature=player_embedded
In the spring of 1998, under the Freedom of Information Act, investigators from MGA Studio’s film division became the first private citizens to gain access to the Waco investigation evidence lockers. What they found was shocking. Upon examination, the evidence gathered under the supervision of federal officials appeared to contradict the FBI’s congressional testimony, raising serious and disturbing questions about events surrounding the siege at Mt. Carmel and the deaths of the Davidians.
Gene Cullen Since 1993, former members of the FBI, former Special Forces and CIA operatives have come forward with new evidence to suggest that the FBI’s claim is inaccurate.
Rick Van Vleet & Stephen M. Novak
making waves
Can this site return to New Rochelle items of interest?….your posts are getting boring
Your Still Reading!
Apparently there still very interesting to you!?
Bad grammar
Poor grammer in your response…these news items are really out of place here
Bridget
But I’ve still got lots of goodies to post. Especially info about Gracia Martore and family. ;P wink wink
Been a little busy. Got another issue that has my attention over the last day or two. The mother of a homeschooled 7-year old who has been charged with “Terroristic Threats”, jailed and she and her husband had 2 firearms confiscated by the police after reading the Constitution at a Tax Dispute Assmebly. After telling the lady to leave the assembly building, the Bully Appraiser that was hired by the New Jersey Tax Assessor office called police and claimed she threatened to come back with a gun.
Robert,
You might consider setting up another section for people to post about this. If you haven’t heard about it you might want to look it up. It’s making the rounds on the internet. For now I’ll just post information about this little bully man-thug and the company he works for. The company’s “Staff Page” is now almost completely unaccessible but…. TOO LATE! HAHAHAHA!!! I already gots the goods and disappeared like a ninja in da’ night. 😉
Love ya’ Bridget,
Themis
Themis
Extremis…This site is supposed to be for New Rochelle news of interest…your recent post doesn’t fulfill that need…Have a good night
BATFE THUGS, They are a gang of jackbooted government thugs!
NRA: ‘The BATFE is a gang of jackbooted government thugs’ ATF, February 4, 2013, By: Richard Dionne,
Recent years have seen several abuses by the agency. In Arlington, Va., an innocent grandfather was shot and killed by agents who raided the wrong home. http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/07/01/4072588/arlington-family-files-wrongful.html The murdered homeowner was unarmed and no weapons were discovered in the residence. In Cornelius, Ore., ATF agents seized a shop owner’s shipment of airsoft rifles, claiming the popular plastic toys could be converted to fully automatic firearms. http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/ATF-seizes-30-toy-guns-infuriating-local-business/vUVs2QUCAUuZWeRrqgIQaA.cspx
Feb. 1, 2013,
Most recently, Congress began another investigation of the agency following reports of an expensive and horribly mismanaged Milwaukee sting operation in which the agency sold illegal weapons to criminals. At least two of these firearms are still unaccounted for. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/01/lawmakers-call-for-probe-into-botched-atf-sting-in-milwaukee/ “angry residents saying that ATF officials reintroduced crime into their neighborhood. The operation comes on the heels of the botched Operation Fast and Furious anti-gun trafficking program.”
“The Journal Sentinel story reads more like an accounting of the Keystone Cops instead of a federal law enforcement agency,” Grassley, ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in a statement”
“The owner of the property where ATF set up shop, asked the ATF to pay $15,000 in damages, The agency said no. An attorney for ATF threatened the owner to slap him with harassment charges if he continued to ask for reimbursement.”
“If these reports are accurate, your ability to provide this leadership is in serious doubt” the letter from the congressional members to the acting head of the ATF said.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/01/lawmakers-call-for-probe-into-botched-atf-sting-in-milwaukee/#ixzz2MKKpVlmv
Law abiding citizens, especially gun owners, have just cause for alarm when regarding this agency. The ATF has a history of heavy handed and unjust enforcement of law against innocent people. Agents appear to be poorly trained, improperly supervised, and often unlawfully aggressive in the execution of their duties. Unless they are reigned in, they will continue to earn the label of Jackbooted Government Thugs
FULL STORY:
http://www.examiner.com/article/nra-the-batfe-is-a-gang-of-jackbooted-government-thugs
Gov. Coverup Conspiracy in ICE AGENTS Zapata, & Avila DEATHS!
Zapata lawsuit charges government conspiracy and cover-up!
A comprehensive lawsuit charging government conspiracy and cover-up was filed Tuesday in the United States District Court Southern District of Texas Brownsville Division by the parents of murdered Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent Jamie Zapata and Special Agent Victor Avila, Jr., against the government!
“Collectively, the United States government along with Defendants [is] directly responsible for the decisions made with regards to gunrunning activities,” the complaint charges, citing individual officials including former Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Acting Director Kenneth Melson, former Phoenix Field Division Special Agent in Charge William Newell, and former Phoenix Groups VII Supervisor David Voth, among others.
The complaint charges the United States government breached its duties “by failing to abide by policies regarding arms export regulations; safe travel; proper oversight of employees; issuing defective vehicles; gunwalking; failing to disclose known dangers involving gunwalking; and Defendant’s continued violations.
“Defendant’s violation of these statutes and federal firearm laws and regulations constitute negligence per se,” “Having knowledge of the dangers posed by the violation of the statutes, proceeded with the violation of public safety statutes and federal laws and regulations in conscious disregard for the lives and safety of their agents, including Agents Zapata and Avila.
“Defendant placed weapons in the hands of a dangerous criminal organization and failed to warn,. placing Agents Zapata and Avila in harm’s way. Defendant’s conduct contributed to, increased, and changed the risk which would have otherwise not existed,” the complaint alleges. “The conduct was so extreme as to exceed all bounds of that usually tolerated in a civilized community. Furthermore, the United States has conducted an ongoing cover-up to deprive Avila and the Zapata family of the answers they rightfully deserve.”
Included in the list of answers the plaintiffs are seeking is the key question that has so far evaded investigators in determining a definitive answer for: “Who authorized the gunwalking? Where is/are he/she/they now?
http://www.examiner.com/article/zapata-lawsuit-charges-government-conspiracy-and-cover-up
10K 2 Albany: Protest Against Cuomo’s “ROTTEN” Bill!
VIDEO FROM Capitol:
http://www.wbir.com/video/2195830868001/Thousands-Attend-Gun-Rally-in-Albany–Midday-Report
100 Busses join mass rally against Cuomo’s ‘rotten bill’!
-10,000 Plus+ to show up in Albany to voice their opposition to the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act. Busloads of Albany-bound WNYers take aim against gun law!
-Busloads join mass rally against Cuomo’s ‘rotten bill’
***20 buses Full, which hold up to about 56 people each, head to the Albany rally from Erie County alone.
*** 6 Busses+ from Erie County Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs, (The group had initially planned to charter one bus.“then two, then 3 Then 4, we had another meeting, and went and said: Let’s go with five and put six on standby,” That sixth bus was full by Wednesday morning!)Davenport said.
***1 full bus at least from Second Amendment Coalition of WNY!
***5 or More from the Shooters Committee on Political Education, or SCOPE. Said the Buffalo-based group.
***Erie and Niagara counties are among 26 in the state that have passed resolutions calling for the repeal of the SAFE Act.
THIS Rally, is “SIMPLY THE BEGINNING!”
http://www.wbir.com/video/2195830868001/Thousands-Attend-Gun-Rally-in-Albany–Midday-Report
“The SAFE Act has awoken the sleeping giant, is what it’s done,” King said. “I have never seen the people of New York as incensed as they are over this issue.”
STORY:
http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Gun-advocates-protest-at-state-Capitol-4208000.php
Story:
http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130227/CITYANDREGION/130229311/1002
DC Devil, “If I Were The Devil” Paul Harvey, 1965-TODAY!
“Paul Harvey loved strong opinions! Shocking to some, Articulating his love of God and Jesus Christ, embracing the American miracle and touting our nation’s exceptionalism,
Perhaps his most notable soliloquy was “If I Were the Devil,” broadcast for the first time April 3, 1965.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGVCO6CByQ
After citing a litany of problems that threaten the nation’s future, Harvey concluded that “if I were the devil, I’d just keep right on doing what he’s doing.”
See “If I Were the Devil”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaGVCO6CByQ
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/paul-harveys-legendary-voice-lives-on/#AtcXTRF62EgWOPKD.99
Racist Gun Laws, Nat. Press Club in D.C., Project 21 Mr. Swimp
National Press Club in Washington, D.C., Project 21 member Stacy Swimp
Published on Feb 22, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ai3A6YEj9Ek#!
At the 2/22/13 “Black Leaders Speak Out on Gun Control” press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., Project 21 member Stacy Swimp discusses the racist underpinnings of early gun controls laws that were enforced in the Reconstruction-era American south. Stacy notes “there was a correlation, a direct relation, between gun control and black people control.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ai3A6YEj9Ek#!
Stacy also discussed how modern gun control laws are helpful to criminals. Admitting he was not always considered an upstanding citizen, he said that criminals prefer homes they know are unprotected. He said: “If you think for one minute that gun control is gonna do anything about reducing crime, what you’ve done — you’ve just played into the hands of criminals.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ai3A6YEj9Ek#!
Obama Fake: Obama using Fake Twitter Accounts 2 control guns!
Obama backers using fake Twitter accounts in gun-control blitz
Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/25/rep-stockman-obama-machine-used-fake-twitter-accounts-to-send-gun-control/#ixzz2M1eyjLaM
Judge BLASTS Chicago’ Corrupt Chief of Police & Godfather Mayor!
Judge Jeanine Calls Out Garry McCarthy Chicago Superintendent of Police in Opening Statement.
Judge Jeanine Pirro delivers a powerful message to Chicago’s Superintendent of Police, Garry McCarthy, after he’s gone on record stating that legal gun owners are corrupt and endanger public safety, as well as federal gun laws are ‘racist’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuXDYb8tcRg&feature=player_embedded#!
Sheriff Clarke Chicago Chief & Registration = Gun Confiscation!
Sheriff Warns of Second American Revolution over Gun Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su1S29FO_5w&feature=player_embedded#!
Published on Feb 24, 2013
Milwaukee County Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. warns of a second American Revolution if cops have to enforce extreme gun control measures
Beretta Move: Beretta/ Benelli, Stoeger Relocate: CHECKMATE!
Now Beretta is weighing whether the rifle line, and perhaps the company itself, should stay in a place increasingly hostile toward its products. Its iconic 9mm pistol — carried by every U.S. soldier and scores of police departments — would also be banned with its high capacity, 13-bullet magazine.
PARTIAL STATEMENT:
TESTIMONY of BERETTA U.S.A. CORP.
REGARDING SENATE BILL 281, “To Members of the Committee: My name is Jeff Reh and I am a member of the Board of Directors for Beretta U.S.A. Corp., I am also Corporate Secretary for Benelli U.S.A. and President of Stoeger Industries, Inc., both also located in Accokeek, with additional warehouse/ distribution in Pocomoke City, Maryland.
As part of the Beretta global group of companies, Each of these 3 companies imports and sells firearms and in the case of Beretta U.S.A., firearms manufactured at our factory in Accokeek.”
“We are confronted with a state government that wants to ban our products at a time, by the way, when numerous other state governments are courting our investment. It is worth noting that these other states also do not try to blame a product for human misconduct.” “Ironically, SB 281 does all this by seeking to ban rifles that are not typically involved in crime. In 2012, for example, out of 1,400 criminal assaults involving firearms in New York City, Police Commissioner Kelly said that only 3 involved semi-automatic rifles of the type that would be banned under SB 281. Nationally,
the homicide rate has dropped 50 percent in the last 20 years during a time when more people own all types of firearms and when semi-automatic rifles sales have particularly increased. When you compare firearm homicide rates to the total
number of firearms in circulation, the percentage is 3 one-thousandth of one percent. From a constitutional point of view, we see SB 281 as tantamount to a legislative effort to ban certain books.”
“In conclusion, Beretta U.S.A., Benelli U.S.A., Stoeger Industries and our approximately 400 employees strongly recommend a NO vote on Senate Bill 281.
FULL BERETTA STATEMENT:
http://blog.berettausa.com/Portals/194963/docs/jeff-reh-testimony.pdf
“Why expand in a place where the people who built the gun couldn’t buy it?” said Jeffrey Reh, general counsel for Beretta.
Concern that the company will leave, and take its 300 jobs with it, is palpable among state lawmakers who worry it could be collateral damage from Gov. Martin O’Malley’s proposed gun-control bill.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/berettas-future-in-maryland-tied-to-states-gun-control-debate/2013/02/23/bcc56c62-7776-11e2-95e4-6148e45d7adb_story.html?hpid=z3
Blacks Jews, Why R they Anti-Gun!? Miss Death camps &Slavery?
Do Blacks and Jews miss Being controlled by Racism, and BEING SLAVES under Government Control?
Do Jews and Blacks want there Rights taken away Again, and be considered LESS THAN HUMAN!?
WATCH VIDEOS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egl8l03qfN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDFTzSz3qNw
-DO they Miss the Glory of the past where being a Fifth Class Citizen was ACCEPTABLE?
-Do they Miss Having NO Voting RIGHTS, and want a Segregated Community as in “The good old Days”?
-Do Black people want “Whites Only” Government condoned SIGNS out again!?
PICTURES:
https://www.google.com/search?q=whites+only+signs&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=d6krUfWQF4rKqQHzhoD4Cw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=765
-Don’t you remember lynchings when the Government looked the other way?!
PICTURES:
https://www.google.com/search?q=LYNCHINGS+BY+GOVERNMENT&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7qwrUYrlEur62QXdwoGwDw&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=765#hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=lynchings+in+america&oq=LYNCHINGS&gs_l=img.1.2.0l3j0i5l3j0i24l4.126.9509.6.16279.17.2.15.0.0.0.83.158.2.2.0.ernk_timediscounta..0.0…1.1.4.img.kJvJHJ2Key0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42768644,d.b2I&fp=5c8365722811f271&biw=1600&bih=765
-Do Jewish people possibly Miss the “NO JEWS ALLOWED” Signs?
PICTURES:
https://www.google.com/search?q=No+Jews+signs&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=x6krUa6IOcSDqgHtx4GwDQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1600&bih=765#hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=no+jews+allowed+sign&oq=No+Jews+&gs_l=img.1.1.0l4j0i24l6.88384.89043.0.92590.5.5.0.0.0.0.181.420.4j1.5.0.ernk_timediscounta..0.0…1.1.4.img.N9ZaVE4UwDc&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.42768644,d.aWM&fp=b67c912a47892205&biw=1600&bih=765
– Don’t they remember Government condoned “NIGHT OF BROKEN GLASS”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht
PICTURES:
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+night+of+broken+glass&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=fflb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=oKsrUY-rHs7s2AX_zYFo&sqi=2&ved=0CEMQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=765
-Do these two Races miss being told what to do even though it is Demeaning and against human nature to the very foundations of humanity!
-Do they Miss The LYNCHINGS and JOYS of Being BEATEN and STARVED in Concentration Camps with NO RIGHTS!?
-Don’t you Remember People Being BURNED out of their houses, so the Government could take the land!?
-Don’t you Remember being Spat on Just because of the Color of your skin!?
-What about being forced to wear a “mark” on your clothes?!
-Do you wish again for it to be against the law to own property, and having your businesses and houses taken away because your RIGHTS were NOT BEING UPHELD AND ENFORCED?
-DON”T YOU REMEMBER the POLICE ABUSING their AUTHORITY, With the “LAW” looking the other-way as your RIGHTS WERE Denied and TAKEN FROM YOU, because of your Race!?
-Don’t you remember CHICAGO, NEW YORK, AND LA POLICE ABUSING THEIR AUTHORITY!?!
***Why was this?., Because YOU COULD NOT and Did Not DEFEND YOURSELVES!
-Why did this happen,.. Because you could no longer FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS!
BECAUSE THOSE GOVERNMENTS Did NOT CARE ABOUT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS RIGHTS!
THEY WANT TO CONTROL WHAT YOU EAT (BLOOMBERG, NY)
THEY WANT TO CONTROL HOW YOU LIVE (CABRINI GREEN Projects, CHICAGO)
TO NOT be able to DEFEND YOURSELF, (KOREAN BUSINESSES, LA)
THEY WANT TO DENY YOUR RIGHT TO PROTEST PEACEFULLY
(LA, CHICAGO, New York,)
This is “NOT COMMON SENSE”! KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, LIBERTYS, and HISTORY!
-WE ARE ALL DOOMED to REPEAT THIS if you don’t Stand UP FOR OUR RIGHTS!!!
WAKE UP! LOOK IT UP!
CALL YOUR LEGISLATORS and SAY NO to the HYPOCRISY!
STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR YOUR HERITAGE BEFORE YOUR RIGHTS ARE ALL TAKEN AWAY AGAIN!
YOU HAVE RIGHTS EXERCISE THEM!
TELL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES YOU WILL FIGHT in the COURTS, BY VOTES and in anyway posable IF OUR RIGHTS ARE TAKEN AWAY AGAIN!
These are not privileges,
They ARE OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, BY NATURAL LAW, THE BILL OF RIGHTS, and THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES!!!
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO PROTECT OUR FAMILIES, HOMES, BUSINESSES and OUR PERSONS ANYWHERE we are IN THESE UNITED STATES, by any legal means!
When the Legal RIGHT to BEAR ARMS is TAKEN FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, the only ones that will have the guns are the Criminals who don’t follow laws, The Government, and Police!
“When the Government Fears the People, We have a REPUBLIC, When the People fear the Government we have Tyranny!”
“A GOVERNMENT that is Big Enough to Give you everything, Is Also a GOVERNMENT that is BIG Enough to TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY!”
“WHEN SECONDS COUNT, POLICE ARE MINUETS AWAY!”
“YOU ARE THE FIRST RESPONDER!”
-Do you Not use a fire extinguisher if a fire starts in your Kitchen to protect your family until a professional arrives?
-If a child is drowning, do we Not use a life guard until professionals arrive?
-When a car, crosses into your lane Head On, Do you NOT use Your brakes to minimize the Damage from the accident before professionals arrive?
-Do you NOT Require your kids to wear a seat belt to protect them should an accident happen?
-Do you leave your car unlocked when you go inside the mall?
-Do you not lock your doors at night to Prevent criminals from walking into your house?
-If you are being assaulted with no one around don’t you want a better way to protect yourself than a whistle?
“WHEN SECONDS COUNT, POLICE ARE MINUETS AWAY!”
YOU ARE THE FIRST RESPONDER!
IF YOUR 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS are Taken Away, YOU WILL HAVE NO RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF! And
after This RIGHT is Taken from YOU,..
-Who will stand up for you as your house and Business are taken from YOU!?
-Who will Stand up for you as your being beaten and Robbed by Criminals that Don’t Follow Laws!?
-If YOU do Not Stand Up for others RIGHTS, Who will stand UP for YOUR RIGHTS as they are being taken away!?
Why are so called BLACK Leaders Anti-GUN!?
Why are so called Jewish Leaders Anti-Gun!?
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egl8l03qfN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDFTzSz3qNw
RESISTANCE, DAY OF RESISTANCE RALLY, Feb. 23 2013
Where a rally is being held in your area:
http://www.dayofresistance.com/rally/
http://www.infowars.com/national-day-of-resistance-rally-planned-for-saturday-feb-23-223/
On January 16, 2013, President Barack Obama issued 23 executive actions against your 2nd amendment Constitutional right to bear arms. He did this without the consent of Congress which in itself, violates the foundation of the Constitution and the co-equal branches of government.
http://www.infowars.com/national-day-of-resistance-rally-planned-for-saturday-feb-23-223/
In response to these unconstitutional actions by the President, on .223, February 23, 2013 the American people will stand together in defiance to protect the right that protects ALL of our rights, the 2nd Amendment! They will organize locally so that they may band together neighbor to neighbor and reassert their community’s right to determine their own destiny!
Go to your local gathering/ get together and support our RIGHTS!!!
http://www.infowars.com/national-day-of-resistance-rally-planned-for-saturday-feb-23-223/
F&F Obama Knew All Along About FAST and Furious, Holder involved
Videos below:
Obama Knew All Along about FAST and FURIOUS!
Friday, 22 June 2012, Written by William M Lolli
Boy, does this Administration think we are all stupid!?!
Fast and Furious all started here: Back in 2009, within the first 100 days of the new Obama Administration, Sect of State Hillary went to Mexico and made radical claims that America was to blame for the economy of trading drugs, money, and guns across our mutual borders.
Gun Rights advocates, including the NRA, said “You don’t know that!” since it had long since been proven that the vast numbers of serial-numbers taken off of weapons seized in the drug wars revealed that most weapon-systems originated from outside the US, mainly China, Russia, and the Middle-East.
To prevent wearing more egg than usual and to secure a foothold against the 2nd Amendment Lobby, the Admin had to prove that guns were coming from the US. So they modified the existing GWB program to allow guns to fall into the hands of the cartel with the intent of linking the weapons to crimes AFTER THE FACT. As a result, hundreds of people are now dead.
You connect the dots….
VIDEO #1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWckd5P3Fuw
Hillary Blamed YOU for ‘Fast and Furious’ 2009.
Uploaded on Jul 12, 2011
Hillary, in 2009, was spreading the lie that it was the American people that were responsible for illegal guns to Mexico when in fact it was the ‘Fast and Furious program of the Obama Administration itself that was breaking the law.
VIDEO #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEEL7CWsL00&feature=player_detailpage
BREAKING! Obama KNEW about Gun Walking into Mexico in March 2009! PROOF!
Published on Jun 22, 2012
Read STORY:
http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1091:obama-knew-all-along-about-faf&catid=15:contributor-commentaries&Itemid=46
Walmart hires Sen. Lincoln: Obama/Biden, Insist on appoint. !
Former Sen. Blanche Lincoln IS RATED: D+ by the NRA, indicating a PRO-GUN CONTROL VOTING RECORD!!
I predict that Your ‘NEW WALMART’ will STOP SELLING GUNS, AND AMMUNITION forever very SOON!!!
Once the government controls the big Walmart chain stores, and stops Gun and ammunition sales, how easy will it be to start cornering, and manipulating your local Mom and POP Gun Dealer!?!? VERY EASY!!
WHY DO I THINK THIS!?!!!?
:WALMART GOT CAUGHT BIG TIME!!!
:Walmart President and CEO Mike Duke was caught lying under oath to Congress, AND ALSO paying out BIG MONEY To now Many OTHER Countries!!
WALMART CEO also has a federal offense charge for giving cash bribes to the country of MEXICO!
You don’t think that Obama and Biden don’t have him by the balls and are starting to tighten up on his NUTS!!!
They are slowing cutting off the flow of blood to his balls to the point they are withering up like raisins, and he will soon be fully castrated!!!
WALMART CEO WILL DO ANYTHING TO STAY OUT OF PRISON, INCLUDING SCREWING EVERY LAW ABIDING CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!
EVIDENCE AGAINST WALMART and Executives IS MUCH:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/172127/congressmen-e-mails-reveal-walmart-ceo-was-repeatedly-informed-bribery-scandal-2005#
http://investorplace.com/2013/01/walmart-ceo-in-hot-water-again-over-mexico-bribery-allegations/
HERE IS WALMARTS OWN STATEMENTS ON SUBJECT:
http://walmarthelp.com/tag/mexican-bribery-scandal/
Walmart President and CEO Mike Duke
***Congressmen: E-mails Reveal Walmart CEO Was Repeatedly Informed of Bribery Scandal in 2005
Josh Eidelson on January 10, 2013
According to the Times, Walmart’s current internal investigation has also turned up “indications of bribery in China, Brazil and India.”
***“It would be a serious matter,” wrote Democratic Congressman Cummings and Waxman, “if the CEO of one of our nation’s largest companies failed to address allegations of a bribery scheme.”
***Buchanan said that Walmart has “provided extensive documentation” to the DOJ and the SEC, “including the documents released today, as part of our ongoing cooperation with the appropriate law enforcement agencies on this matter.”
***”These new documents reveal that top executives knew about the bribery allegations as early as October 2005. If Wal-Mart officials now admit this, they need to explain why they took no action to address these allegations for years afterwards.”
Sen. Blanche Lincoln IS RATED: D+ by the NRA, indicating a PRO-gun control voting record. (Aug 2010) http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Blanche_Lambert_Lincoln.htm
Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) has been hired by WALMART:
Blanche Lincoln, Former Arkansas Senator, Hire
WALMART: Report
Former Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) Record:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/20/blanche-lincoln-walmart_n_2726964.html?utm_hp_ref=gun-control
She has been hired by Walmart as an outside consultant, according to Politico Influence. The senator, who is billed as a “special policy advisor” with Alston & Bird, is now free to lobby the Senate, having left the upper chamber two years ago.
Walmart’s move comes as the Arkansas-based corporation, THE NATIONS LARGEST GUN RETAILER, met with White House officials last month. The Washington Post reported that THE WHITE HOUSE IS SEEKING SUPPORT FROM WALMART!,.. and other retailers for potential gun legislation.
Lincoln received some $96,600 from Walmart employees, their family members and the company’s PAC during her political career, according to Influence Explorer. As a senator, she opposed the Employee Free Choice Act, which would have made it easier for workers to form unions; Walmart hired one of her former staffers to lobby against the bill.
Lincoln lost reelection by a landslide to Sen. John Boozman (R-Ark.) in 2010, after narrowly defeating former Arkansas Lt. Gov Bill Halter (D) in the primary. Halter ran at her from the left.
CALL, WRITE, EMAIL, and CONTACT YOUR STATE LOCAL, AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES NOW!!!
***BOYCOTT WALMART NOW,.. GO TO TARGET! GO TO ANY PLACE ELSE BUT stop buying anything at WALMART and let them know why!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE BEFORE ALL YOUR RIGHTS ARE TAKEN FROM YOU!!!
56 Million Trusted thier Government when they were disarmed!
56 million People since 1900 around the world have had their Guns taken from them “For the good of their society”,..
56 million People trusted their Governments when they said ‘you don’t need to Own a Gun We will protect you from criminals’
“This is for the good of the children” and the people of our country. “Trust us, it is for the best”!
They trusted and gave their Government their Guns and the way to protect themselves against tyranny and for self defense use,..
In Many countries around the World since 1900, a few years after each “gave” their Guns away,..56 million People have been murdered, Killed, or disappeared while “Being taken care of” by their “loving and Caring” Governments! The Blood literally, Soaked the Ground!
Example: Quote:
“IDEAS ARE FAR MORE POWERFUL THAN GUNS! WE DON”T LET OUR PEOPLE HAVE GUNS,.. WHY SHOULD WE LET THEM HAVE IDEAS!?” _-Joseph Stalin
In 1929 the Soviet Union established gun control,.. From 1929- 1953,.. 20 Million dissidents unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated!
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR GUN GIFT TO YOUR GOVERNMENT!
Every-time you give them a Gun without a fight they will say THANK YOU!
Remember: When they come to visit you again sometime after that, to, Make sure you lean your head as far forward as you can, when you kneel and bow down before them, and expose as much of your neck as you can to make it easier for the death squad to take off your head.
They might even say a last ‘thank you’. Don’t forget to say THANK YOU in return! It will be the last thing you say before they finally silence your Voice!
Always Be polite and do what your told!
CONTROL Works!Gun Control Works! Larry Pratt: Experts Agree!
Gun Control Works! Larry Pratt and the Experts Agree!
VISIT “GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA” Here! http://gunowners.org/
Larry Pratt – Executive Director. Help preserve America’s 2nd Amendment rights and freedoms!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3LLG0hJ6E&feature=endscreen
– “IF YOU TRUST GOD – WHY OWN A GUN?”
Do YOU trust God? Let me ask you…
1. Do YOU wear a seat-belt?
2. Do YOU lock your doors at night?
3. Do YOU remove your keys from your car at the Mall?
4. Do YOU take walks in a crack dealing neighborhood?
5. Do YOU brush your teeth?
6. Do YOU go to the doctor when sick?
WHY do you do these things? Don’t YOU trust God? See the ridiculousness of your question?
– OK – so tonight when a burglar is standing over your bed with a hatchet – please don’t shoot him…you would be acting very “worldly.” See how silly you sound when you pontificate without thinking about the real world? Just saying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-3LLG0hJ6E&feature=endscreen
Armed Citizen Militia Shows Up At Occupy Phoenix Alex Jones’ Inf
Armed Citizen Militia Shows Up At Occupy Phoenix Alex Jones’ Infowars There’s a war on for your mind!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vplwUROCAFY&feature=endscreen
Anonymous — Response To Obama’s 2013 Gun Control Policy
Anonymous — Response To Obama’s 2013 Gun Control Policy Published on Jan 11, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqiS3f4gxCQ&feature=endscreen
Please share this video with your family, friends, and co-workers. Most of all, share with people who are anti-gun.
Please explain to them that losing the 2nd Amendment is not just about guns, but that it will open the door to the future restrictions of the Rights of ALL Americans.
Tell them to imagine what it would be like to lose the Right to Free Speech, or the Freedom of Religion. Explain to them that history has proven many many times that once a government starts restricting the Rights of their people, it quickly becomes easier to do so, and impossible to stop once it has started. Show them unbiased research.
Also explain to them that by restricting Law Abiding citizens from owning firearms, their safety will be placed further into jeopardy by even bolder criminal acts. Let them know that even though they themselves may not choose to own or carry a firearm, by the fact that other law abiding people do choose to arm themselves, it does actually make them safer. Criminals who commit their crimes now, do so with the full knowledge that there is a strong possibility they will run into a gun owner. And criminals choose their victims based on this knowledge. They try to choose victims who are unlikely be armed. But once criminals know the public is disarmed, they will be able to commit even more violent crimes with NO FEAR that a victim might have the ability to fight back.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqiS3f4gxCQ&feature=endscreen
Gun Control Works, The Experts Agree!!
The experts that have experienced and implemented GUN CONTROL ALL AGREE! IT WORKS!!!
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCt_IijlP_g
VERY IMPRESSIVE, AND PROVES IT WORKS VERY WELL!
7TH Circuit Court: POSNER Ruling STANDS; WIN FOR CCW
7TH CIRCUIT LETS POSNER RULING STAND; HUGE WIN FOR CCW, SAYS SAF. Immediate Release: 2/22/2013
BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today won,.. The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals let stand a December ruling by a three-judge panel of the court that forces Illinois to adopt a concealed carry law, thus affirming that the right to bear arms exists outside the home.
The ruling came in Moore v. Madigan case filed by SAF. The December opinion that now stands was written by Judge Richard Posner, who gave the Illinois legislature 180 days to “craft a new gun law that will impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public safety and the Second Amendment…on the carrying of guns in public.” That clock is ticking, noted SAF Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb.
“Illinois lawmakers need to create some kind of licensing system or face the prospect of not having any regulations at all when Judge Posner’s deadline arrives,” Gottlieb said. “They need to act. They can no longer run and hide from this mandate.”
“We were delighted with Judge Posner’s ruling in December,” he continued, “and today’s decision by the entire circuit to allow his ruling to stand is a major victory, and not just for gun owners in Illinois. Judge Posner’s ruling affirmed that the right to keep and bear arms, itself, extends beyond the boundary of one’s front door.”
In December, Judge Posner wrote, “The right to ‘bear’ as distinct from the right to ‘keep’ arms is unlikely to refer to the home. To speak of ‘bearing’ arms within one’s home would at all times have been an awkward usage. A right to bear arms thus implies a right to carry a loaded gun outside the home.”
Judge Posner subsequently added, “To confine the right to be armed to the home is to divorce the Second Amendment from the right of self-defense described in Heller and McDonald.”
“It is now up to the legislature,” Gottlieb said, “to craft a statute that recognizes the right of ordinary citizens to carry outside the home, without a sea of red tape or a requirement to prove any kind of need beyond the cause of personal protection.”
The ruling also affects a similar case known as Shepard v. Madigan.
The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation’s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. In addition to the landmark McDonald v. Chicago Supreme Court Case, SAF has previously funded successful firearms-related suits against the cities of Los Angeles; New Haven, CT; New Orleans; Chicago and San Francisco on behalf of American gun owners, a lawsuit against the cities suing gun makers and numerous amicus briefs holding the Second Amendment as an individual right.
http://saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=423
Rape Victim: I am a CCW holder, Legislation Caused My RAPE!
“I WAS LEGISLATED INTO BEING A RAPE VICTIM!”
Colorado Democrat Rep. Joe Salazar is in trouble over rape comments!, and Amanda Collins’ powerful response!,..:
***AMANDA COLLINS Quote:
“I can tell You, That a Call box above my head, While I was Straddled on the Parking Lot Floor Being Brutally RAPED, wouldn’t have helped me One Bit!” “I was in a ‘SAFE’ Zone, and My ATTACKER DID NOT CARE!”
She apparently, did not feel very ‘SAFE’ in the ‘SAFE’ Zone as she was being RAPED!
WATCH and LISTEN TO HER 15 minuet INTERVIEW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5BTl6m7Kk&feature=player_embedded
QUOTE: From Amanda Collins (Victim).
“I was a CCW Permit holder at the time, but I followed the law and did not have my weapon on my person at the time due to the campus being a gun free SAFE zone! (Campus Police office was 150 feet away from where the Attack and Rape occurred! Marked Police cars in the lot!)
If she had at that moment defended herself with her CCW Gun that she did not have with her, and used her gun, she would have been arrested, had her CCW permit taken away from her for life, and lost her schooling she paid for by being banned from the campus because she had a gun!)
***Her attacker went on to Fame From her attack,.. to then Rape Two more Victims, and then Killed the third Victim all on campus! (Rapist is Currently on death row)
Don’t ‘YOU FEEL SAFE’ Now!?
VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH Amanda Collins (Rape Victim).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5BTl6m7Kk&feature=player_embedded
***Amanda Collins, a woman who was raped at the University of Nevada – She responds to comments made about campus rape by Colorado State Rep. Joe Salazar –
***Colorado Democrat Representative. Joe Salazar Comments to Victims of Sexual assault and RAPE To WOMEN: VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvng-jSp60&feature=player_embedded
“It’s why we have call boxes, it’s why we have safe zones, it’s why we have the whistles. Because you just don’t know who you’re gonna be shooting at,(The RAPIST). And you don’t know if you ‘FEEL LIKE’ you’re gonna be RAPED, or if you ‘FEEL LIKE’ someone’s been Following you around or if you ‘FEEL LIKE’ you’re In Trouble when you may actually not be, that you pop out that gun and you pop … pop around at somebody.”(The Rapist)
(God, (Joe Salazar) Forbid we stop an Sexual attacker by defending ourselves with a gun!?)
Salazar Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCvng-jSp60&feature=player_embedded
For more information on Amanda’s story, go to:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/08/opponents-gun-free-zones-universities-unlikely-hero-nevada-woman/
February 20, 2013 –
Police Loophole, Police can have it, But Lawful citizens CAN’T!
What is the police loophole?
There are some states, counties, cities, and municipalities in our great nation that fail to allow their citizens to fully exercise their right to keep and bear arms with restrictions such as magazine capacity or types of firearms that are widely available to citizens of other states, counties, cities, and municipalities. However, these government entities do not place these restrictions upon their own employees, such as police officers.
What is this list?
This is a list of companies that have taken the step to publicly announce that they will not sell items to states, counties, cities, and municipalities that restrict their citizens rights to own them; therefore closing the “police loophole” themselves.
Don’t see one that belongs on here or want your company on the list? Send me an email at admin@thepoliceloophole.com or tweet us @policeloophole with #thepoliceloophole. Please also include a link to the written policy either on Facebook or your website.
Loophole, Police, Law Abiding Citizens can’t Protect themselfs!
What is the police loophole?
There are some states, counties, cities, and municipalities in our great nation that fail to allow their citizens to fully exercise their right to keep and bear arms with restrictions such as magazine capacity or types of firearms that are widely available to citizens of other states, counties, cities, and municipalities. However, these government entities do not place these restrictions upon their own employees, such as police officers.
*** THE FOLLOWING: is a list of companies that have taken the step to publicly announce that they will not sell items to states, counties, cities, and municipalities that restrict their citizens rights to own them; therefore closing the “police loophole” themselves.
Don’t see one that belongs on here or want your company on the list? Send me an email at admin@thepoliceloophole.com or tweet us @policeloophole with #thepoliceloophole. Please also include a link to the written policy either on Facebook or your website.
http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/
NICE LIST:
Company
Extreme Firepower Inc, LLC
Cheaper Than Dirt
MidwayUSA
Predator Intelligence
LaRue Tactical
Olympic Arms
Templar Custom
York Arms
Bullwater Enterprises LLC
dba A & T Firearms
West Fork Armory
Smith Enterprise, Inc
Alex Arms
Spike’s Tactical
Quality Arms Idaho
Liberty Suppressors
Doublestar Corp
American Spirit Arms
Tactical Solutions
Head Down Products, LLC
Exile Machine
J&G Sales, Ltd
Bravo Company USA
ACE LTD.
Barrett
***NAUGHTY LIST:
http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/
Company:
***Armalite
Will not sell to agencies, but will sell to individuals of agencies.
***GT Distributors
Currently ONLY selling to LEO
http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/
Children: Video: How the government cares about your Children!
THIS IS THE NEW GOVERNMENT YOU VOTED INTO OFFICE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3oPloe08a3Q#!
“Your not allowed to video tape your 3 year old while we pat her down”
She was Confined to a wheel chair due to disabilities being patted down for no reason, no probable cause, and they had already been cleared through screening but,..
“due to the fact she is disabled she will need to go through screening again”
WRONG, SIGNALLING OUT HANDICAPPED PEOPLE, and ILLEGAL, and a clear violation of over the top privacy violation!!!
But the Government said they,.. “were sorry” so according to the way the Government has repeatedly violated people, they can do this to you and your children whenever they want,.. and its OK for them to do, whatever the hell they want to!,.. as long as they report to the media that they said, “they were sorry”!?!? LOL
They will now apparently “retrain” there people and “review” their procedures” WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!! How many times are they going to supposedly “RETRAIN” their people.
I have read 5 stories in the last 5 months of the same violations, and the same response,.. THEY DON”T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU!! WAKE UP AND COMPLAIN!!
OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND VOICE YOUR OPPOSITION TO GOVERNMENT INTRUSION!!
HOW MANY YEARS OF THERAPY will be needed, TO COUNTER THE FEAR IN THE CHILD THE GOVERNMENT CREATED FOR NO REASON?
Do you think the government will pay for this? Of course not, Why, Because YOU THE PUBLIC ALLOW IT!!
CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES, STATE, LOCAL, AND FEDERAL!!! THEY CLEARLY HAVE SHOWN THEY DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU or any of US in the U.S.!
THIS GOVERNMENT IS OUT OF CONTROL!!! This is just one example of Tyranny on Video,..
IS THE POPULATION GETTING SO STUPID THEY DON”T SEE THE PRIVACY violations demonstrated and SEEN EVERYDAY BY THE GOVERNMENT!?!?! EXERCISE YOUR RIGHTS BEFORE THEY ARE TAKEN AWAY FROM LACK OF USE!!! WAKE UP!!!
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3oPloe08a3Q#!
STORY:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/tsa-detains-3-year-old-in-wheelchair.html
Media outlets report US Gov. Stockpiling Ammo, for domestic use
Drudge Report along with other media outlets including WPIX-TV have reported that 750 million rounds of ammo was purchased by the Department of Homeland Security for domestic use.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036847_ammo_purchases_government_stockpiling_media_lies.html
http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/why-is-government-stockpiling-guns-ammo
Your Opini on,..
No matter what your opinion, you need to see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZo4hbGJjVI&NR=1&feature=endscreen
Gun Ownership on the rise among women.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/50835309#50835309
Women defying gun ownership stereotype
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/50835309#50834292
Local News clips show people defending themselves with guns. The mainstream media never shows you people using the second Amendment the way it was intended.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP9po0T0vQIA
standard Magazine Ban Will Kill You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3cJAV8ce-j0
STANDARD CAPACITY MAGAZINE BAN for WHAT?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeQiVBvy0m0
Magazines for Obama and Friends, Limited For Us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbViXxAdORU
The Magazine Myth: Anti-Gun Crowd Deliberately Misleads the Public
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJZkepG-YaM&feature=endscreen&NR=1
NY Victims protect themselves from intruder with new Gun laws!
When New Gun laws are in place, All NY Pistol Safes Will Be Like this one.
NY “gun safety experts”: A pistol safe like the one in the video would keep us safer. Frankly, I think it only makes things safer for the criminal element.
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2013/02/if-gun-banners-had-their-way-all-pistol.html
484 Sheriffs of Counties Will Defend the Constitution!!!
484 County Sheriffs Will Defend the Constitution
http://constitutionclub.ning.com/forum/topics/county-sheriff-s-honor-roll
The following 61 Florida County Sheriffs joined the previous six Florida County Sheriffs to announce that they will not enforce laws that violate the Constitution or infringe on the rights of the people to own firearms. Four County Sheriff from Georgia have also taken a stand to defend the second amendment
http://cspoa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Second-Amendment-Proclamation.pdf
Gun Mfg.’s : We Have Questions for YOU!
***CONTACT THESE GUN MANUFACTURING COMPANIES BELOW AND ASK THEM ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS:
If you as a Gun Manufacturer are selling products to Law Enforcement Agencies in New York, California and other Areas BUT NOT TO LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, that are 80% plus of there business..:
1)- How will These Government restrictions help your business Grow in Locations restricted your sales to 30% of what it was in 2012 to Law Abiding Civilians? (Don’t forget about all the accessories and ammunition that wont be sold in the future!)2) How fast will your Business have to start Laying off People due to 70% Drop of your sales, gone overnight to Law Abiding Civilians, if Laws like these are passed Nation wide!?
Ask these Gun Manufacturers this Question:
1)- There are currently 800,000 Law enforcement people employed and Using Firearms in the United States,..
In 2012 there were 20 million Background Checks and Sales to buy Guns, by Law Abiding Private Citizens.
If the government Takes away your sales to Private Citizens when Laws are passed, how are you going to explain to your employees when the doors are closing that you said nothing to stand up and Boycott Government action to prevent this?
(projected lost sales of citizens gun purchases are around 70% of those before the Government Restricts sales when laws are changed to restrict all Gun related Products!)
So,..
Lets say in 2013 the Government Restricts your Civilian Sales of your total product line to only 30% of what your sales to these 20 million Law Abiding people was in 2012,.. But as a benefit, the Government lets you continue your regular sales to ONLY the 800,000 Law Enforcement Personnel. (for Police work only, Not Private Purchases) As an Added Bonus these future sales have to be approved by the government first!,..
**How do you project that this might effect your future Business, Profits, Bottom Line and employees? (Do you still have that key to lock the doors forever!?, you might need it!)
***How many gun companies are you going to compete against to get the remaining sales!?
(I hope you have really skilled sales people that are willing to travel! How much are flights hotel and car rental these days?)
***Maybe if you just drop your prices down,..Oh, that won’t work because costs are jumping 10% between this year and next! (Kiss your benefits for your employees goodbye,.. OH you can’t because King Obama says you are now forced too keep them! LOL,)
(These sales $Dollars$ figures do Not include all the accessories or ammunition that was used by these new Gun Owners.,..Don’t forget,
If the Government Passes these New Restrictive Laws for Civilians It will Be permanent, and then the Current Guns on the Market that can be sold under the new laws will be maybe 30% of what it is right now!
*Guns wont need repairs if they are not being used or sold
*Civilians wont need ammunition as much as they used to,
*Civilian Gun Parts won’t wear out, for lack of use
*Leather wont deteriorate on belts and gun straps because nobody needs them for guns they don’t have.
*fancy extras would be against the law,
*wont need any more extra cleaning supplies,
*wont need new shooting clothes they wont get worn out
*Eye, hearing, hat, and clothing protection sales will plummet because people wont be shooting as much.
How is that going to work out for your Company!?
***163,000,000 Million Background/ Sales of Guns to Civilians since Nov. 1998
***19.6 Million in all of 2012
***2.5 Million in January 2013
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/20130205_1998_2013_monthly_yearly_totals.pdf
***STRUM, RUGER & CO., INC.
Customer Service Dept.- Newport, NH
411 Sunapee Street, Newport, NH 03773
Telephone: 603-865-2442 / Fax: 603-863-6165
(Monday through Friday 8:00am – 5:00pm EST)
Customer Service Dept.- Prescott, AZ.
200 Ruger Road, Prescott, AZ 86301
Telephone: 928-541-8892 / Fax: 928-541-8835
(Monday through Friday 8:00am – 5:00pm MST)
http://www.ruger.com/micros/advocacy/
***SMITH & WESSON
Email: qa@smith-wesson.com
By Telephone: 1-800-331-0852
Mon-Fri 8:00AM-8:00PM Eastern Time
By Fax: 1-413-747-3317
By Mail: Smith & Wesson, 2100 Roosevelt Avenue
Springfield, MA 01104
***REMINGTON, Corporate Headquarters
Email: info@remington.com
Remington Arms Company, LLC
870 Remington Drive, P.O. Box 700
Madison, NC 27025-0700, TEL: 1-800-243-9700
Fax: 1-336-548-7801
Public Relations & Press Office
TEL: 1-800-537-2278 (Press Only)
Fax: 1-336-548-7750
***SIG SAUER INC., U.S. Headquarters
18 Industrial Drive, Exeter, NH 03833
Phone: 603-772-2302, Fax: 603-772-9082
http://www.sigsauer.com
***GLOCK, Inc.
6000 Highlands Parkway, Smyrna, GA 30082
Tel.: 770 – 432 1202
Fax: 770 – 433 8719
***COLT CORPORATE OFFICE
Colt Defense LLC, Law Enforcement Department:
P.O. Box 118, Hartford, CT, 06141
Tel: (800) 241-2485, (860) 232-4489
Fax: (860) 244-1442
Colt Defense LLC
547 New Park Ave., West Hartford, CT, 06110
Colt’s Manufacturing Company LLC
P.O. Box 1868, Hartford, CT 06144
Tel: 800-962-COLT (2658) * Mon-Fri 9am to 5pm EST
Fax: (860) 244-1379
http://www.colt.com/ColtLawEnforcement/Contact.aspx
http://www.coltsmfg.com/Contact.aspx
Colt Law Enforcement > Agencies that Carry
Agencies that Carry Colt Firearms
LOOK Up Agencies COLT Sells To In Your Area on there interactive Google map HERE:
http://www.colt.com/ColtLawEnforcement/AgenciesthatCarry.aspx
Example,..Here are ones In New York City area:
*Allegheny County P.D. Belmont, NY
*Arcade P.D., Arcade, NY
*Bath P.D., Bath, NY
*Dept of Homeland Security, New York, NY
*New York P.D., New York, NY
*U.S.Marshals Service, New York, NY
*U.S.Marshal Service, EDNY, Brooklyn, NY
*New York P.D., Brooklyn, NY
*NYC F. B.Field, Brooklyn, NY
*NYPD, Brooklyn, NY
Pound Sand!, 5 gun Co.’s Tell NEW YORK to “GO POUND SAND!”
Five companies, thus far, have communicated their intention not to sell to any police or government agencies in New York State.
LaRue Tactical, Olympic Arms, Extreme Firepower Inc, LLC, Templar Custom, and York Arms!
Guns Save Life is joining with Grass Roots North Carolina in calling for all American gun owners to pressure Sig Sauer, Smith and Wesson and Glock to shut off sales to government agencies in New York State.
If you know executives in any of these companies, email them directly. If not, we’ve got some email addresses below for you.
Keep it short and sweet. Long missives will not be read, so save your time for constructive endeavors.
Here’s a suggested message: We don’t live in a police state: If it can’t be sold to citizens, it won’t be sold to State and local government.
publicsafetysales@sigsauer.com, dgrier@smith-wesson.com, LE.info@glock.us
LaRue Tactical Takes a Stand for Second Amendment Rights!
“Effective today, in an effort to see that no legal mistakes are made by LaRue Tactical and/or its employees, we will apply all current State and Local Laws (as applied to civilians) to state and local law enforcement / government agencies. In other words, LaRue Tactical will limit all sales to what law-abiding citizens residing in their districts can purchase or possess.”
(http://www.facebook.com/LaRueAccuracy#!/LaRueAccuracy/posts/529849683721877)
http://www.grnc.org/grnc-alerts-archive/419-grnc-alert-2-9-2013-larue-tactical-takes-a-stand-for-second-amendment-rights•
The NYPD allows officers to select one of three firearms for duty carry: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department#Firearms):
• SIG P226 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_P226)
• Smith & Wesson 5946 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_5906)
• Glock 19 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_19#9.C3.9719mm_Parabellum).
All of these pistols are equipped with a greater than 7-round magazine, making them illegal for sale to law-abiding New York residents.
Send the following letter to SIG, Smith & Wesson, and Glock and ask them to follow LaRue Tactical’s lead. Tell them to adopt the same rule: If it can’t be sold to citizens, it won’t be sold to State and local government.
Contact
Cut and paste email list: publicsafetysales@sigsauer.com, dgrier@smith-wesson.com, LE.info@glock.us
DELIVER THIS MESSAGE: IF IT’S ILLEGAL FOR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS TO OWN IN A JURISDICTION, DON”T SELL IT TO THE POLICE IN THAT JURISDICTION!
Dear Law Enforcement Sales Manager,
Recently New York rushed an ill-advised and unconstitutional law infringing on the rights of law-abiding gun owners. Other states are poised to write similar laws. I urge you to follow the lead of LaRue Tactical which has adopted this policy: If it can’t be sold to law-abiding citizens, it won’t be sold to state and local police agencies either!
There are 800,000 sworn police officers in the entire United States. The FBI reports a total of 2,495,440 NICS checks, and thus firearms sales, in January alone. Police sales are not your major business. It’s time for firearm manufacturers to send a clear message that you will not participate in the slow erosion of our Second Amendment rights.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/20130205_1998_2013_monthly_yearly_totals.pdf
Signed,
A Concerned Gun Owner
GUN MANUFACTURERS THAT HAVE ALSO JOINED:
***Templar Custom new, New York State Sales Policy
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/templar-custom-announces-new-york-state-sales-policy/#ixzz2KttNDqhZ
***Olympic Arms, Halts Sales to New York Law Enforcement,
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh-zOtr4-S8&feature=player_embedded
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/02/foghorn/olympic-arms-stops-all-sales-to-ny-leos/
http://www.guns.com/2013/02/14/olympic-arms-halts-sales-to-new-york-law-enforcement/
***Extreme Firepower Inc, LLC, If a product that we manufacture is not legal for a private citizen to own in a jurisdiction, we will not sell that product to a law-enforcement agency in that jurisdiction. California is specifically mentioned on the policy page and is prohibited from purchasing the firm’s reputable equipment include New York State, City of Chicago and Washington, D.C. — jurisdictions with among the most draconian infringements on the rights of law-abiding citizens.
http://www.extremefirepower.com/policies.html
***LaRue Tactical Leading on Policy to Limit State, Local Law Enforcement Sales to Civilian Standards, restricts law enforcement sales in response to gun control laws. http://www.firearmspolicy.org/2013/02/mark-larue-larue-tactical-leading-on-policy-to-limit-state-local-law-enforcement-sales-to-civilian-standards/
http://www.guns.com/2013/02/09/larue-tactical-to-restrict-law-enforcement-sales-in-response-to-gun-control-laws/
***York Arms, ATTN: LE/Govt customers in New York:
YOUR ORDERS HAVE BEEN CANCELED!
http://www.yorkarms.com/ny.html
Obama’s confiscation, Mandatory Gun Buyback & Registration!
Ask Obama’s Experts
Published on Feb 12, 2013 Obama’s confiscation & Mandatory Gun Buyback!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHmxY7zE5uc&feature=player_embedded
Even Obama’s experts say his gun control policies won’t work. According to an internal Department of Justice memorandum, a gun ban, like the one being debated right now in Congress, will not work without a mandatory gun buyback, and “universal” background checks will not work without requiring gun registration. Call Congress at 202-224-3121 and tell them to reject President Obama’s gun control agenda — and to get serious about prosecuting criminals and fixing our broken mental health system.
VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHmxY7zE5uc&feature=player_embedded
Canada Warns American Gun Owners of confiscation Comming!
Warning To American Gun Owners From Canadian News Anchor
chris wigtion, Published on Feb 11, 2013
Warning To American Gun Owners From Canadian News Anchor
Brian Lilley gives an important warning to his American friends: registration of firearms will lead to the confiscation of firearms.
VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LIrBUrFV2Ac#!
Sheriff’s Association of Illinois does Not support gun ban!!!
Illinois Sheriff’s Association doesn’t support gun ban
QUINCY, ILL. — The Illinois Sheriff’s Association says it does not support Governor Pat Quinn’s proposed ban on assault weapons.
Closer to Quincy, Pike County Sheriff Paul Petty knows that many residents in his county don’t want any sort of increased limitations on any sort of firearms.
Petty and Adams County Sheriff Brent Fischer are members of the Illinois sheriff’s association. That organization is now saying it will not back the governor’s proposed assault weapon ban.
“But it covers all areas. From mental illness to our role in enforcing the current gun laws, to prosecutor’s role in prosecuting to the fullest extent of our current gun laws. Trying to deter those crimes that are occurring,” Petty said.
Sheriff Fischer agrees with the association’s take on the contentious issue. He said that law-abiding citizens will follow the laws that are currently on the books.
“Too many times, we find people that are in possession of firearms and they don’t have a FOID card or they don’t have anything that says they should own a firearm. So, I think that’s, what our concern is. It would be different if we thought it had a real effect. But I don’t think it does,” Fischer said.
The gun-control and a possible repeal of concealed weapons restrictions are on the legislative calendar in Springfield in the spring. Fischer and Petty both hope the issue is defeated before it has a chance to gain momentum.
http://www.connecttristates.com/news/story.aspx?id=859729#.URxoUmfeCSo
Protect Children!, Are FINEST are protecting Your Children! LOL!
***5-year-old suspended from playtime for making toy gun out of Legos (Photos)
http://www.examiner.com/article/5-year-old-suspended-from-playtime-for-making-toy-gun-out-of-legos
***Kindergartner suspended for threatening to ‘shoot’ a classmate with bubbles
http://www.examiner.com/article/kindergartner-suspended-for-threatening-to-shoot-a-classmate-with-bubbles
***TSA takes toy away from mentally challenged man w mental capacity of a two year old.
http://www.examiner.com/article/tsa-takes-toy-away-from-mentally-challenged-man
***Student suspended for having picture of gun on his laptop (Photos)
http://www.examiner.com/article/student-suspended-for-having-picture-of-gun-on-his-laptop
***SF HS student suspended over private Newtown poem
http://www.examiner.com/article/sf-hs-student-suspended-over-private-newtown-poem?cid=rss
***School claims 7-year-old is racist for asking classmate about skin color
http://www.examiner.com/article/sf-hs-student-suspended-over-private-newtown-poem?cid=rss
***6-year-old Maryland student suspended for pointing finger like gun
http://www.examiner.com/article/6-year-old-maryland-student-suspended-for-pointing-finger-like-gun
***Another Maryland 6-year-old suspended for pointing finger like gun
http://www.examiner.com/article/another-maryland-6-year-old-suspended-for-pointing-finger-like-gun
***Father arrested, strip-searched after 4-year-old draws ‘man with gun’
http://www.examiner.com/article/father-arrested-strip-searched-after-4-year-old-draws-man-with-gun
***School disciplines 10-year-old for gun-shaped pizza slice (Video)
http://www.examiner.com/article/school-disciplines-10-year-old-for-gun-shaped-pizza-slice-video
***School refuses to allow preschooler to eat ‘non-nutritious’ lunch from home,..A turkey and cheese sandwich, a banana, a container of apple juice, and potato chips.
http://www.examiner.com/article/school-refuses-to-allow-preschooler-to-eat-non-nutritious-lunch-from-home
***School accuses 6-year-old of sexual assault during schoolyard game of tag,.. Things changed very quickly when the families lawyer showed up!
http://www.examiner.com/article/school-accuses-6-year-old-of-sexual-assault-during-schoolyard-game-of-tag
***11-year-old saves baby bird’s life, gets fined $535 (UPDATE)
http://www.examiner.com/article/11-year-old-saves-baby-bird-s-life-gets-fined-535-update
***NJ boy suspended from school because Muslim girl overheard him say “Taliban”,..Supreme Court’s rulings on the application of the First Amendment to school speech
http://www.examiner.com/article/nj-boy-suspended-from-school-because-muslim-girl-overheard-him-say-taliban
***Another TSA theft at JFK, this one targeting teen
http://www.examiner.com/article/another-tsa-theft-at-jfk-this-one-targeting-teen
***NYC teacher tricks 5th graders into sending Christmas cards to prison inmate
http://www.examiner.com/article/nyc-teacher-tricks-5th-graders-into-sending-christmas-cards-to-prison-inmate
Children, Are FINEST ARE PROTECT YOUR KIDS! 1 MORE!
I HAD TO ADD THIS ONE!!!
The 6 Dumbest Things Schools Are Doing in the Name of Safety
http://www.cracked.com/article_19339_the-6-dumbest-things-schools-are-doing-in-name-safety.html
Read more: http://www.cracked.com/article_19339_the-6-dumbest-things-schools-are-doing-in-name-safety.html#ixzz2Ko9dhmyt
Gerald Ford, President
GERALD FORD Once Said:
“A GOVERNMENT BIG ENOUGH TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT,.. IS A GOVERNMENT, BIG ENOUGH TO TAKE FROM YOU EVERYTHING YOU HAVE!
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_415961955_n.jpg
Obama Should Pursue Criminals Not Law Abiding US Citizens!
Obama talks about a ‘Gun Control’ vote That CRIMINALS who CAUSE GUN related CRIMES, NEVER HAVE, AND NEVER WILL ABIDE BY!
but once again,..
NOT ONE DAM WORD! NOT EVEN A SUGGESTION ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO, OR PURSUING AND LOCKING UP CRIMINALS THAT CAUSE THESE NUMEROUS CRIMES THAT KILL, MAIM, AND DAMAGED PEOPLES LIVES!
Here’s a Suggestion,.. PURSUE, and Take the CRIMINALS OFF OUR STREETS AND OUT OF SOCIETY WHEN THEY COMMIT A CRIME!
STOP MAKING more laws that do nothing!
ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS!!!
WHEN IS Obama and THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO STOP ATTACKING THE UNITED STATES LAW ABIDING CITIZENS GOD GIVEN CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTED RIGHTS, AS WELL OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, INCLUDING THE 2nd AMENDMENT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO OWN AND BARE ARMS WITHOUT INFRINGEMENT!?!
WHEN IS THE WHITE HOUSE, AND GOVERNMENT GOING TO START PURSUING, FINDING, CHARGING, PROSECUTING, AND PUTTING IN JAIL THE CRIMINALS THAT CAUSED, AND ARE CAUSING THESE CRIMES EVERY DAY?!
OUR GOVERNMENT SEEMS TOO BUSY, AND APPARENTLY HAS NO MONEY, OR RESOURCES TO PURSUE THESE CRIMINALS,..
WHY?..
…BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT IS USING ALL OF OUR POLICE, COURTS, JUDGES AND MONEY,..
TO CREATE MORE LAWS, THAT TAKE AWAY ARE RIGHTS AS CITIZENS,..
AND ALL OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL BILL OF RIGHTS THAT ARE PROTECTED BY LAW,..THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE TO PROTECT THE MILLIONS OF GOOD, HONEST, LAW ABIDING UNITED STATES CITIZENS RIGHTS, OF THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
PURSUE THE LAW BREAKERS, NOT Law Abiding Citizens RIGHTS!
NOTE:
Homeland Security alone Has Purchased 1.6+ Billion Bullets!?
***The Bullets were all ordered and delivered inside of the last 12 months!?
***This is 5+ Bullets for each of the 311 million people in our country including Illegal Immigrants.
***Half is Hollow Point Bullets that are not allowed outside of the US!?
***This is equal to a 25 Year War supply for the Army, Navy, Air-force, and Marines, to fight another Iraq War!?
***4 Days ago Homeland Security placed an additional order for 21.6 million more Bullets!?
***2 weeks ago Homeland Security Ordered,..
7000 Fully Automatic, REAL Assault AR-15’s Rifles w/ 30Bullet Magazines. They say they ordered them for Personal protection!?
FROM WHAT!?
***IS CANADA, MEXICO, ENGLAND, JAPAN, CHINA, AND GERMANY ALL GOING TO INVADE THE UNITED STATES,. AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME!??
http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/020813-643707-obama-homeland-security-vast-ammunition-purchases.htm
100 Bullets for every Background Check/ Gun.
It boggles my mind that Janet Napolitano, (the third United States Secretary of Homeland Security), or More realistically and likely, Her Subordinate Officers, seem to think she needs to ‘Black out’ Freedom of Information Act requests on this when granted by HLS by request, when applied for.
Actually when You read Below, you will see she is actually following the law,…
Under numbers,..1, 2, 3, 5, and 7!
What information is available under the FOIA?
The (FOIA) provides public access to all federal agency records except for those records (or portions of those records) that are protected from disclosure by any of nine exemptions or three exclusions (reasons for which an agency may withhold records from a requester).
The exemptions cover:
1)- classified national defense and foreign relations information,
2)- internal agency rules and practices,
3)- information that is prohibited from disclosure by another law,
4)- trade secrets and other confidential business information,
5)- inter-agency or intra-agency communications that are protected by legal privileges,
6)- information involving matters of personal privacy,
7)- certain information compiled for law enforcement purposes,
8)- information relating to the supervision of financial institutions, and
9)- geological information on wells.
The three exclusions, which are rarely used, pertain to especially sensitive law enforcement and national security matters.
These numbers are very simple and accurate. I Just find it Ironic the HLS, FBI, CIA, ‘and others’ think We, as Law abiding Citizens, can’t see this?
Of course this is all for the possible, but currently unrealistic event, of possible mass “Civil Unrest” by Law Abiding Citizens.
Seriously,.. Doesn’t Homeland Security Hire a Specialist in Psychology to Study the Population?
With the MATH,..The purchases and orders filled equal,..
100 Rounds of Ammunition (Bullets), For every 1 Background check completed and approved by the FBI, Who now shares this information with Homeland Security. From November 30, 1998 thru December 31, 2012,.. 160,474,702 million Background Checks were performed.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/
If we go by this schedule, me not knowing if this was approved background checks, or all checks performed approved or not. Personally I think this above number included all guns sold, with some background checks being more than one purchased at the same time. (I cannot confirm this, I don’t have access to this info)
Total= approximately 1.6 Million Background/guns sold. Which = 100 bullets multiplied by guns sold = 1.6 Billion bullets.
One can logically assume, that sometime around November 2011, that someone started looking at these charts and started putting orders in once it was approved to by Bullets, to make up for the number of past years of “Not being Repaired!” (For what I don’t know, Someone was probable looking for a promotion or was just afraid of there own shadow I guess.)
I guess they decided that when seeing all the background checks in the country over this time period, that,.. “What if all these law abiding Citizens that haven’t done more than get a traffic ticket decide to,. all get out there guns at the same time indiscriminately and randomly start shooting? LOL.
Actually these numbers are very simple and accurate.
In January 2013,.. 2,483,230 million background checks were sent in for approval,. This unadjusted figure I think is not including multiple gun purchases. With this info, I will add 323,230 additional guns to equal approximately 2,600,000 million background/ guns sold.
http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/020813-643707-obama-homeland-security-vast-ammunition-purchases.htm
An additional 21.6 million Bullets were just ordered just a few days into early February 2013.
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2013/02/second-highest-adjusted-nics-checks-on.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NoLawyers-OnlyGunsAndMoney+%28No+Lawyers+-+Only+Guns+and+Money%29
http://www.barking-moonbat.com/images/uploads/2012_NICS.gif
Math,.. Background/gun Check Approved = 1
Bullets ordered for Homeland security =100
This is in case,.. all the Law abiding citizens with No Criminal Record, That Pass a Full Federal Background check when Purchasing a gun, all go crazy and decide to all break there life position of being Law abiding citizens, and all at the same time that goes through the federal data base to be approved. This guessing game HLS is playing is currently and apparently, the only way that the “educated” (LOL), Homeland Security Brass have to roughly determine a “civil Unrest” worse case scenario.
What about the way they order different calibers of ammunition/bullets you ask?,.. Well all that info is determined by what weapons that homeland security has. here is the ammo list:
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/President/US/Barack_Obama/Scandals/Ammo_Purchases/
Remember the 7000 223 ammunition capable ar-15 fully auto they just ordered,..
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=19ae9f4fa8037cd6a110b201ce3e360b
The problem with all of this is that the Government has now created a very dangerous and vicious cycle that will not stop unless they pull back there orders immediately!
Obama/ Biden and Dianne Feinstein threatened that they will ban peoples guns, and at the same time Homeland security already ordered ammo to make up for 10 years all at once, for an Emergency that does not exist, and they created, BRILLIANT!?!
Hence,..Law abiding Civilian people buying every gun they Can.
So then Homeland security sees the number of guns sold and says,..
“We still have to buy 100 bullets for every gun sold to civilians to stay up to pace with our imagined worst case scenario!”
Which when ordered takes precedence over the civilian populations supply of ammunition again,.. which then depletes the civilian populations access to ammunition,.. So they Hoard all the ammo they can find again! People immediately go out and buy ammo that cannot be produced as fast as civilians are now buying it at the same time that Homeland security is buying it, that and Homeland securities orders take precedence over civilian supply first. Shelves are then empty, that creates people panic buying because it is not available, which causes people to hoard ammo, because of the fear they will not be able to get it, and in-turn buy as many guns as they can because they think the government is now trying to have stop having guns and ammunition available for civilians to buy!
Not to mention you have the CEO of Walmart by the balls because you caught him bribing Mexico, (Federal offense!) so he stopped supplying his stores, with Guns and ammo because the White house apparently doesn’t have enough to worry about!?!,. and that causes more problems when the largest supplier of guns and ammo cuts off the population!!! THAT’S real smart thinking there!?!
(DUMB ASSES!)
The only way to stop this easily, is for the government agencies to immediately reduce their orders of ammunition by at least 50%, so the civilian supply of ammunition can catch up to demand! This will in-turn, after a month or two reduce hording and bulk purchases every time someone gets a paycheck! and will reduce the panic buying of every gun on the shelf to start the cycle all over again!
Hello, is there anyone seeing this getting out of control real quick!?!
You already have a large population that lost there jobs, then their houses, then there savings, retires cant even afford medicine and food they have to pick one! Now you are going to threaten to take away their liberty, freedom, and there constitutional RIGHTS!?! You create a scenario where you panic the Law abiding population and people, by words and actions that you are going to take away there way of protecting their families and what they have left!?!?!
Knowing that 80% of the population has firearms, and has horded guns and ammunition for the last year,..
How’s this picture looking now???
Typo on bullet story
November 30, 1998 thru December 31, 2012,.. 160,474,702 million Background Checks were performed.
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammuni…
If we go by this schedule, me not knowing if this was approved background checks, or all checks performed approved or not. Personally I think this above number included all guns sold, with some background checks being more than one purchased at the same time. (I cannot confirm this, I don’t have access to this info)
**************************************************
**TYPO,(“approximately 160 Million Background”)***
Total= approximately 1.6 Million Background/guns
TYPO ABOVE**************************************** sold. Which = 100 bullets multiplied by guns sold = 1.6 Billion bullets.
Gun culture vs. the culture of dependency!
Gun culture vs. the culture of dependency
By: Jarrett Stepman, 2/10/2013 (exerts)
The architect of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, George Mason, once wrote of the need to include the individual right to bear arms in the Constitution at the Virginia Ratifying Convention, “When the Resolution of ENSLAVING AMERICA was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was Advised by an Artful man, who was Governor of Pennsylvania, TO DISARM THE PEOPLE.” http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/print_documents/a1_8_12s27.html
What Americans, and especially those who still cling to the Constitution and the Second Amendment especially, must understand is that the debate over gun control is about principles much deeper than discussions about ammunition capacity and the rate of fire of modern weaponry.
The debate over gun control is, at its core, a larger conflict over culture and an individual’s relation to government. It is a culture war between those who value independence and individual liberty and those that value community coercion and dependence on the government.
The real agenda of the Left and those who are pushing for tighter gun control is, if you follow the reasoning of their philosophy, is to Take Away All Guns from Americans.
At least some on the Left are honest in their intention, such as this writer on the DailyKos: “If we passed a law tomorrow banning all firearms, we would have massive noncompliance. What we need to do is establish the regulatory and informational institutions first.”
“STUDIES have SHOWN that CITIES and COUNTRIES with the HIGHEST AMOUNT of MURDERS are ONES with the MOST RESTRICTIVE GUN BANS and that MOST of the famous SHOOTING SPREES have taken place in GUN-FREE ZONES!” (50 out of 51!)” http://theacru.org/acru/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/
But these facts are ultimately meaningless for those with a liberal worldview.
Modern day liberals value community over INDIVIDUALISM AND INDEPENDENCE; material Equality over INDIVIDUAL ACHIEVEMENT; Security over SELF-GOVERNMENT. Restricting the RIGHTS and LIBERTIES of INDIVIDUALS, even fundamental ones like GUN OWNERSHIP, is of little consequence if they see it as carrying out a positive social good.
CONSERVATIVES FUNDAMENTALLY REJECT THE BELIEF THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN OR EVEN SHOULD ENSURE THEIR SAFETY AND WELL BEING.
“AS GERALD FORD Once Said:
“A GOVERNMENT BIG ENOUGH TO GIVE YOU EVERYTHING YOU WANT,.. IS A GOVERNMENT BIG ENOUGH TO TAKE FROM YOU EVERYTHING YOU HAVE!”
Gun ownership is about Self-Reliance and Independence, the values that represent the core ideals of the nation’s founding and key elements of American exceptional-ism. These American values are wrapped up in America’s founding doctrines which have been intertwined in American culture. They are part of what Guns and Patriots writer, Brian Vanyo, so ably described as “The American creed.” http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/01/the-origin-of-the-american-creed/
Ultimately, taking away firearms from law-abiding citizens is stripping them of their independence and there ability for self-defense.
The Left fears American Individualist Instincts and blames capitalism for gun violence.
The debate over gun control is a culture war between those who VALUE INDEPENDENCE and INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY and those that value Community Coercion and Dependence on the Government.
Liberals would rather prohibit guns to all individuals, dangerous criminals or NOT, because they trust their own lives and safety in the hands of others rather than themselves. When there is danger they look to the government for help, and if it doesn’t help?,.. there are simply no alternatives but to be at the mercy of circumstances and evil!
Conservatives know that The Ultimate Guarantee Against Evil and Tyranny is INDIVIDUAL EMPOWERMENT and the ABILITY TO DEFEND ONESELF, through force if necessary.
It is a BATTLE Between SELF RELIANCE and Government Control, FREEDOM and SLAVERY!
A world where law-abiding citizens have a right to their own self-defense, or where evil may triumph because good men can do nothing.
FULL STORY:
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/10/gun-culture-vs-the-culture-of-dependency/
Sandyhook Father, “Enforce current laws! No More new Gun laws!”
Published on Jan 28, 2013
Mark Mattioli, father of the one of the Newtown Sandy Hook shooting victims, testifies before a gun violence task force in Hartford, Connecticut on 1/28/2013.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fqpzOSYqX3c
QUOTE:
“I am a big Proponent of Individual accountability, and Enforcement! So, If there are going to be laws, we should enforce them!,.. Chicago has some of the toughest Gun laws in the country, and I would say,.. I don’t think that Gun Laws are protecting the people, let alone the 500 who perished (their) last year, in that city!
What have those laws done to make Chicago a safer city!? NOTHING I PROPOSE! Can’t we do better? YES!
Criminals by definition, break the law!,.. Is one more law… I DON”T CARE IF YOU NAMED it James’s LAW, (after his dead 6yr old son), I DON”T WANT IT! I think we have more than enough laws on the books, We should hold people individual accountable for there actions, and we should enforce laws appropriately, and I would say we are not currently enforcing the laws appropriately!”
Byback, Worthless Costly Broken Idea!, THAT DOESENT WORK!
Gun buy back programs may make people “feel good” but there is NO EVIDENCE that they work at all at reducing crime. (In FACT there is MORE Information PROVING they don’t work!) If anything they are conditioning law abiding citizens to turn in firearms that very rarely have any chance of being used in a crime. Many are antiques or family heirlooms that probably have no business being turned over to unappreciative (DIM WHITED!) state and local governments.
Just recently NPR interviewed the Santa Fe Police Chief Raymond Rael, see full transcript HERE
http://www.npr.org/2013/01/12/169209919/gun-buyback-programs-tend-to-attract-low-risk-groups.
Jon Vernick is the associate professor of health policy and management at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, and co-director of the Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.
VERNICK: What we’ve learned is that high-risk people don’t tend to participate. The folks who are at highest risk for being either a victim or a perpetrator of gun violence are young males. But disproportionately, the people who participate in these buybacks tend to be older; they tend to be female. On top of that, the guns that get turned in don’t tend to be the high-risk guns. The high-risk guns for street crime tend to be newer; they tend to be high-caliber, semiautomatic pistols; they tend to be functional. The guns that disproportionately get turned in, in buybacks, tend to be older; they tend to be revolvers, lower caliber; and worst of all, often they’re broken. So there isn’t good reason to expect, unfortunately, that these gun-buyback programs are likely to reduce street crime.
RAEL: Well, in reality, probably not. Anyone who is serious about stealing a weapon, and using it in a criminal act, isn’t likely to turn it in. But we do anticipate that there will be some weapons turned in by members of the general public who have either inherited weapons, or are concerned about leaving weapons in their homes – loaded or unloaded – and just feel they no longer have any use for them.
(I’m Questioning and wondering what ‘reality’ Chief Raymond Rael does live in!?, and somebody is actually paying this guy?)
It is amazing that government resources, time, and tax payer money are being spent on feel-good USELESS programs as stated above that DO NOTHING TO REDUCE CRIME!
Let’s review:
1- the guns being turned in are old and many are broken.
2- the high risk guns are not the ones being turned in and lastly
3- the high risk people don’t tend to participate!!
Unbelievable, but yet we all feel so good taking part in an exercise of futility and it’s all paid for by us the taxpayer. DON’T YOU FEEL SAFE NOW!?!?!
Just today Sunday Feb. 10th in the Albuquerque Journal there is an article in Section B by Patrick Lohman titled, “300 GUNS GONE” about the gun buy back program that was held in Bernalillo County county and co-sponsored by Albuquerque Metro Crime Stoppers in conjunction with the Bernalillo County Sheriff’s office. The mention how they gave out $40,000 in gift cards to people turning in their guns.
Who’s paying for ALL those gift cards? Is that taxpayer money? Seems that $40,000 could have been spent on something that would actually do something to reduce crime!
JN Felon Next Door, WHY DOESN’T JN REPORT ON THIS!?!?
WHY DOESN’T JN REPORT ON THIS!?!?
Criminals and Felons committing gun and violent crimes continue to be released into our neighborhoods to prey on Law Abiding Citizens by Lenient and Liberal Leaning Judges.
Our criminal defense system is like Swiss Cheese, filled with holes, LETTING CRIMINALS GO FREE and yet Gun Grabbing IDIOT Politicians continue to make guns the issue BY TAKING THEM AWAY FROM LAW ABIDING CITIZENS!?!? NOT TO MENTION,.. Violence in ALL NEWS media forms has accelerated at alarming rates with no end in sight!
If you REALLY WANT A WAKE UP CALL,.. see where the REAL MONSTERS live right around the corner from YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN!! GO to FAMILY WATCHDOG
http://www.familywatchdog.us/default.asp
and look-up by city, zip code all the FELONS living right next to YOU for free! I Don’t think any of them will be participating in these Foolish and Misguided Gun buyback programs! Maybe if some of these NAIVE NY LIBERALS checked this website first they would think twice about disarming themselves, and TRYING TO TAKE GUNS AWAY FROM LAW ABIDING CITEZENS. Another great website is CriminalCheck.com,
http://www.criminalcheck.com/
This is a Serious WAKE UP CALL, that is proof positive that our LIBERAL LEANING judicial system is a mess! GO AFTER THE CRIMINALS THAT COMMIT CRIMES NOT THE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS TO PROTECT THERE FAMILY, SELF, AND COMMUNITY!
NY Gun Loving Grassroots Organizations Unite in New York!
Gun loving Grassroots Organizations in New York Unite! Gun loving grassroots in New York,
By: Raquel Okyay 2/10/2013, Growing discontent for New York’s latest gun control law creates major resistance from grassroots activists, who are fighting back.
“THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS THE ABSOLUTE BULWARK OF THE CONSTITUTION. iT STANDS BETWEEN FREEDOM AND OPPRESSION,” says Carl R. Gottstein, Jr. of Rensellear County, New York.
He asks, “IF THE GOVERNMENT CAN DISARM US, WHAT STOPS THEM FROM TELLING US TO SHUT UP AND GET ON THE TRAIN?” (NEVER FORGET!)
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_415961955_n.jpg
Moderator of the worldwide group PATRIOT ACTION NETWORK, Gottstein told Human Events that social media, particularly Facebook, Twitter and Ning has opened the door to a truth spreading medium that has brought together tens of thousands of activists across the state reaching up to five million people.
Gottstein said, “Free people at last have the tools, ability and duty to stop the progressive agenda that is destroying America. We are hard at work chipping a way to a new cornerstone of freedom,” he continued, “What we do in the morning is what the news is talking about at night.”
When asked about the speedy passage of the SAFE Act, Gottstein said, “The SAFE Act was quickly passed without the usual three-day public input rule. The Governor pushed it through calling it a Necessity of Emergency yet there is nothing in the SAFE Act that takes effect immediately,” he said.
“Show us the emergency provisions and immediate emergency action?” Gottstein said there is none, making the SAFE Act an unprecedented power snatch for strictly political purposes.
Russ Thompson a US Army Veteran and founder of TEA New York along with his members have been active in bringing people together in Western New York for close to eight years. “We started the tax revolt movement in 2006, and we haven’t stopped,” he said.
“We keep fighting for the Constitution, transparency, liberty and honesty. We reject excessive taxation and regulation,” he said.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_415961955_n.jpg
(NEVER FORGET!)
According to Thompson both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of moving away from the Constitution to suit their own interests. “The SAFE Act is a prime example.”
“I have seen the corruption first hand. The politicians live in their own bubble – out of touch with the electorate,” he said.
“We effect change by starting at the town board level, to the county level, to the state level,” he said.
“January 19 was supposed to be a rally in support of National Gun Appreciation Day at Niagara Square in Buffalo, then the law changed, and our event turned into a protest,” said the community organizer. “IT TOOK A LIFE OF IT’S OWN!”
“PEOPLE WERE SHOWING UP IN DROVES!,” he said.
Thompson told Human Events that New Yorkers are infuriated and fed up with a state government that is manipulating our rights for personal gain. “This issue stretches across political party lines. We may disagree with a lot of the issues that Occupy West New York asserts, but we are on the same page when it comes to the Second Amendment.”
“New York State is ground zero – the testing ground for what can happen to each state in the union,” he said.
Judy Pepenella has been involved in community activism for her entire adult life. She tells Human Events that she has been hollering, discussing and posing questions to local officials for many years. She is from Hauppauge, New York.
Pepenella’s group, the CONSERVATIVE SOCIETY FOR ACTION, has 5,500 members that stretch throughout the entire country. However their focus is on Long Island politics in the State of New York.
“WE MUST STAND UP AND FIGHT THIS UNLAWFUL GRAB OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IN THE COURTS, ON THE STREETS, AND AT THE BALLOT BOX!”
says Gottstein, who is an impact player at New York’s capitol.
“The Long Island delegation which includes Republican and Conservative party representatives, grassroots activists, the liberty and tea party movements, hunters, NRA members, people who own guns, and people who do not are united against unconstitutional laws that act as a disservice to the people,” she said.
Pepenella said, “We are unified in a way that I never expected.
http://www.humanevents.com/2013/02/10/okyay-gun-loving-grassroots-in-new-york/
NEVER FORGET!
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Train Picture from Germany
On 30 January 1933 Adolf Hitler was made Chancellor of Germany. Franz von Papen had persuaded President Hindenburg that Hitler could be kept under control.
However, 24 hours after taking office, Hitler called for new elections to be held on 5 March 1933. Very soon after Hitler persuaded President Hindenburg to give him emergency powers that took away people’s rights. On 24 March 1933, the Reichstag passed an ‘ENABLING LAW’, GIVING the NAZIS PARTY the POWER TO MAKE LAWS WITHOUT PARLIAMENTARY APPROVAL!
(Obama/ Biden, “Executive Orders”, Usurping Congress, sound familiar!?)
The Nazis very quickly began a campaign of violence and terror against Communists and other opponents. Their campaign also involved banning opposition newspapers, leaflets and meetings. The Nazis’ campaign also involved anti-communist and antisemitic propaganda, using the radio, newspapers, leaflets, rallies and all other methods at their disposal.
Once the Nazis had developed a series of policies and measures that enabled them to consolidate power over Germany.These events were only a hint of things to come.
Alaska NO! to Obama gun control!
Alaska jumps into fight over gun rights!
http://www.newsminer.com/news/alaska_news/article_4b01264e-73ab-11e2-bc7c-001a4bcf6878.html
77% say NO to Obama gun control!, 81% say No Infringement!!
Over 1,000,000 People have taken this survey so far, from across the US online, and 77% of people say NO, a resounding NO!, to Obama, Biden gun Control!
After the Newtown, Connecticut school shooting, President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden have indicated the Obama administration will push for more federal gun control.
Newsmax is conducting an urgent online poll about President Obama’s gun control plans.
Newsmax will provide the results of this poll to major media outlets. Newsmax’s results also will be shared with popular radio talk-show hosts across America.
Newsmax reports have been cited by major outlets, including CNN, ABC News, Fox News, CBS, MSNBC, and other major networks.
Hundreds of media outlets have reported on Newsmax’s online polls.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/GunControl/Should-Obama-Increase-Federal-Gun-Control-/id/64/kw/default#ixzz2KYxlN0ba
WAKE UP, LOOK IT UP!
Should President Obama Start Federal Gun Control?
Questions and responses are as follows:
Should the federal government regulate guns of any type?
Yes, it should……. 288,652(28%),
No, it should not… 721,917(71%)
Should Congress ban semi-automatic weapons?
Yes, it should……. 230,667(22%)
No, it should not… 787,547(77%)
If Congress does not act, should President Obama use an executive order to ban or strictly control the sale of semi-automatic weapons?
Yes, he should……. 209,736(20%)
No, he should not… 807,122(79%)
Do you agree that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to own and bear guns without infringement?
Yes, I agree………. 825,998(81%)
No, I don’t agree… 191,567(18%)
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/Results/id/64#ixzz2KYxJalC1
http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/Results/id/64
77% NO !NO! ,.. NO to Obama gun control!
Over 1,000,000 People have taken this survey so far, from across the US online, and 77% of people say NO, a resounding NO!, to Obama, Biden gun Control!
After the Newtown, Connecticut school shooting, President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden have indicated the Obama administration will push for more federal gun control.
Newsmax is conducting an urgent online poll about President Obama’s gun control plans.
Newsmax will provide the results of this poll to major media outlets. Newsmax’s results also will be shared with popular radio talk-show hosts across America.
Newsmax reports have been cited by major outlets, including CNN, ABC News, Fox News, CBS, MSNBC, and other major networks.
Hundreds of media outlets have reported on Newsmax’s online polls.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/GunControl/Should-Obama-Increase-Federal-Gun-Control-/id/64/kw/default#ixzz2KYxlN0ba
WAKE UP and LOOK IT UP!
Should President Obama Start Federal Gun Control?
Questions and responses are as follows:
Should the federal government regulate guns of any type?
Yes, it should……. 288,652(28%),
No, it should not… 721,917(71%)
Should Congress ban semi-automatic weapons?
Yes, it should……. 230,667(22%)
No, it should not… 787,547(77%)
If Congress does not act, should President Obama use an executive order to ban or strictly control the sale of semi-automatic weapons?
Yes, he should……. 209,736(20%)
No, he should not… 807,122(79%)
Do you agree that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to own and bear guns without infringement?
Yes, I agree………. 825,998(81%)
No, I don’t agree… 191,567(18%)
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/Results/id/64#ixzz2KYxJalC1
http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/Results/id/64
More Guns in US = Fewer Murders! READ THE REPORT!!
MORE GUNS IN US = FEWER MURDERS!
US HIGH IN GUN OWNERSHIP and LOW IN MURDER RATE!
http://www.newsmax.com/InsiderReport/More-Guns-in-US/2013/02/09/id/489645
Several reports on gun ownership around the world clearly refute the assertion that the abundance of guns in the United States leads to a high rate of firearm homicides.
Americans are the biggest gun owners by far, with an estimated 270 million civilian firearms, in addition to those used by law enforcement and the military. That’s according to the Small Arms Survey of 178 nations conducted by the Switzerland-based Graduate Institute of International and Development Studies.
In sheer numbers of civilian firearms, the No. 2 nation, surprisingly, is India with 46 million, followed by China (40 million), Germany (25 million), Pakistan (18 million), and Mexico (15 million).
The United States also leads in gun ownership rate, with about 88 firearms per 100 people, according to the most recent Small Arms Survey compiled in 2007.
That is far ahead of No. 2 Yemen, which has 55 firearms per 100 people. Switzerland is third with 46 per 100 people, followed by Finland (45), Serbia (38), Cyprus (36), Saudi Arabia (35), and Iraq (34).
But when it comes to the firearm homicide rate, the United States doesn’t even make the top 25.
According to figures collected by the United Nations’ Office on Drugs and Crime through its annual crime survey, 9,146 Americans were victims of a firearm homicide in the most recent year. That translates to a rate of 2.97 firearm homicides per 100,000 population, only the 27th highest rate in the world.
The highest rate by far can be found in Honduras, 68 homicides per 100,000, followed by El Salvador (40), Jamaica (39), Venezuela (38.9), Guatemala (34), and Colombia (27).
For America’s neighbors, the rate in Mexico is 9.9 per 100,000, and in Canada, 0.5 per 100,000.
It is interesting to note that not only does the United States have a relatively low homicide rate compared to its gun ownership rate, but Switzerland, which ranks third in the civilian gun ownership rate, has only the 46th highest homicide rate, and Finland, with the fourth highest ownership rate, is 63rd on the list.
“The most obnoxious liberal talking points on guns involve the idea that guns, in and of themselves, cause gun violence,” writes CNS News commentator Stephen Gutowski. “In other words, more guns must mean more gun violence.”
But in light of the ownership and homicide figures, he observes: “More guns do not, in fact, mean more gun violence. Guns can be, and commonly are, used in a responsible manner, especially here in the United States.”
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/InsiderReport/More-Guns-in-US/2013/02/09/id/489645#ixzz2KYszMzCX
http://www.newsmax.com/InsiderReport/More-Guns-in-US/2013/02/09/id/489645
Ms. Cynthia (CynDEE) Royle-Keenan-Lambert… Enjoy
For your Entertainment Pleasure, I give you “Public Records” and Public Information on:
Ms. Cynthia (CynDEE) Royle-Keenan-Lambert (and family)
Ms. CynDEE Royle-Keenan-Lambert, I hear some of your own family and friends were not real happy with you for placing them in the public spotlight and making them paranoid (like you did so many families, mothers, fathers and children after your Cute Little Stunt to make the Journal more sales).
“As You Sow, So Shall You Reap” Ms. Royle. Enjoy ;P
The information provided is as accurate as possible. We make no guarantees that all information is 100% correct as this information is based off of Public Information and Public Records sites. It’s definitely a lot more accurate than the “Current” Registered Pistol Owner information the Trolls at the Journal News Posted.
We don’t care if you have finally taken your map down Journal News – Gannett. You have done your damage and you committed the same act upon Law-Abiding United States Citizens in 2006, so you will obviously do this again.
So… consider this post #2 with many more to come. You in the News Business may refer to this as “Sweeps Week” or Part 2 of a Multi-Part Investigation. Enjoy:
The formatting may not be the best but… here it comes.
Cynthia Lambert (and family) Summary:
Cynthia R Lambert – Date of Birth: February 18, 1958
Middle initial “R” stands for RatBa$turd
Not Really, although I have seen “D.” for a middle initial so “R.” may have referred to Royle?
Cynthia R Lambert
17 Mcbride Ave
White Plains, NY 10603 (914) 948-9388
Work: 914-694-5001
Cynthia’s Family (I’ll bet your family is happy that you assisted in posting the registered gun owner map now):
Stephen J. Lambert (Cynthia’s Ex-husband)
Max Lambert (Cynthia’s son) – Does anyone know Max’s Birthday (could possibly be some good info here that Miss CynDEE doesn’t want getting out)
Richard Pearson Royle (Cynthia’s Father) – DOB:
Letitia B. Royle (Cynthia’s Mother) – DOB: September 12, 1938
Both parents live in Broadkill Beach Delaware (VERY NICE PLACE!) – CynDEE’s got an “Extra” House there too!!
Sandra Lee Mummert (Cynthia’s Sister) – DOB: April 4, 1960 ?
Richard Pearson Royle 2nd (Cynthia’s Brother)
By the way CynDEE… I found all of this information well before you decided to Pop back out of the Rat Hole you hid yourself and your Facebook page in. You do leave a very easy trail to follow. Hahahahahahaha : )
You’ll see this first address again further down along with a Google Map Link because I believe she still has residence there:
ADDRESS 1:
109 Louisiana Ave
Milton, DE 19968
ADDRESS 2:
30408 Louisiana Ave
Milton, DE 19968
ADDRESS 3:
803 Naudine Ave
Claymont, DE 19703
Westchester Records Online:
http://wro.westchesterclerk.com/legalsearch.aspx
PLAINTIFFS Address Address (2) City State ZIP
STEPHEN J LAMBERT
DEFENDANTS Address Address (2) City State ZIP
CYNTHIA R LAMBERT
Index Number Index Type Kind Description File Date
SU-1996-002392 COURT RECORDS INDEX APP 4/26/1996
Transaction Date Time Description Amount Comment Image(s)
4/26/1996 CONVERTED 0.00 SEPARATION AGREEMENT CC Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 SUMMONS WITH NOTICE Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 VERIFIED COMPLAINT Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 STATEMENT OF NET WORTH Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 STATEMENT OF NET WORTH Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 SEPARATION AGREEMENT Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 AFFIDAVIT IN SUPPORT Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 FINDINGS AND FACTS-B76 P2849 Unavailable
7/23/1997 CONVERTED 0.00 MATRIMONIAL JUDGMENT-B76 P2852 Unavailable
SU-1985-004279 COURT RECORDS INDEX APP [Kind: 110 ] 7/10/1985
PLAINTIFFS Address Address (2) City State ZIP
LEE MUCHNIKOFF
DEFENDANTS Address Address (2) City State ZIP
CYNTHIA LAMBERT
HILLARY M LAMBERT
Cynthia Royle
Mt. Pleasant High School
wilmington, DE
Class of 1975
Other Communities:
Concord High School (1975-1975)
San Bernadino Civil Court:
Date: August 17, 2006
Case# SBF SS095051
Defendant: Karima B Lambert
Plaintiffs: Stephen J. Lambert (Cynthia’s Ex-husband)
San Bernadino Civil Court:
Date: June 16, 2004
Case# SBF SS80389
Each are listed as Plaintiff and Defendant: Cynthia R. Lambert, Stephen J. Lambert
Richard Royle (Cynthia’s Father):
Richard Royle’s Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/richard.royle.56#!/richard.royle.56
Both Cynthia Lambert and Max Lambert are listed under Richards’ Friends
Letitia Royle Addresses (Present and Past):
ADDRESS 1:
619 Oak Shadow Dr
New Johnsonville, TN 37134
ADDRESS 2:
109 Louisiana Ave
Milton, DE 19968
ADDRESS 3:
803 Naudain Ave
Claymont, DE 19703
Letitia and Richard’s current house:
109 Louisiana Avenue Milton, DE 19968
New Castle County, Delaware – http://www.nccde.org
Cynthia and Stephen’s old (Prior) address:
201 SOUTH RD WILMINGTON, DE 19809
Subdivision: LINDAMERE
Sale Date: 5/12/1989
Sale Amount: $189,900
More goodies about Cynthia’s Family’s House Buying and Selling Habits:
http://de.blockshopper.com/search?classes=Sale&q=Letitia+B+Royle
** Must be nice to have so much money that everyone in the family can buy houses near the water (Delaware Bay / Atlantic Ocean). Oh Wait, CynDEE probably bought it with some of that “Judas Money” she got for selling out her fellow Americans to sell more copies of the Journal. That’s Right! Now it all makes sense (CynDEE Judas Royle-Lambert). My question is, how the hell were you able to buy 3 houses with the address of 109 and they are almost all side by side (from street next to stree)?? Damn you must gots lots of mooooneey!!
A nice Google Maps Overhead View of One of CynDEE’s Houses and her parents house, etc…
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.41934586,d.b2I&biw=1600&bih=720&wrapid=tlif136011259656110&q=109+Louisiana+Ave+Milton,+DE+19968&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x89b8bb0a39a5b51b:0x995827c01d557f8b,109+Louisiana+Ave,+Milton,+DE+19968&gl=us&sa=X&ei=-qsRUdriCcaWqAG86oHYCg&ved=0CC0Q8gEwAA
109 Louisiana Avenue
Buyer:Richard P Royle II
Seller:Letitia B Royle and Richard P Royle
109 New Mexico Avenue
Buyer:Sandra Lee Mummert
Seller:Letitia B Royle and Richard P Royle
109 Mississippi Avenue
Buyer:Cynthia D Lambert
Seller:Letitia B Royle and Richard P Royle
1007 Louisiana Avenue
Buyer:David Joseph Anderson and Jamie Lee Anderson
Seller:Sandra Lee Mummert, Letitia B Royle and Richard P Royle
109 New Mexico Avenue
Buyer:David Joseph Anderson and Jamie Lee Anderson
Seller:Sandra Lee Mummert, Letitia B Royle and Richard P Royle
Stephen Lambert (Cynthia’s Ex-husband) – Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/stevelambert2020/info#!/stevelambert2020
About Stephen (although Stephen forgot to notate it in his History List, he had been freed of a Great Burden in 1997 when he Divorced that Hypocrite “Judas” Editor for the Journal News, Cynthia “Rat” Lambert, I would have listed that life-changing event in ALL CAPS):
The 20/20 Network
Partner • Upland, California • 2011 to present
We’re a Southern California-based strategic communications firm specializing in media relations, community outreach, public policy and social media. The company was founded by my old buddy, Tim Gallagher, in 2007, and we’re having a blast helping our clients manage their messaging and navigate today’s increasingly fragmented multimedia environment. As ex-newspaper editors and publishers, we know how to deliver content that delivers results.
San Gabriel Valley Newspaper Group
Publisher • West Covina, California • Feb 2009 to Sep 2011
Los Angeles Newspaper Group
Vice President, News • Greater Los Angeles Area • Feb 2002 to Sep 2011
San Bernardino Sun
Editor • San Bernardino, California • Feb 2002 to Feb 2009
About
o Life’s fantastic. I’ve got incredible kids (5 of them, can you believe?). I’m married to and inspired by a woman who shows me every day what it’s like — what it’s really like — to love and be loved. “Deana, gracias por salvar mi vida.”
o Lives in Upland, California
History by Year
2011
• Left Job at San Gabriel Valley Newspaper Group
• Left Job at Los Angeles Newspaper Group
• Started Working at The 20/20 Network
2009
o Started Working at San Gabriel Valley Newspaper Group
o Left Job at San Bernardino Sun
2002
o Started Working at Los Angeles Newspaper Group
o Started Working at San Bernardino Sun
o Left Job at The Eagle-Tribune
1999
Started Working at The Eagle-Tribune
1978
Graduated from Southern Illinois University Carbondale
1974
Graduated from St. Charles, Illinois
Relationship Status
Married to Deana Olivares-Lambert
Anniversary: March 27
Stephen Lambert’s Mother – Marie Farrel
Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/marie.farrel#!/marie.farrel/info
Lives in Port Richey, FloridaFrom Highland Park, Illinois
MAX LAMBERT (Cynthia’s Son)
Max Lambert’s Facebook Page (old school photo)
https://www.facebook.com/max.lambert.75641
Studied at SUNY College at Oneonta
http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/player.html?playerid=119889
Point Streak Baseball
Westchester / Rockland Wood Bat League
#17 Max Lambert – Player Profile
Profile
Position: P
Birthdate:
Hometown: White Plains
Bats/Throws: R/R
Height: 5-9
Weight: 160 lbs
Class: Senior
College: Westchester CC
A whole lot of photos of Max Lambert that were available for view on LoHud’s site (A Gannett Company – The Journal News) have suddenly just DISAPPEARD ?? Now why would a proud and arrogant mom like CynDEE suddenly not want to show off her Pride and Joy after she proudly showed off the addresses and information of Law-Abiding Registered Gun Owners??
Here’s one of the links to the old photos:
http://jukebox.lohud.com/photos/popup/index.php?search=miranda lambert&offset=120
Here’s the caption that was shown with the photo:
White Plains shortstop Max Lambert fields a ground ball during a varsity high school baseball game between New Rochelle High School and White Plains High School at Davis Elementary School field in New Rochelle April 23, 2008. New Rochelle won the game by a score of 7-5. ( Mike Roy / The Journal News )
The Journal News may have deleted all of Max Lambert’s info and pictures off of their publicly viewable site but it’s obvious that they didn’t remove it before I visited. Hehehe : )
More Max Lambert info and links:
http://www.maxpreps.com/athletes/OHnoJCCLCEeD9okbcSb9Zg/baseball-spring-08/stat_comparison-max-lambert.htm
http://wrwbl.vicid.net/hastingslookouts/newsarticle.php?newsid=948
Max Lambert attended Westchester Community College
2009-2010 Pitcher
WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE
BASEBALL II | ROSTER
Steve Lambert #8
PROFILE
Class: Sophomore
Hometown: White Plains, NY
Highschool: White Plains
Height: 170
Position: P
Sussex County Deleware:
http://sussexcountyde.gov/e-service/propertytaxes/
Property Search Results for Richard Royle (which also includes Letitia and Cynthia Lambert):
http://sussexcountyde.gov/e-service/propertytaxes/index.cfm?resource=name_search&CFID=8540331&CFTOKEN=50455282
Property Details
SussexCounty, Delaware
Treasury Division
P.O. Box 429, Georgetown, DE 19947-0429
(302) 855-7760
Tax Summary
Detailed property Information for : 2-35 3.16 22.00
Property Description:
NORTH SHORES
LOT 38 BLK K SEC 1
Deed Book Information:
Deed Book : 3268
Deed Page: 061
Detailed property Information for : 2-35 3.16 23.00
Owners Name(s):
ROYLE
RICHARD P & LETITIA B
Billing Address:
Top of Form
ROYLE
RICHARD P & LETITIA B
Addtional Owners:
CYNTHIA D LAMBERT
REMAINDERMAN
119 LOUISIANA AVE
MILTON , DE 19968
Property Description:
NORTH SHORES
LOT 39 BLK K SEC 1
Deed Book Information:
Deed Book : 3268
Deed Page: 061
Niki Lynne Keenan (Cynthia’s Daughter) – DOB: March 9, 1980
Voter ID: 01084338
Party: Democrat
Registration Date: March 30, 1998
Niki Lynn Keenan’s Facebook Page:
https://www.facebook.com/niki.l.keenan#!/niki.l.keenan
RUTT ROE… Niki’s Daddy is William R. Keenan – Didn’t think I’d catch this one, did you CynDEEEE?
William R. Keenan is at or about 55 years of age.
Niki’s Linkedin Page:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/niki-lynne-keenan/19/317/a52?trk=pub-pbmap
Niki Lynne Keenan’s Overview
Current
• Artist, Visual Art Instructor at The Bronx Charter School for Better Learning
Past
• PreK Teacher at Bedford Discovery School
• Graphic Artist at Averill and Associates
Education
• Manhattanville College
• Fashion Institute of Technology
Connections
56 connections
Niki Lynne Keenan’s Experience
Artist, Visual Art Instructor
The Bronx Charter School for Better Learning
Nonprofit; 51-200 employees; Education Management industry
August 2010– Present (2 years 7 months)The Bronx Charter School for Better Learning
Art teacher, Artist-painting, collage, jewelry-making, graphic design, and random unique projects requested by individuals. Artwork to be posted when collections are ready, and graphic design is freelance. Got a special project and not sure how to do it? Nothing is impossible! Pictures to be posted soon.
PreK Teacher
Bedford Discovery School
2002– 2008 (6 years)
Graphic Artist
Averill and Associates
2000– 2002 (2 years)
Niki Lynne Keenan’s Skills & Expertise
1. Adobe Creative Suite
2. Computer Literate
3. Classroom Management
4. Logo Design/Corprate ID
5. Brochure Layout Design
6. Painting
7. Stop Motion Animation Instructor
Niki Lynne Keenan’s Education
Manhattanville College
MAT,Visual Arts Education
2008 – 2010
Fashion Institute of Technology
BA,Advertising and Design
1998 – 2002
http://www.etsy.com/people/nikilynnekeenan
http://www.genealogy.com/genealogy/users/k/e/e/Niki-L-Keenan/index.html
Niki Lynne Keenan
nikilynk@hotmail.com
Niki’s MySpace Page:
http://www.myspace.com/nikilynk/photos
William R. Keenan and Cynthia Royle KEENAN info:
http://www.ncc-deeds.com/recclkshr/SimpleQuery.asp
Michael E. Kozikowski
New Castle County Recorder of Deeds
NOTE: You MUST have a multiple page TIFF viewer to view these documents. You can use either commercial software or Alternatiff, which is free. Windows users can download it here: http://www.Alternatiff.com
To Manage your account Log in here : https://home.nccde.org
Recorder of Deeds Home : http://nccde.org/deeds
Web Services Detailed Data Results
________________________________________
Instrument: 198001311088805 Volume Page: R92 276 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 1/31/1980 Pages: 4
Document Type: MORTGAGE Consideration: 0
Mortgagor: KEENAN, WILLIAM R / KEENAN, CYNTHIA R
Mortgagee: BANK OF DELAWARE
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 198001311402462 Volume Page: A109 208 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 1/31/1980 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: DOBSON, GEORGE W / DOBSON, ELIZABETH A
Grantee: KEENAN, CYNTHIA R / KEENAN, WILLIAM R
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 198206170265279 Volume Page: T118 78 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 6/17/1982 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: KEENAN, CYNTHIA R / KEENAN, WILLIAM R
Grantee: SIMMONS, ROBERT E
Legal Description:
Marginal:
Parcel # 1700200136
View Map View Tax Bills Buildings/Sketches Recent Sales Tax and Sewer Only
Property Address: 706 BRANDYWINE BL
WILMINGTON, DE 19809-
Subdivision: MONTROSE TERRACE
Owner: ROSENTHAL DANIEL
Owner Address: 706 BRANDYWINE BOULEVARD
WILMINGTON, DE 19809
Municipal Info: Incorporated in BELLFONTE PROPERTY TAX AREA
More Cynthia Royle-Keenan-Lambert Property Goodies (look up Royle and find Cynthia, Letitia, Charles & Charles II) at this link:
http://www.ncc-deeds.com/recclkshr/SimpleQuery.asp
*** Steven M. Howell LIVES WITH CynDEE – Free Milk from the COW (CynDEE that is!!)
At least when CynDEE yells out “Oh Steven” during sex, the “New” Steven can’t tell if CynDEE is thinking about the “Last” Steven. Nice ! Good Thinking Girl !!
Now, don’t go screwin’ this up and accidently yell out “William’s” Name…
Steven M. Howell’s Date of Birth: January 16, 1960
Engineer ?
Voter ID: 97054394
Party: No Party Listed
Registration Date: October 20, 2000
Steve Howell’s Linkedin Page:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/niki-lynne-keenan/19/317/a52?trk=pub-pbmap
Steve Howell’s Overview
Connections
3 connections
Steve Howell’s Additional Information
Groups and Associations:
•
Not sure if this is Steven M Howell but:
9090-08 HOWELL STEVE M FARELLA ANGIE 2008/04/23 Details
Plaintiff: FARELLA ANGIE
Index No: 9090-08
Defendant: HOWELL STEVE M
Add. Info:
Print
Image Index No File Date File Code Description Comments
9090-08 2008/04/23 00 INDEX NUMBER APPLICATION
9090-08 2008/04/23 02 SUMMONS & COMPLAINT
9090-08 2009/05/12 06 RJI
9090-08 2009/06/12 30 DECISION & ORDER DIBELLA
9090-08 2009/06/12 11 MOTION 2
9090-08 2009/06/29 07 NOTE OF ISSUE
9090-08 2009/10/07 40 STIPULATION SO ORDERED (RMD)
9090-08 2009/10/26 40 STIPULATION
9090-08 2010/03/31 19 ANSWER
9090-08 2010/04/23 91 PRELIMINARY CONFERENCE ORDER LEFKOWITZ
9090-08 2010/07/20 35 CONSENT
9090-08 2010/12/10 92 STIPULATION DISCONTINUING ACTION
http://www.ncc-deeds.com/recclkshr/SimpleQuery.asp
Michael E. Kozikowski
New Castle County Recorder of Deeds
NOTE: You MUST have a multiple page TIFF viewer to view these documents. You can use either commercial software or Alternatiff, which is free. Windows users can download it here: http://www.Alternatiff.com
To Manage your account Log in here : https://home.nccde.org
Recorder of Deeds Home : http://nccde.org/deeds
Web Services Detailed Data Results
________________________________________
Instrument: 195810211897826 Volume Page: U62 176 Display Book
Recorded: 10/21/1958 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: DUGAN, ANNA B / DUGAN, FRANCIS
Grantee: ROYLE, RICHARD P / ROYLE, LETITIA
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 196108230679650 Volume Page: F68 41 Display Book
Recorded: 8/23/1961 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: ROYLE, LETITIA / ROYLE, RICHARD P
Grantee: REBURN, AUDREY F / REBURN, PAUL A
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 196109281045118 Volume Page: W55 443 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 9/28/1961 Pages: 3
Document Type: MORTGAGE Consideration: 0
Mortgagor: ROYLE, RICHARD P / ROYLE, LETITIA B
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 196109281995774 Volume Page: L68 77 Display Book
Recorded: 9/28/1961 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: WILKERS, RAYMOND P / WILKERS, VIRGINIA L
Grantee: ROYLE, RICHARD P / ROYLE, LETITIA B
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 196506102379471 Volume Page: B75 686 Display Book
Recorded: 6/10/1965 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: ROYLE, LETITIA B / ROYLE, RICHARD P
Grantee: ROYLE, JOHN CHRISTOPHER
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 196506181608440 Volume Page: F75 191 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 6/18/1965 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: BOWERS, JEANNETTE R / BOWERS, NUEL R
Grantee: ROYLE, LETITIA M / ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 198502281694547 Volume Page: 229 118 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 2/28/1985 Pages: 4
Document Type: MORTGAGE Consideration: 0
Mortgagor: ROYLE, RICHARD P,II
Mortgagee: MERCANTILE MORTGAGE CORPORATION
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 198502282448923 Volume Page: 209 103 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 2/28/1985 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: WILSON, JEAN L
Grantee: ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON,II
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 199111200842968 Volume Page: 2120 264 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 11/20/1991 Pages: 9
Document Type: MORTGAGE Consideration:
Mortgagor: ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON,II
Mortgagee: MERCANTILE MORTGAGE CORPORATION
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 199306110602585 Volume Page: 1536 335 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 6/11/1993 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: BURKE, ROSE M,-EST OF / STANISZEWSKI, ROSEMARY / BURKE, WILLIAM / BURKE, F MICHAEL
Grantee: ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON,II / ROYLE, PATRICIA MARIE
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 199306111245206 Volume Page: 2875 68 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 6/11/1993 Pages: 8
Document Type: MORTGAGE Consideration:
Mortgagor: ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON,II / ROYLE, PATRICIA MARIE
Mortgagee: MAIN LINE FEDERAL SAVINGS BANK
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 199309282246860 Volume Page: 1595 6 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 9/28/1993 Pages: 3 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON,II
Grantee: GALE, JENNIFER L
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 199407071833802 Volume Page: 1766 153 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 7/7/1994 Pages: 2 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON / ROYLE, LETITIA B
Grantee: MANERCHIA, PAULA F
Legal Description:
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 199903250366460 Volume Page: 2611 254 Purchase Copy
Recorded: 3/25/1999 Pages: 4 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration: 0
Grantor: LAMBERT, STEPHEN J / LAMBERT, CYNTHIA R / ROYLE, CYNTHIA,-AKA
Grantee: VOLKO, BARBARA
Legal Description: /
Marginal:
________________________________________
Instrument: 200204020031494 Volume Page: Purchase Copy
Recorded: 4/2/2002 1:21:05 PM Pages: 4 ParcelView
Document Type: DEED Consideration:
Grantor: ROYLE, RICHARD PEARSON,II / ROYLE, PATRICIA MARIE
Grantee: HAYES, ROGER C / SHAW, BARBARA J
Legal Description: Sub: BELLEVUE HILLS, Lt: 7, Ward: BRANDYWINE, PrpId: 0612400015
Marginal:
New Castle County, Delaware
“The First County in the First State”
Parcel # 0608300080
Property Address: 803 NAUDAIN AV
CLAYMONT, DE 19703-
Subdivision: NORTHRIDGE
Owner: MANERCHIA PAULA F
Owner Address: 803 NAUDAIN AVE
CLAYMONT, DE 19703
Permit History
A/P No. Permit Type Status
Details
200010863 HVAC PERMIT Closed
Zoning
• NC6.5 – UDC – SINGLE FAMILY – 6500 SF
Sales History
Owner Deed Current Owner? Multi? Sale Date Sale Amount
ROYLE RICHARD P & LETICIA M F75 191 N N Not Available $0.00
MANERCHIA PAULA F 1766 153 Y N 6/30/1994 $125,000.00
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Parcel # 0805530128
Property Address: 232 GREEN LA
NEWARK, DE 19711-
Subdivision: GREEN VALLEY 1
Owner: JONES THOMAS A
Owner Address: 232 GREEN LANE
NEWARK, DE 19711
Street Finish:
Permit History
A/P No. Permit Type Status
Details
200509777 RES PLUMB & HEAT REPLACEMENT Closed
Details
1348 RESIDENTIAL ADDITION Closed
• NCPUD – UDC – PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
Sales History
Owner Deed Current Owner? Multi? Sale Date Sale Amount
N N 10/1/1980 $44,400.00
ROYLE RICHARD P II 209 103 N N 2/1/1985 $62,800.00
GALE JENNIFER L 1595 6 N N 9/13/1993 $97,000.00
JONES THOMAS A 2714 137 Y N 9/20/1999 $107,900.00
Parcel # 0612400015
Property Address: 504 BELLEVUE RD
WILMINGTON, DE 19809-
Subdivision: BELLEVUE HILLS
Owner: HAYES ROGER C & SHAW BARBARA J
Owner Address: 504 BELLEVUE ROAD
WILMINGTON, DE 19809
• NC15 – UDC – SINGLE FAMILY – 15000 SF
Sales History
Owner Deed Current Owner? Multi? Sale Date Sale Amount
BURKE ROSE K 0 0 N Y Not Available $0.00
STANISZEWSKI ROSEMARY WR102321 N N 6/8/1992 $0.00
ROYLE RICHARD P II & PATRICIA 1536 335 N N 6/10/1993 $158,000.00
HAYES ROGER C & SHAW BARBARA J 20020402 0031494 Y N 4/2/2002 $225,000.00
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Parcel # 0805530128
Property Address: 232 GREEN LA
NEWARK, DE 19711-
Subdivision: GREEN VALLEY 1
Owner: JONES THOMAS A
Owner Address: 232 GREEN LANE
NEWARK, DE 19711
• NCPUD – UDC – PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
Sales History
Owner Deed Current Owner? Multi? Sale Date Sale Amount
N N 10/1/1980 $44,400.00
ROYLE RICHARD P II 209 103 N N 2/1/1985 $62,800.00
GALE JENNIFER L 1595 6 N N 9/13/1993 $97,000.00
JONES THOMAS A 2714 137 Y N 9/20/1999 $107,900.00
Parcel # 0608300080
Property Address: 803 NAUDAIN AV
CLAYMONT, DE 19703-
Subdivision: NORTHRIDGE
Owner: MANERCHIA PAULA F
Owner Address: 803 NAUDAIN AVE
CLAYMONT, DE 19703
• NC6.5 – UDC – SINGLE FAMILY – 6500 SF
Sales History
Owner Deed Current Owner? Multi? Sale Date Sale Amount
ROYLE RICHARD P & LETICIA M F75 191 N N Not Available $0.00
MANERCHIA PAULA F 1766 153 Y N 6/30/1994 $125,000.00
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Property Address: 201 SOUTH RD
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Subdivision: LINDAMERE
Owner: DICKEY JASON W & MEGAN L
Owner Address: 201 SOUTH RD
WILMINGTON, DE 19809
• NC6.5 – UDC – SINGLE FAMILY – 6500 SF
Sales History
Owner Deed Current Owner? Multi? Sale Date Sale Amount
N N 4/1/1980 $67,000.00
N N 4/1/1981 $72,250.00
TAMBLYN WILLIAM H & KAREN D 579 109 N N 8/1/1987 $162,500.00
LAMBERT STEPHEN J & CYNTHIA R 871 144 N N 5/12/1989 $189,900.00
VOLKO BARBARA 2611 254 N N 7/22/1998 $170,000.00
VOLKO ROBERT F JR & BARBARA T 20021230 0123948 N N 12/18/2002 $10.00
DICKEY JASON W & MEGAN L 20040929 0107039 Y N 9/28/2004 $10.00
Parcel # 0612400015
Property Address: 504 BELLEVUE RD
WILMINGTON, DE 19809-
Subdivision: BELLEVUE HILLS
Owner: HAYES ROGER C & SHAW BARBARA J
Owner Address: 504 BELLEVUE ROAD
WILMINGTON, DE 19809
• NC15 – UDC – SINGLE FAMILY – 15000 SF
Sales History
Owner Deed Current Owner? Multi? Sale Date Sale Amount
BURKE ROSE K 0 0 N Y Not Available $0.00
STANISZEWSKI ROSEMARY WR102321 N N 6/8/1992 $0.00
ROYLE RICHARD P II & PATRICIA 1536 335 N N 6/10/1993 $158,000.00
HAYES ROGER C & SHAW BARBARA J 20020402 0031494 Y N 4/2/2002 $225,000.00
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Michael E. Kozikowski
New Castle County Recorder of Deeds
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As I stated in my prior post:
All of this information came from “Public Records” Cynthia (CynDEE) Royle-Keenan-Lambert. You sure do get around girl ! By the way, you can DELETE all the Photos you want from your FACEBOOK PAGES and HIDE or DELETE your Facebook Accounts to “KEEP YOUR INFORMATION UNSACCESSIBLE.” It’s too late though. We have already gathered up and saved all of the PHOTOS and VIDEOS you and yours “POSTED PUBLICLY” as well as all the other information you “POSTED PUBLICLY” for ALL THE WORLD TO SEE. You made your Facebook accounts, photos and videos disappear so fast the last time when the tables turned on you, after surprising so many other “LAW-ABIDING UNITED STATES CITIZENS”, when you thought it would be CUTE to put us in the Spotlight by Surprise AND SOME OF YOUR INFORMATION WAS “DECADES” OUT OF DATE. Some of your photos and videos may be posted soon for all to view (that’s not just limited to you CynDEEEEE). Your photos, videos and all have been saved for Special Occassions like the one you unexpectedly threw for us, Your Fellow Law-Abiding Americans! By the way, just let us know if you need a copy of any of those photos or videos. We’ll be happy to post them for you should you lose any of them.
And there’s a lot more to come. More detailed information on many of you HYPOCRITES who thought it would be cute to do this to us. There’s more dirt out there that will be posted about your past as well as your family’s past in regards to those who are at least at the age of 18 or older “now”. Some of you and your family members have some dirt that your friends, your employers or even your family member’s employers may be interested in. You’re minds are probably already racing, thinking about all of those incidents where you or your family members got “Caught Breaking the Law” and you’re thinking: “Oh $hit, I hope they didn’t dig up information on That One Time I or Junior was arrested for… or That Time back in College when…” Yes, it’s time for you and your families get to wonder what might come back to haunt each of you. Do some of you or your family members have a DWI in your past? Maybe more than one?? I GUARANTEE YOU DO ! I wonder if your employers or your family members’ employers look not so favorably upon finding out that information?
You should NEVER have committed such a DISPICABLE ACT upon Law-Abiding Americans ! Especially after doing this to us before in 2006. We absolutely did NOT deserve that! You are Pious Trash who are no better than us but you think you are and you enjoyed doing this to us! We tend to find that those who scrutinize others and hound them the most, are the biggest violators of that same scrutiny. You apparently have other employees at The Journal News whose addresses didn’t come up on “Your Map” (some have already been posted) even though they have a handgun registered at their residence. That’s odd? Either, that would mean you are purposely blocking that information from getting out or you’re incompetent with the information you gathered. If you’re incompetent in posting accurate information about the public (such as including people on your map who don’t have a gun but you’re saying they do), I’m thinking that would be good grounds to sue you on. If you have posted accurate information on your maps, then one can only conclude that you are purposely blocking your employees’ information from being shown on “Your Maps” to Protect Them. I’m thinking that may also open you up for a lawsuit when you freely distribute everyone’s information but “Your Own”. So… are you incompetent or just playing favorites? It’s got to be one or the other.
You thought it would be cute to play games with us. You must have sorely mistaken us for Republicans in Congress. We are not. We strike back when struck and we can play your SAME GAME better than you can because there’s a lot more of us that you went after and plan on going after in the future, than there are of you at the Journal News and Gannett. You wanted to play this game with us. Well then… Let’s Play !
By the way, photos will eventually be posted. For now, just focusing on all the “Public Records” Goodies found.
Coming soon – A few of your other favorites Hypocrites from the Journal:
Gracia Martore (and family)
Dwight Worley (and family). After all… he’s the Journal’s “Reporter” who requested “Our Information”. Let’s see how he and his family like being put in the SPOTLIGHT ! ;p
Love,
Themis
Ms. CynDEE Royle
Ms. CynDEE Royle…. THIS IS YOUR LIFE !!
Themis
Senate OKs Guns in Parking lots!
Tennessee Senate panel OKs guns in parking lots bill
NASHVILLE — A bill letting Tennessee’s 375,000 handgun-carry permit holders store firearms in vehicles parked on most public and private lots sailed through the state Senate Judiciary Committee this afternoon.
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2013/feb/05/tennessee-senate-panel-oks-guns-parking-lots-bill/
Albany Rally, Pro-Gun Rights Group To Rally in Albany Feb. 12
Pro-Gun Rights Groups To Rally Tuesday Feb. 12th In Albany
Posted by: Joseph Spector Feb 07, 2013
http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2013/02/07/pro-gun-rights-groups-to-rally-tuesday-in-albany/
Pro-gun rights groups are rallying at the state Capitol on Tuesday Feb. 12th to protest the gun-control law signed by Gov. Andrew Cuomo last month.
It will be the second rally at the Capitol since the law took effect Jan. 15. And it won’t be the last: the state Rifle and Pistol Association is holding a rally and lobby day on Feb. 28.
The one Tuesday Feb. 12th will seek a repeal of the NY-SAFE Act, which imposed the toughest gun-control measures in the country.
More than 2,000 people attended a rally at the Capitol on the Saturday after the law was passed.
Lawmakers have indicated that there would be amendments to the law, particularly one that exempts police officers from the assault-weapons ban—which was an oversight in the hastily approved law.
The state Rifle and Pistol Association indicated it plans to file a lawsuit against the state over the law, claiming it is unconstitutional and infringes on Second Amendment rights.
http://polhudson.lohudblogs.com/2013/02/07/pro-gun-rights-groups-to-rally-tuesday-in-albany/
Ulster legislature committee calls for repeal of state gun law
Ulster legislature committee calls for repeal of state gun law
STONE RIDGE – The Law Enforcement Committee of the Ulster County Legislature voted unanimously on Tuesday to call for tossing most of the state’s new gun law. The memorializing resolution carries no legal weight, but sends a message to Albany as to how the county lawmakers feel about the issue.
The packed house at Ulster Community College in Stone Ridge gave resounding support to the lawmakers.
The full legislature must now take up the measure, which is expected to be approved at its next session.
Criticism centered on, among other provisions, the rule that would limit ammunition magazines to seven bullets instead of 10.
Supporters of repeal believe the new state law takes away their Second Amendment right to bear arms.
http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2013/February/06/UCL_gunlaw-06Feb13.html
Gun Statistics Obama Doesn’t Want You to See! 50% drop!!!
Gun Statistics Obama Doesn’t Want You to See!
Crime across the board, including Guns, Consistently has in the United States Decreased by 50% from 1992 – 2011!
Published on Jan 24, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I3AuuScc0M
Melissa Melton breaks down the real crime stats for the UK, US and Proves Piers Morgan Wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I3AuuScc0M
LOOK IT UP!!!
35yrs for Vet. w/ Magazine, ‘vs’ 17 for Murder w/ Claw Hammer?!
Owning an EMPTY AR magazine w/ NO criminal history or background, with a 12 year Decorated Army Disabled Veteran status is worse than murder in New York!?!?
WELCOME TO NEW YORK!!!
Get 35 years in prison for being a 12 year, Decorated Disabled Veteran, that owned a empty Magazine left over from his military service with NO criminal history or background!?,
OR:
Be a MURDERER and get ONLY 17 YEARS in PRISON for BEING a SERIAL MURDERER with MENTAL PROBLEMS for BASHING in your GRANDMOTHERS HEAD WITH A CLAW HAMMER, then get RELEASED OUT of Prison, so you can ILLEGALLY ACQUIRE a AR RIFLE, through an ILLEGAL STRAW PURCHASE, so he could then ILLEGALLY START a FIRE to set up a trap, THEN he CALLED 911, SO HE COULD SHOOT AND KILL THE DEFENSELESS FIREMEN AS THEY SHOWED UP!(two of them were killed!)
REMEMBER FOLKS,..He’d already served one term for bashing his grandmothers head in to death with a claw hammer!?! One term?!?
About typical for a murder before the very liberal judges in New York, the guy had been sentenced to 17 years, and was such a bad actor in prison that he did every minute! (this is exceedingly rare).
Yes, you have that right: IT IS TWICE AS SERIOUS TO POSSESS EMPTY MAGAZINES IN NEW YORK, as it is ACTUALLY KILL SOMEBODY. Emily Miller of the Washington Times has some details:
but, Nathan Haddad, Army veteran Nathan Haddad, who suffered a career-ending shoulder injury whilst trying to qualify for Special Forces, is facing a few other challenges. Five of them, to be precise: felony charges for possessing AR-15 magazines left over from his Army service. A politically ambitious and rabidly anti-veteran local prosecutor in New York State is pressing Haddad for a plea, threatening him with 35 years in prison for the magazines.
Ironically, one of the supposed motivators for New York’s politicians to pass such draconian anti-magazine laws was the use of an AR to murder two firemen. The murderer was no novice: he’d already served one term for bashing his grandmother to death with a claw hammer. One term? About typical for a murder before the very liberal judges in New York, the guy had been sentenced to 17 years, and was such a bad actor in prison that he did every minute (this is exceedingly rare).
Yes, you have that right: it’s twice as serious to possess empty magazines in the Red Queen’s state of New York, as it is actually up and kill somebody. Emily Miller of the Washington Times has some details:
Mr. Haddad, who was medically discharged in 2010 after 12 years of service, was arrested when he was stopped by police on Jan. 6 in LeRay, NY. Through his brother Michael, Mr. Haddad declined to comment on the cause until after his Feb. 20 conference date to meet with the prosecutor and the judge.
Since 1994, magazines over 10 rounds have been illegal. This month, Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed legislation that makes any ammunition feeding device over 7 rounds illicit in New York.
According to Jefferson County Sheriff’s office sources, Mr. Haddad was in the parking lot of a closed business at 7:30 p.m. when an officer asked him what he was doing. The police allege that the Fort Drum civilian employee said that he was meeting someone to sell the AR-15 style rifle magazines.
This is obviously much more serious than murder. What sort of selfless civil servant would make this case a priority?
Kristyna S. Mills, the chief assistant district attorney for Jefferson County, is prosecuting the case. “It’s against the law to possess these types of devices,” she told me in an interview Friday. “He was arrested in accordance with possession of these devices, and it’s our job to prosecute those cases that run amok of the law.”
Now, that’s the magazine scofflaws she’s talking about. Murderers, she’s got 17 years for.
We bet the murderers are real glad they didn’t do something serious, like serve in the Army and have some leftover magazines.
***You can do something about it here: Nathan Haddad legal defense fund.
This entry was posted in Lord Love a Duck on February 6, 2013. http://weaponsman.com/?p=6935
http://www.gofundme.com/1tkukc
The local paper also has some details:
Mr. Haddad was deployed four times during his decade in the Army, the Times reported in a story featuring him in September 2009. At that time, he was a staff sergeant with the 3rd Battalion, 85th Infantry, Warrior in Transition Unit at Fort Drum, undergoing aquatic physical therapy for an injury he suffered. He was discharged from the Army in October 2010, according to Fort Drum.
Haddad also competed in the wounded-warrior Warrior Games while on active duty (even though his injury was a training injury, he’s still eligible).
Staff Sgt. Nathan Haddad is a well-traveled young man. He has completed tours in Korea, Iraq, Alaska, Arizona and New York. Most recently this Operation Iraqi Freedom Soldier’s travels have focused on training for the Warrior Games.
“The Warrior Games are as close as I can get to fulfill a dream I have had since I was four,” said Staff Sgt. Haddad as he checked the tension on his bow. “And, the training and exercises are similar to that of the physical therapy that I do for my injuries.”
Staff Sgt. Haddad is scheduled to compete in archery (recurve open) and shooting (100M air rifle prone) at the Warrior Games. He is focused on his rigorous Warrior Games training routine. He devotes three hours daily to archery and three hours to marksmanship, usually followed by a run.
Remember, to Andrew Cuomo, Kristyna Mills, and the power elite of New York State, this guy is not only worse than a murderer, but judging from the threatened sentence, over twice as bad.
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You can do something about it here: Nathan Haddad legal defense fund.
This entry was posted in Lord Love a Duck on February 6, 2013. http://weaponsman.com/?p=6935
http://www.gofundme.com/1tkukc
Gun Free zones in New York/ Chicago: People are now defencless!
“IF YOUR A MURDERER, or a CRIMINAL, come to NEW YORK for a LIGHT SENTENCE! (that is if you actually get caught) NEW YORK only GIVES LONG SENTENCES TO THE INNOCENT law abiding people for frivolous things! (If you are politically connected, rich, or famous you don’t have to worry either!!)
“NEW YORK CITY CAN only BE POSSIBLY TOPPED IN MURDERS BY CHICAGO, THEY ARE BOTH TRYING HARD TO WIN THE RACE and TO CATCH UP to the OTHER?! NO APPLICATION REQUIRED, Criminals can JUST SHOW UP!
Who knows, By the speed that CHICAGO and NEW YORK CITY POLITICIANS are passing laws to help the criminals,.. by next month they might pass Laws for free transit PASSES for the criminals to take the BUS or Train INTO THE CITY!?!
Andrew Cuomo, and Bloomberg, have already made it illegal to defend yourself if your a law abiding citizen! Rahm Emanuel of Chicago is trying hard to keep it easy for the criminals to assault Law Abiding citizens that cannot defend themselves!
Kristyna Mills of New York will fight for the convicted criminals to make sure the criminals get a light sentence in New York!
They have rolled out the red carpet for criminals! ONLY IN NEW YORK! REMEMBER FOLKS: NEW YORK IS NOW “A GUN FREE ZONE”, WELCOME TO ALL CRIMINALS! NEW YORK CITIZENS ARE NOW DEFENSELESS!!
NOW ONLY THE POLICE AND THE MILITARY LEGALLY HAVE GUNS! https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_415961955_n.jpg
(How is THE “HOPE AND CHANGE” IDEA WORKING OUT FOR YOU!??)
***Chicago Won’t Respond to 911 Calls: Story:
http://nation.foxnews.com/chicago/2013/02/05/chicago-wont-respond-911-calls
Bruce Willis: DON’T INFRINGE ON 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS!!!!!
BRUCE WILLIS:
“DON’T INFRINGE ON SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!”
Wednesday – 2/6/2013, US actor Bruce Willis , arrives for the premiere of the movie ‘A Good Day to Die Hard’ in Berlin, Germany, Monday Feb. 4, 2013., RYAN PEARSON,. AP Entertainment Writer
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Bruce Willis says he’s Against new Gun Control Laws that could Infringe on Second Amendment RIGHTS! The “Die Hard” star also dismisses any link between Hollywood shootouts and real-life gun violence.
“I think that you can’t start to pick apart anything out of the Bill of Rights without thinking that it’s all going to become undone,” Willis told The Associated Press in a recent interview while promoting his latest film, “A Good Day To Die Hard.” ”If you take one out or change one law, then why wouldn’t they take all your rights away from you?”
Willis’ fifth outing as wise-cracking cop John McClane, due in theaters Feb. 14, comes as his action franchise marks its 25th anniversary. The 57-year-old actor will also be seen firing away at bad guys in the upcoming sequels “G.I. Joe: Retaliation” and “Red 2,” both due later this year.
But he believes “the real topic is diminished” when observers link Hollywood entertainment with high-profile mass shootings like those last year in Connecticut and Colorado.
“No one commits a crime because they saw a film. There’s nothing to support that,” Willis said. “We’re not making movies about people that have gone berserk, or gone nuts. Those kind of movies wouldn’t last very long at all.”
Willis added that he doesn’t see how additional legislation could prevent future mass shootings.
“It’s a difficult thing and I really feel bad for those families,” he said. “I’m a father and it’s just a tragedy. But I don’t know how you legislate insanity. I don’t know what you do about it. I don’t even know how you begin to stop that.”
http://wtop.com/541/3219352/Bruce-Willis-Dont-infringe-on-Second-Amendment
Hitler quote: USEING CHILDREN AS POLITICAL PAWNS!
HITLER quote: USEING CHILDREN AS POLITICAL PAWNS
REMEMBER This when you see OBAMA USING CHILDREN as Props on a stage or on tv/ cable, news or as a advertisement!
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_41596…
“THE STATE MUST DECLARE THE CHILD TO BE THE MOST PRECIOUS TREASURE OF THE PEOPLE. ,(then),
AS LONG AS THE GOVERNMENT IS PERCEIVED AS WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CHILDREN,
THE PEOPLE WILL HAPPILY ENDURE ALMOST ANY CURTAILMENT OF LIBERTY AND ALMOST ANY DEPRIVATION”
Published in,.. MEIN KAMPF, Written By:.. ADOLF HITLER
I once saw a movie where the only people allowed guns were police and the military
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_41596…
Correct link for Hitler Quote,..
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_415961955_n.jpg
Ohio sheriff warns Obama on gun control
U.S. News: Ohio sheriff warns Obama on gun control, Feb. 5, 2013
FINDLAY, Ohio, Feb. 5 (UPI) — The sheriff of Hancock County, Ohio, has told President Barack Obama “any so-called federal law” infringing gun rights “will not be tolerated” in his county.
Sheriff Michael Heldman, in a letter to the president Friday, said he would ensure “the right of the people in the county which I represent will continue to keep and bear arms for their defense and security, and that right will not be infringed upon by any enemy, foreign or domestic.”
“It has come to my attention that you and some of your administration believe that the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States is up for your personal interpretation, and that there is a movement under way from the White House, and the Senate, and the Congress to take away the right of the people of this free country to keep guns and ammunition for their personal defense and security,” Heldman wrote.
“Any edict, regulation, or so-called federal law which infringes on the right of the citizens of Hancock County, Ohio to keep and bear arms for their security will not be tolerated, recognized or enforced by me or my office,” the sheriff told the president.
Heldman said Sunday he was conflicted about proposals to limit ownership of military-style assault weapons, The (Findlay, Ohio) Courier reported Monday. Heldman acknowledged restricting ownership of such weapons could keep them out of the hands of dangerous people but he said it would also deprive law-abiding citizens of their Second Amendment rights, the newspaper said.
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/02/05/Ohio-sheriff-warns-Obama-on-gun-control/UPI-33851360089643/#ixzz2K4J3mucN
DHS, Civil War We are Preparing for! “A Massive Civil War!”
We are Preparing for Massive Civil War, Says DHS Informant, Published on May 6, 2012
Apr 24, 2012 by alisonserr
The government has declared it can lock anyone up forever or kill them without any proof or due process. DHS has placed an order for 450 million rounds of Hollow Point ammo. Obama can now declare martial law during peace time. I think that just about says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nXg2WsNCrW4&feature=endscreen
“We are Preparing for Massive Civil War,” Says DHS Informant
“If you don’t fight for your rights, they don’t exist. Our constitution doesn’t mean a damn thing if we the people don’t stand up for it.” Or just go back to sleep. Maybe we’ll get adjoining cells one day if we’re still alive anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nXg2WsNCrW4&feature=endscreen
Download the four files and run the exe to merge the three pieces back together.
****DISCLAIMER: This video contains copyrighted material and is used for educational purposes ONLY. I make no claim to any material used within the video. All copyrighted materials belong to their respective owners.
“This video is fair use under U.S. copyright law because it is (1) non-commercial, (2) transformative in nature, (3) uses no more of the original work than necessary for the video’s purpose, and (4) does not compete with the original work and could have no negative affect on it’s market.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nXg2WsNCrW4&feature=endscreen
Martial Law 2013 DHS: “Preparing for Massive Civil War!”
Martial Law 2013 DHS Informant: “We are Preparing for a Massive Civil War”, Published on May 6, 2012
***In a riveting interview on TruNews Radio, private investigator Doug Hagmann said high-level, reliable sources told him the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is preparing for “massive civil war” in America.
“We have problems . . . The federal government is preparing for civil uprising,” he added, “so every time you hear about troop movements, every time you hear about movements of military equipment, the militarization of the police, the buying of the ammunition, all of this is . . . they (DHS) are preparing for a massive uprising.”
Hagmann goes on to say that his sources tell him the concerns of the DHS stem from a collapse of the U.S. dollar and the hyperinflation a collapse in the value of the world’s primary reserve currency implies to a nation of 311 million Americans, who, for the significant portion of the population, is armed.
Hagmann, and Host Rick Wiles share their concerns that even our Congressmen, and Senators are afraid to stand up to Barack Obama, and the emerging Police State out of fear “for the safety of their own familes, and Grandchildren as Chicago Style Mob Rule has overtaken the Executive Branch.
FULL Report @ http://thekeytoeternity.blogspot.com/2012/05/martial-law-2012-we-are-preparin…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=IZkA5Cgw_og&NR=1
Gun Violence Prevention Incredible Speeches!
Incredible Speech on Gun Violence Published on Jan 28, 2013,
***Henson Ong – Legal Immigrant’s speech on 2nd Amendment, Gun Violence Prevention Working Group Public Hearing – Hartford, CT – 1/28/2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY2JR92Scmk&feature=endscreen&NR=1
***Christopher Yen Gun Violence Prevention Working Group Public Hearing, Published on Jan 29, 2013
Testimony from a citizen at the Connecticut hearing for Gun Violence Prevention.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=au56XgUE1og#!
***Veteran at Gun Violence Prevention Public Hearing – Hartford, CT – 1/28/2013
Published on Jan 28, 2013
This man’s FULL hearing with is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU68EcCW_Gs&NR=1&feature=endscreen
***Derek Greaves, Veteran, Federal Gun Dealer at Gun Violence Prevention Public Hearing – Hartford, CT – 1/28/2013
Published on Jan 28, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtZjUcze-k0&NR=1&feature=endscreen
***Bill Stevens Gun Violence Prevention Working Group Public Hearing, Published on Jan 29, 2013
From my cold dead hands! Citizen testifying in Connecticut
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bCA3yqkMUI&feature=endscreen&NR=1
***Linda Czaplinski at Gun Violence Prevention Public Hearing – Hartford, CT – 1/28/20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=JbJmlz40su4
321 County Sheriffs say’ NO’ to Obama & Defend the Constitution!
321 County Sheriffs Will Defend the Constitution!
*If you are a sheriff or you know of a Sheriff that would like to be added to this list please call Keith Broaders at (951) 282-3271 or email him at keithbroaders@gmail.com Visit http://ConstitutionClub.ning.com
The following is a list of sheriffs and state sheriff’s associations who have committed to their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights including the 2nd Amendment against Obama’s unlawful gun control measures. I applaud these public servants for their courage and conviction.
*** “I call on sheriffs all over this nation to add their voices to the growing numbers of faithful protectors of our freedom.”*** -Richard Mack
1. National Sheriffs Association:
Announces “Will Not Enforce Gun Control Laws That Violate Second Amendment”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JJqG6bB0SiU
2. Utah Sheriffs Association
http://www.utahsheriffs.org/USA-Home_files/2nd%20Amendment%20Letter_1.pdf
3. Florida Sheriffs Association
http://cspoa.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Second-Amendment-Proclamation.pdf
4. Georgia Sheriffs Association
http://www.georgiasheriffs.org/Display.asp?Page=home
5. Colorado Sheriffs Associationhttp://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2013/0129/20130129_113251_GunControlLegislation.pdf
6. New Mexico Sheriffs Association
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s2900557.shtml?cat=513
7. Nebraska Sheriffs Association.
https://www.facebook.com/Charlie.janssen/app_208195102528120?ref=ts
8. Wyoming Sheriffs Association
http://www.wascop.com/pdf/WASCOP%20Position%20Statement%20-%20Public%20Safety%20and%20Firearms.pdf
***Video: interviews with Sheriffs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=27x7EZN4cp8#!
***List of current County Sheriffs:
http://constitutionclub.ning.com/forum/topics/county-sheriff-s-honor-roll/
Alabama 4
Alaska (there are no counties in Alaska)
Arizona 6
California 19
Colorado 59
*(Broomfield County has no Sheriff and the Sheriffs of Arapahoe, Boulder and Denver are opposed to the position taken by the Colorado Sheriff’s Association.)
Delaware 1
Florida 5
Georgia 8
Idaho 10
Illinois 4
Indiana 4
Iowa 1
Kansas 1
Kentucky 5
Maryland 2
Massachusetts 0
Michigan 4
Minnesota 6
Mississippi 3
Missouri 14
Montana 8
Nevada 3
New Hampshire 1
New Mexico 29
New York 5
North Carolina 12
Ohio 4
Oklahoma 5
Oregon 18
Pennsylvania 6
South Carolina 7
South Dakota 0
Tennessee 3
Texas 18
Utah 28
Vermont 0
Virginia 0
Washington 6
West Virginia 3
Wisconsin 2
To view full list:
http://constitutionclub.ning.com/forum/topics/county-sheriff-s-honor-roll/
330 County Sheriffs Will Defend the Constitution!
330 County Sheriffs Will Defend the Constitution
Updated and corrected information is as follows:
Arkansas 6
California 20
Georgia 10
Maine 0
Minnesota 7
Missouri 15
Montana 9
Texas 19
New York 6
North Dakota 0
Rhode Island 0
Corrected Colorado Sheriffs Association link:
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2013/0129/20130129_113251_GunControlLegislation.pdf
FOR THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION, Or To Join as a County Sheriff:
http://constitutionclub.ning.com/forum/topics/county-sheriff-s-honor-roll/
Senator Graham: concerns of Gun Control: Video.
Published on Jan 30, 2013
U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham speaks in the Senate Judiciary Committee about his concerns with gun control.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rAKRwPKLTgs
NY Gun Law ‘Clearly Unconstitutional
DC v. Heller Attorney: NY Gun Law ‘Clearly Unconstitutional’ January 31, 2013, By Patrick Burke,.. Attorney Alan Gura. (AP)
(CNSNews.com) — Attorney Alan Gura, who successfully represented plaintiff Dick Heller in the Supreme Court case DC v Heller, which struck down a ban on handguns as unconstitutional, said the new gun control law in New York signed by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo is “clearly unconstitutional.”
Speaking at a discussion on Jan. 29 at Cornell University Law School, Gura specifically mentioned the law’s seven-round bullet limit for gun magazines as unconstitutional.
“Well, the seven-round limit to me is clearly unconstitutional for the reasons that you mentioned,” Gura said, responding to a question from William A. Jacobson, an associate clinical professor at Cornell Law.
“Americans have an expectation to find in common use handguns that have more than seven rounds,” Gura said, “and so a seven-round limit is plainly unconstitutional.”
Gura added that plaintiff Dick Heller’s gun—which was illegal under the unconstitutional handgun ban in the District of Columbia—would also have been illegal under the New York law because of the gun’s amount of rounds.
“Dick Heller’s gun, that was an issue in the Washington case, was a revolver that held nine rounds — I guess it’s illegal in New York now,” he said, the limit on how many rounds a gun can hold is “plainly ridiculous.” But as a general possession question, to prohibit anything that contains more than seven rounds is plainly ridiculous and it should be struck down.”
In addition to DC v Heller, Gura successfully argued the gun-rights case McDonald v Chicago which also went to the Supreme Court.
Read:
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/dc-v-heller-attorney-ny-gun-law-clearly-unconstitutional
Buffalo vs NY State Q &A forum on the Arms bill,. Full Video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ol1SzjHPFGw#!
YouTube: VIDEO: FULL VIDEO: Non-Compliance Resistance Evident at Buffalo vs New York State Q & A Forum on the Arms Bill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ol1SzjHPFGw#!
Buffalo citizens Combative, Vow to Defy Unconstitutional law!
Combative citizens confront officials over gun rights! February 2, 2013, By: Anthony Martin
A forum conducted by government officials and law enforcement concerning gun rights turned combative as citizens angrily confronted the officials over what they perceive as a frontal attack on their Second Amendment rights.
Read:
http://www.examiner.com/article/combative-citizens-confront-officials-over-gun-rights
Citizens who live in central and western New York state are fighting back. They vow to disobey any of the new laws, such as the requirement that all guns be registered and that anyone who owns a newly banned gun turn them in.
If such civil disobedience is widespread in the state, the new laws will fail due to the fact that government will have no way of knowing who has semiautomatic rifles or who has hoarded large amounts of ammunition.Alan Gura, the winning attorney, stated that New York’s new gun laws are clearly unconstitutional. Gura also successfully argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that Chicago’s gun bans were unconstitutional.
But in the New York case, apparently citizens have no plans to wait for a Supreme Court case to claim their Constitutional rights. One citizen asked if law enforcement has enough space in jail to put all of the persons who will defy the new gun laws.
The question itself indicates that the civil disobedience that is about to ensue in New York will be massive.
Read:
http://www.examiner.com/article/combative-citizens-confront-officials-over-gun-rights
Newtown father: ‘You’ll take my guns from my cold dead hands!
Newtown father: ‘You’ll have to take my guns from my cold dead hands!
February 3, 2013, By: Christopher Collins
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYLr6u2FyY&feature=youtu.be
Newtown father: ‘You’ll have to take my guns from my cold dead hands!
A video of a father, Bill Stevens, whose daughter attended Sandy Hook Elementary school, scene of the mass shooting in December, is making its rounds today of his testimony against gun control at a Working Group Public Hearing at the Connecticut State Capitol on gun violence prevention.
Although his daughter was not harmed in the shooting, his daughter’s friend’s little sister was a victim.
In his testimony, he was very clear on his stance against going after legal gun owners and that no one will take his freedom away to protect his daughter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYLr6u2FyY&feature=youtu.be
Stevens told the panel that he is not there to cite statistics, lives saved by a gun or the economic impact. He was there to remind those people about the U.S. Constitution and the 2nd Amendment, the Constitution of the State of Connecticut in regards to self-defense.
He said, “Unfortunately, her friend’s little sister was murdered in Sandy Hook that day when lock-down and 911 were not enough to protect her from an evil person.” Not protect her from an assault rifle or some inadament object, but from an evil person.”
“Quite different from the security you all have here at the capitol. It was fun getting frisked on the way in,” said Stevens.
Stevens read part from the state’s constitution on the right to bear arms in self-defense and told the panel,
“THESE RIGHTS ARE INALIENABLE AND ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR, NOT YOU POLITICIANS!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYLr6u2FyY&feature=youtu.be
Toward the end of his testimony, Stevens said:
“But criminals and tyrants…tyrants, especially be aware that lock-down is not an option at the Steven’s resident. And 911 will be dialed after the security of my home has been established.”
“Why is that same security that my daughter enjoys at home with her dad not available at school in Newtown? That is what you should be considering, not making her dad a criminal,” Steven asked.
“Charlton Heston made the phrase “From my cold dead hands” famous and I am here to tell you today, you will take my ability to protect my Victoria from my cold dead hands.”
His full testimony can be seen here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAYLr6u2FyY&feature=youtu.be
Councilman walks out after Failing to Force Violation of Law!?!
Councilman Rick Almberg walks out of city meeting over armed veteran Legally carrying Private weapon!?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxHnCei4wzg
After a private citizen Mr.Yonkman spoke at a town hall meeting, councilman Rick Almberg asked for a motion to have the legally carrying and law abiding armed concealed carrying citizen to be disarmed by police during the meeting. The motion was seconded by Councilman Joel and it promptly failed on the floor immediately!
If the Motion seceded on the floor,.. it would have violated privacy laws, gun laws, and Second amendment laws! It would have also violated City council meeting rules/ laws, as well as many City, County, and State laws! Not to mention, had a city police officer attempted or did remove the individuals Federal Rights from him, or remove him from the room, or arrested the individual for refusing to relinquish his firearm, or attempt to disarm the individual, the City would have been in a big world of legal problems!
*** In Addition to this,..
The moment that Councilman Rick Almberg requested this motion he did in fact immediately violate his own oath he took as a councilman to be a councilman!
Another interesting fact is that councilman Rick Almberg also immediately violated the oath he took as an officer in the Military from prior service to uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, as well as the Rights of the citizenry!?!?
***”After Almberg left the meeting, MAYOR Dudley took a few moments and apologized to Mr. Yonkman.
“There is no reason why a citizen should ever be treated like that, or a disabled veteran,” he said.
The mayor said he expects to see a full crowd at the next city council meeting, Feb. 5, where he plans to reintroduce updating the city’s ordinance on carrying guns in city parks.***
WHY IS THIS GUY ON THE CITY COUNCIL!?!?
By Kiersten Throndsen Published: Jan 25, 2013 at 6:39 PM PST
WATCH Video of proceeding’s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxHnCei4wzg
Read Articular:
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Councilman-walks-out-of-meeting–188298651.html?tab=video&c=y
Mayor’s 2nd attempt 2 end Gun Ordinance violation of State law!
Oak Harbor mayor to make second attempt at ending gun ordinance.
By JESSIE STENSLAND
Whidbey News Times Assistant editor
February 1, 2013 · Updated 2:44 PM
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/189441461.html
To NYPD,..”Who Are The Police At War With?” From NY Citizens!
Saturday, February 2, 2013
“Who Are The Police At War With?”
If these gun owners of western New York attending an information meeting in Buffalo on the NY-SAFE gun law are any indication, Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) has opened a huge can of worms that will have all sorts of unintended consequences. Who would have ever thought there would be talk of armed militias in an overwhelmingly blue state like New York?
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdhVxva5KU&feature=player_embedded#!
COMMENTS:
***Militia? Maybe tomorrow. Today we are called Volunteer Fire Departments, Bowling Teams, Church Groups, Snowmobile Clubs and things like that. Push us and, sure as snow in Upstate New York, we WILL organize and you can call them whatever you want. WE will call ourselves Free Citizens!!! Do Not Tread on US!
***I think the police officer who shouted “Bring it on” needs to be made the face of ANY attempted confiscation. Name and shame. For a cop to come out and say something so unprofessional in a public venue, should mean he faces disciplinary action.
***I will not register anything. I will be ready when the time comes. I am just another New Yorker, fed up with neo-nazi liberalism.
***Didn’t we kill these people in the Third Reich? What are they back for? This is the end for Son of Mario and his ilk.
***They (Police) needed to be reminded, hard, that they are citizens too. Not elite. Not military. They Are. Citizens!
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdhVxva5KU&feature=player_embedded#!
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2013/02/who-are-police-at-war-with.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NoLawyers-OnlyGunsAndMoney+%28No+Lawyers+-+Only+Guns+and+Money%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
***Winning Firearm Freedoms One Lawsuit at a Time!
NSA Will NOT Enforce Gun Control that violates Bill of Rights!!!
National Sheriffs’ Association Announces They Will Not Enforce Gun Control Laws That Violate Second Amendment! February 2, 2013
Washington D.C. Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJqG6bB0SiU
NSA held a major press conference February 1st during the Winter Conference in Washington, DC. NSA’s Board of Directors have created a position statement on the current issue of Gun Control. NSA’s President, Sheriff Larry Amerson (Calhoun County, AL) and Sheriff (ret.) Aaron Kennard (Executive Director of NSA) along with members of the executive committee and board of directors were present during the reading of the statement. The statement is available below.
Via National Sheriffs’ Association
https://leaksource.wordpress.com/2013/02/02/national-sheriffs-association-announces-they-will-not-enforce-gun-control-laws-that-violate-second-amendment/
256 Sheriffs, 6 Sheriffs Assoc’s. Say ‘NO’ to Oboma Gun Control
256 Sheriffs and 6 State Sheriffs Associations Saying ‘NO’ to Obama Gun Control!
Posted on February 01, 2013
Sheriffs have risen up all over our great nation to stand up against the unconstitutional gun control measures being taken. The following is a list of sheriffs and state sheriff’s associations from who have vowed to uphold and defend the Constitution against Obama’s unlawful gun control measures. I applaud these public servants for their courage and conviction.
**I CALL ON ALL SHERIFFS ALL OVER THIS NATION TO ADD THERE VOICES TO THE GROWING NUMBERS OF FAITHFUL PROTECTORS OF OUR FREEDOM!
-Richard Mack**
Sheriffs and associations who have made public statements committing to protect their citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights from Obama’s gun control efforts will be added. Some of these sheriffs are members of the CSPOA, but inclusion in this list does not necessarily mean they are a member.
List of State Sheriff’s Associations
1. Utah Sheriffs Association
2. Florida Sheriffs Association
3. Georgia Sheriffs Association
4. Colorado Sheriffs Association
5. New Mexico Sheriffs Association
6. Nebraska Sheriffs Association
http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/01/29/sheriff-mack-and-cspoa-225-sheriffs-oppose-gun-ban/
1. Utah Sheriff’s Association (All Counties!)
2. New Mexico Sheriff’s Association (30 of 33 sheriffs)
List of current County Sheriffs:
Alabama 6
Arizona 6
Arkansas 1
California 17
Colorado 6
Delaware 1
Florida 6
Georgia 7
Idaho 10
Illinois 4
Indiana 3
Iowa 1
Kansas 1
Kentucky 5
Maryland 2
Michigan 4
Minnesota 1
Mississippi 3
Missouri 16
Montana 6
Nevada 3
New Hampshire 1
New Mexico 30
New York 4
North Carolina 11
Ohio 4
Oklahoma 4
Oregon 18
Pennsylvania 7
South Carolina 7
Tennessee 2
Texas 15
Utah 37
Washington 5
West Virginia 3
Wisconsin 1
To view full list:
http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/01/29/sheriff-mack-and-cspoa-225-sheriffs-oppose-gun-ban/
Even More Embarrassment for the JN
Robert,
You’re going to love the latest on the Journal News’ infamous gun list!
As the HotAir.com blog is now reporting:
“The newspaper map of one New York county’s pistol permits was riddled with problems, thanks to inaccurate data in official records, acknowledges the paper that published it. Just 3,907 of the 16,998 permit-holding households displayed on the Journal News’ Rockland County map were current; the rest were classified as “historical,” with no updates in the past five years, explains Rockland’s county clerk. Some permits were issued as long ago as the 1930s; owners could have moved, ditched their guns, or died since then.”
Wow … this is going to go down as one of the classic examples of how not to practice journalism. See what happens when you put agenda ahead of ethics and responsibility?
Mississipi To Seal Concealed-carry Gun Info! (Thank u JN!)
Mississippi House votes to seal concealed-carry gun info, Jan 29, 2013 Written by EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS, Associated Press
JACKSON — The Mississippi House voted today to block public access to information about state-issued permits for people to carry concealed weapons. House Bill 485, Backed by the National Rifle Association, passed 101-18. It moves for more debate in the Senate, where a similar bill has been filed. The House bill’s sponsor is Republican Mark Baker of Brandon, who chairs the Judiciary A Committee. He said:
“I FILED IT AT THE REQUEST OF CONSTITUENTS WHO WERE UPSET THAT A NEWSPAPER IN NEW YORK,(Journal News) PUBLISHED THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMITS”,.. “HE SAID THE PUBLICATION MADE LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS SITTING DUCKS!”
“I don’t want to make those that are trying to protect themselves and their families susceptible to harm!,”,.. Baker told the House in arguing to close the records.
Lloyd Gray, executive editor of the Northeast Mississippi Daily Journal in Tupelo, said the newspaper recently requested public records about concealed-carry permits in the region. He said the request was part of the newspaper’s reporting about trends in gun buying or gun possession.
“WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION OF PUBLISHING ANY NAMES OR ADDRESSES!” Gray told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
Baker said: “PEOPLE WHO OBTAIN CONCEALED WEAPONS PERMITS UNDERGO BACKGROUND CHECKS”,..”THEY’RE AMONG THE MOST LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ACROSS MISSISSIPPI AND THE NATION!” He also said: “Submitting a name, address and other information for a state permit doesn’t mean the information should be open to anyone who requests it!”
“IT CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO WOULD TAKE THE INFORMATION AND BLAST IT ON THE INTERNET AND OTHER PLACES!” Baker said.
(I’m guessing he is referring to the JOURNAL NEWS again.)
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/viewart/20130129/NEWS01/130129026/Mississippi-House-votes-seal-concealed-carry-gun-info
Survey says NO! to Obama’s Federal Gun Control! (by 75%+)
Nearly 1,000,000 Million People have now taken this survey and 75%+ say a resounding NO!, to Obama’s Federal gun control!
Wednesday January 30, 2013
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http://www.newsmax.com/surveys/Results/id/64
TOPIC:
Should President Obama Start Federal Gun Control?,.. RESULTS BELOW:
Should the federal government regulate guns of any type?
Yes, it should- 252,769(28%)
No, it should not 632,570(71%)
Should Congress ban semi-automatic weapons?
Yes, it should- 200,956(22%)
No, it should not- 689,615(77%)
If Congress does not act, should President Obama use an executive order to ban or strictly control the sale of semi-automatic weapons?
Yes, he should- 182,465(20%)
No, he should not- 706,958(79%)
Do you agree that the Second Amendment gives citizens the right to own and bear guns without infringement?
Yes, I agree- 723,568(81%)
No, I don’t agree- 166,468(18%)
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226 Sheriffs: ‘NO’ to Obama Gun Control
226 Sheriffs Saying ‘NO’ to Obama Gun Control
Posted on January 29, 2013
Sheriffs have risen up all over our great nation to stand up against the unconstitutional gun control measures being taken.
The following is a list of sheriffs and state sheriff’s associations from who have vowed to uphold and defend the Constitution against Obama’s unlawful gun control measures. I applaud these public servants for their courage and conviction.
*** “I call on sheriffs all over this nation to add their voices to the growing numbers of faithful protectors of our freedom.”*** -Richard Mack
http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/
List of State Sheriff’s Associations
1. Utah Sheriff’s Association (All Counties!)
2. New Mexico Sheriff’s Association (30 of 33 sheriffs)
List of current County Sheriffs:
Alabama 4
Arizona 4
California 16
Colorado 6
Florida 5
Georgia 7
Idaho 10
Illinois 3
Indiana 1
Iowa 1
Kansas 1
Kentucky 4
Maryland 1
Michigan 3
Minnesota 1
Mississippi 3
Missouri 8
Montana 6
Nevada 3
New Hampshire 1
New Mexico 30
New York 4
North Carolina 9
Ohio 2
Oklahoma 3
Oregon 17
Pennsylvania 5
South Carolina 6
Tennessee 2
Texas 12
Utah 37
Washington 5
West Virginia 2
Wisconsin 1
To view full list:
http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/01/29/sheriff-mack-and-cspoa-225-sheriffs-oppose-gun-ban/
Georgia Sherriff’s Assoc. Unanimously Opose Gun Control! (159-0)
Georgia Sheriff’s Association Releases Statement Opposing Gun Control. Jan. 30, 2013, By: Ed Stone
Opposition to the gun control proposals being touted at the state and federal levels is mounting. Several of Georgia’s elected sheriffs have released statements from their offices stating that new proposals such as military “style” weapons bans and magazine limits infringe on the right to bear arms and would not be enforced in their counties. Yesterday, the Georgia Sheriff’s Association, which represents Georgia’s 159 elected sheriffs in the General Assembly and hosts training events for sheriffs, released some surprising news. They voted unanimously to adopt a position on the gun debate that is consuming the country’s attention. The entire statement is reproduced below:,..
*—“The sheriffs took an oath to support the Constitution and will stand by the 2nd Amendment. The sheriffs will aggressively oppose federal or state legislation which infringes upon law abiding citizens’ right to bear arms. The sheriffs further agree to support any legislation that would effectively penalize criminals who use firearms in the commission of crimes.”
The statement has also been posted on the Georgia Sheriff’s Association web site, on the home page.
http://www.georgiasheriffs.org/Display.asp?Page=home
***Oddly, the Georgia Sheriff’s Association statement has not been picked up by any of the main stream press yet. It seems truly odd that, with the gun debate taking such a position in the forefront of newspaper and television coverage, the Georgia Sheriff’s Association stating unanimously and unequivocally that they “will aggressively oppose federal or state legislation which infringes upon law abiding citizens’ right to bear arms” does not receive any coverage.***
*The unanimous statement on the gun debate will not be ignored, however, at the State Capitol, as the Georgia Sheriff’s Association is very active and effective in representing the interests of Georgia’s elected sheriffs in the General Assembly.*
http://www.examiner.com/article/georgia-sheriff-s-association-releases-statement-opposing-gun-control?cid=rss
http://www.georgiasheriffs.org/Display.asp?Page=home
230 now, corrections below,..
Additions and corrections are now:
AZ-5
AR-1
CA-17
DE-1
FL-6
IA-2
KY-5
In the Themis spirit
Themis,
Sometimes Journal News employees make it easy to do our public genealogy, so to speak. It certainly doesn’t get much easier than reading an online wedding announcement in the New York Times, which JN reporter Jonathan Bandler saw fit to publish in 2005.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/20/fashion/weddings/20TAUB.html?_r=0
Here’s what the happy couple wanted us to know about themselves and their families at that time (some information may be outdated, of course):
* His bride, Aimee Taub, is the daughter of Susan Falk Taub and Dr. Robert N. Taub of New York.
* They were married November 20, 2005 in Pearl River, N.Y.
* Jonathan Bandler is the son of Leah Bandler and Michael J. Bandler of Silver Spring, Md.
* The bride, 31, is an associate editor in New York with G. P. Putnam’s Sons, an imprint of Penguin Group. She graduated cum laude from Barnard and will continue to use her birth name professionally.
* Her father is a professor of medicine and the director of the mesothelioma center at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons. He’s also an attending oncologist at Columbia University Medical Center.
* Her mother serves on the boards of Shalom Task Force and Amit, Jewish organizations based in New York that focus on domestic violence and improving the welfare of children.
* Bridegroom Bandler, 39, is a criminal justice reporter for the Journal News and is based in Harrison, N.Y. He is the head coach of the men’s tennis team at Yeshiva University, from which he graduated.
* His father is a developer of literary and cultural programs in the Office of International Information Programs of the State Department in Washington.
I know you’ll all join me in belatedly raising our glasses to the bride and groom.
Plus
Another fun fact about the Journal News is that one of the online White Pages phone listings associated with reporter Jane Lerner (a/k/a Langer) also comes back to a Yury Langer, who is identified elsewhere as the president and CEO of Heavenly Flavours Inc., 16 N Main St # 307, New City, NY 10956; (845) 634-1818.
The company’s line of business is described as Flavoring Extracts & Syrups (Manufacturers).
Sounds tasty!
Jonathan Bandler
Jonathan “D.” Bandler
Date of Birth: September 9, 1966
600 Columbus Ave #3H
I’m showing apartment 4P (maybe prior to marriage)New York, NY 10024
Voter ID: 303890476
Registration Date: August 17, 1992
Political Party: Democrat
Aimee T. Bandler
Date of Birth: June 7, 1974 (Rob that cradle Johnny!)
Same address but Apartment 4J (maybe prior to marriage)
Voter ID: 302705135
Registration Date: October 25, 1995
Political Party: Left Blank
Short on time but a few goodies to pass on to everyone.
Themis
Themis
Have you nothing better to do?
Bridget
Bridget,
You ask if I have nothing better to do. Coming from someone who is trolling around here asking something like that, “you” appear to have absolutely nothing better to do.
Second, fighting back against the people who pulled this stunt which endangered women and children, sounds to me like a very “worthwile” way to spend some of my free time.
They want to play dirty, so will we. They started it, we will make them feel so uncomfortable that they will think twice about doing this again. This, afterall, is the second time they’ve pulled this cute little stunt.
They want to put the lives of our families (wives and children of all ages) in danger, we will put the pressure on them by turning their family members against them by the information we release. We didn’t win the Revolutionary War against Great Brittain by fighting like gentlemen. The Journal News isn’t getting a taste of their own medicine. I have no doubt their family members are furious that they have to hide or cancel their Facebook accounts and stay in the shadows. Good! That’s nothing compared to the fear our families have had to deal with. I personally do not like involving families in this but the Journal News did this to make sales with absolutely no thought or care of the families they would expose or scare. Something like this needed to be done to make them and any other journalist think twice of ever pulling a dirty stunt like this again!
Themis
Themis
Extremis
Bridget
Y’all started it, we will finish it. Plenty more coming. Bet you’re hoping you’re not in that batch, aren’t you? : P
Themis, ignore the trolls…
remember the old saying “if you have to ask the price…”?
If a troll asks a stupid question like this troll asked, you know the troll isn’t worth your time answering.
Keep up the good work, Themis.
Getting the rag that is the JN to tear down the map (albeit because they had to) was due to Bob’s excellent work. Getting rid of the gutless cowardly JN employees via registration cleared the air on this blog.
On to putting Idoni II out of a job, and not in WP.
..and what was the stupid
..and what was the stupid question?
No. 2
That’s the second stupid question you’ve asked so far. Have a nice day.
nocompromise
no compos mentis
Note to Themis
Themis, I love what you and Robert Cox are doing. My new nickname says exactly where I stand.
No more “taking the high road” or “trying to be the better person” while our opponents employ Alinsky tactics, rent-a-mobs and other intimidation strategies.
The way I see it, if Janet Hasson and her cohorts at the Journal News wanted to sling mud at law-abiding citizens, then my response is — as they say in swimming — “Cannonbaaaaaaallll!”
By all means, let’s frolic in the mud! That’s where you, Themis, and other muckrakers come in. I don’t have access to some of the Westchester County databases that I’ve gleaned information from, but perhaps you do.
So here’s what I’ve dug up. Remember, this is all “publicly available” and “legally obtained” information, so that makes it OK to publish:
1. I can’t verify that this is the same guy who currently works as a local editor for the Journal News, but someone from Westchester County named Robert Brum got in a wee bit of trouble about a dozen years ago.
More specifically, public records list two rather unsavory cases involving a certain Robert Brum — one pertaining to domestic violence, the other an order of protection. Here are the case numbers:
50-02 BRUM ROBERT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PART 2002/01/02 CPL
DA00606-01 BRUM ROBERT PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK 2001/07/10
Boy, for the sake of the Journal News’ Robert Brum, I sure hope this just happens to be somebody else in Westchester County with the same name, don’t you, Themis?
2. If you do happen to have access to Westchester County databases, check the legal records, which feature cases such as this one (goodness, could the plaintiff be the same Marcela Rojas who’s been at the Journal News since 2003?):
10456-05 TORRES GILBERTO T
ROJAS MARCELA 2005/06/29 MAT
Highlights include a matrimonial judgment and a request for judicial intervention.
3. Perhaps you’d also enjoy thumbing through the Westchester property records of these individuals, who also bear the names of Journal News employees:
Caryn McBride, Terence Corcoran, Barbara Nackman and Eileen Zaccagnino.
Caryn McBride’s records mention “liens” and “280 Bronxville Owners Corp.,” which relates to the Bronxville Lodge cooperative building on Bronxville Road where she lives. Sure hope she gets those pesky liens straightened out!
And don’t forget YouTube, where our girl Caryn stars in a series of interview videos that establish her as the least animated lead character since “Weekend at Bernie’s.”
Robert Brum quick info
I’m kind of doubting the Robert Brum mentioned is the same Robert Brum from the Journal News but I make no guarantees.
Here’s some quick info I pulled up on Robert Brum though.
Robert S. Brum
Date of Birth: January 31, 1956 – don’t forget to wish him Happy Birthday in a few days!
Sign: Aquarius 😛
Voter ID: 97324926
Registration Date: 10-5-2010
Party: Democrat (what :o)
Address:
11 Deer Tree Ln, Briarcliff Manor, NY 10510-1752
Lives with:
Rose Fishbein-Brum (I’d a dropped the “Fishbein”)
Date of Birth: August 22, 1959
Sign: Leo (just barely)
Voter ID: 97324927
Registration Date: 10-5-2010
Party: Democrate (no way 🙂
Rose Fishbein-Brum Linkin page ???:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rose-fishbein-brum/31/3b0/596
More info on a Rose Fishbein-Brum (I can’t guarantee this is her info but how many Fishbein-Brum’s can there willingly be out there):
http://www.healthgrades.com/provider/rose-fishbein-brum-yw7pb/appointment
Licensed Social Worker
http://www.ehealthscores.com/providers/izd-lxzwcwlzct/ROSE-FISHBEIN-BRUM.html
Themis
Public Records
Unnecessary records access can be easily avoided putting certain restrictions. But records can be easily retrieved from recordsbase.com.
For more information regarding Illinois public records visit:
http://www.recordsbase.com/resources/public-records/illinois
COMMENTS ONCE AGAIN REQUIRE REGISTRATION
I just disabled anonymous commenting again.
For those not familiar with the site (and judging by the traffic and location of many recent visitors that is many of you) we normally only allow comments from registered users who are logged in.
Since we posted our Journal News employee map we have had hundreds of thousands of visitors, few of whom are from New Rochelle, NY and would likely become regular readers. To be fair to them and give them a chance to join the discussion I disabled the settings to require that a commenter first be logged in to the site.
We cannot leave it that was forever and this weekend seemed like the right time so from this point forward if you want to comment you will need to register and log in.
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Thanks
Robert Cox
Managing Editor
Talk of the Sound
Good…now the gutless cowardly JN employees…
will crawl back under their rocks.
They were only brave when they were anonymous or had armed guards outside their homes.
Thanks for all you did to ‘tear down’ the map, Bob.
Oh, and don’t forget, dear old Janet only took it down because she was forced, so don’t take down yours.
Poor Janet, whom will she fire to assuage her anger? How WILL the rag JN recoup their lost subscriptions and advertisers? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.
Now, on to getting Idoni II out of office and restoring New Rochelle. Were it so easy.
Hey Bob, can you hear the crickets?
Looks like all the slime JN employees and execs have retreated, brave only when they don’t have to register.
Or when they can hire armed guards, in ironic counterpoint to the invasion of privacy they perpetuated on their former subscribers.
Here’s hoping they go bankrupt.
“Public Information” is coming about The Journal News Employees
This is not the first time The Journal News has pulled this stunt. They obviously thought nothing of doing this to us a second time. It’s only a matter of time before they will do it again and again for the purposes of making a buck. We will soon be posting A LOT of Public Information about many of the major players at The Journal News like they have posted public information about many law-abiding registered gun owners, putting us and our families in danger. Not to mention all of the law enforcement who put criminals away, those who work in prison facilities and many judges who enforce the laws on the criminals. The Journal’s major players thought nothing about putting us and our families in danger by criminals. Maybe they and other news organizations will think twice before thinking it’s cute to pull a stunt like this ever again against United States Law-Abiding Citizens. You, The Journal News, started it. As you sow so shall you reap.
Here’s some “Public Records” Information about Janet Hasson ;8 P
The information we are providing is as accurate as possible. We make no guarantees that all information is 100% correct as this information is based off of Public Information sites.
We don’t care if you have finally taken your map down Journal News – Gannett. You have done your damage and you committed the same act upon Law-Abiding United States Citizens in 2006, so you will obviously do this again.
So… consider this post #1 with many more to come. You in the News Business may refer to this as “Sweeps Week” or Part 1 of a Multi-Part Investigation. Enjoy:
Janet “Suzanne” Hasson ( Maiden Name Hahn)
Janet Hasson’s Date of Birth: June 16, 1959
Washington State Digital Archives:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Home
Janet Hasson and Steven J. Hasson Marriage License Records:
Feel free to view copies of their Marriage License Application and Marriage License Certificate here:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/85C5162572218AA8CA3F283D1260C917
Janet Hasson and Steven John Hasson were Married on June 2, 1982
Steven John Hasson -Date of Birth: 7-29-1950
It appears that Janet and Steven have been divorced for a while, however…
Steven Hasson is the City Manager for La Pine, Oregon. Steven’s information can be found here:
http://www.ci.la-pine.or.us/departments.html
Steven Hasson has the following statement at that webpage:
“Steve wants to know what your concerns are so that they may be addressed. He may be reached at 541-536-1432 ext. 112
email: shasson@ci.la-pine.or.us “
Feel free to give him a call or e-mail him.
Here’s some good information about Janet Hasson regarding her work background which includes notation that Janet’s Hometown is Spokane Washington! Thank you Gannett for providing that juicy detail !! Looking back at Janet’s participation in The Journal News’ latest cute little stunt, I’m sure Janet and her family are Very Happy that you left that piece of information out there for us to enjoy researching. We would have tracked that information down anyway, however you just helped shorten our search. Thanks again !
http://www.gannett.com/article/99999999/PRESSRELEASES18/110602001/Janet-Hasson-named-president/publisher-at-The-Journal-News-in-Westchester-County–NY
Janet and Steven Hasson had at least 3 children before they divorced.
Jenny Lynn Hasson – Date of Birth: November 29, 1983
Nicholas “Nick” R. Hasson – Date of Birth: February 9, 1988
Paul Hasson – Date of Birth to be determined.
Facebook Pages for Janet Hasson and Family:
Janet Hasson’s Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/janet.hahnhasson#!/janet.hahnhasson
Steve Hasson’s Facbook Page: https://www.facebook.com/steve.hasson.14
(Great photo of Janet and Steve’s kids in the background on Steve’s Page)
Jenny Lynn (Hasson) Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/jenny.hasson
Nicholas “Nick” Hasson’s Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/nick.hasson1#!/nick.hasson1
Paul Hasson’s Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/paul.hasson.9
Back in 2000, Janet, Steven, Jenny and all used to live at 14281 W. Woodspring Dr. Boise Idaho, 83713 (They No Longer Live There So Leave the Current Residents Alone).
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It looks like some of Janet Hasson’s children have had a few Run-Ins with law enforcement, especially when they were living in Arizona (maybe Nick was visiting or vacationing?)
Nicholas R. Hasson – Date of Birth: Feb. 9, 1988
Case Title: State vs. Hasson, Nicholas R.
Nicholas Hasson’s mailing address listed at the time 319 Culver, Rochester, NY. 14607
Case # J-0801-CR-200800069
Filing Date: January 22, 2008
Case ID 55549152
Count 1
Report as Charge: MARIJUANA-POSSESS/USE
Count 2
Report as Charge: DRUG PARAPHERNALIA-POSSESS/USE
Event Date: March 7, 2008 –
Event Description: FTA WARRANT: ISSUED
I wonder why Janet Hasson is so concerned about the Public’s Safety regarding Law-Abiding Registered Gun Owners and doesn’t feel she should warn the Public about her own Son’s Drug Use, since… he broke the law.
Jenny Lynn Hasson – November 23, 1983
Case Title: State of AZ vs Hasson, Jenny Lynn
Jenny Lynn Hasson’s mailing address listed at the time: 8412 E LAKESHORE DR APT D. PRESCOTT VALLEY, AZ. 86314-8553
Case # M-0760-TR-200601028
Filing Date: March 22, 2006
Case Category: Traffic
Case ID: 52860400
Count 1
Report as Charge: SCHOOL ZONE SPEED “IN EXCESS OF 15 MPH”
WOW, NOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONSIDERABLE RISK TO THE LIVES OF “SCHOOL CHILDREN”. WHY ISN’T MOMMY (JANET) SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC ??
Count 2
Report as Charge: FAIL TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL RESP
Wow, No Insurance Jenny?? What happens if you had hit someone and MAIMED or KILLED THEM? How considerate of you when it comes to being a Responsible Adult when it comes to looking out for those who abide by the law, while you are not (ESPECIALLY TO CHILDREN IN A SCHOOL ZONE)! Mama Janet, why aren’t you warning the public about Your Daughter DRIVING WITHOUT INSURANCE IN SCHOOL ZONES WHERE CHILDREN COULD BE HIT OR WORSE?? Ooh that’s right, you only go after Law-Abiding Citizens of this country while ignoring the law breakers and criminals. Now it all makes sense…
Count 3
Report as Charge: FAIL TO TRANSFER REGISTRATION W/IN 30 DAYS
Hey Janet, I guess you’ve taught your family that CONSEQUENCES IN LIFE ONLY COME IF YOU FOLLOW THE LAW, RIGHT?? It sure looks that way. Great job at parenting and being such a great role model Janet!
MORE GOODIES AT Washington State Digital Archives:
Janet Hasson – Spokane Wa., Power of Attorney Record, Recording Date – December 7, 2001 :
Charles Hahn – Signor/Grantor
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/FFEF8DD023555F2F2387360C4DF1DEAF
Janet Hasson – Spokane Wa., Power of Attorney Record, Recording Date – December 7, 2001 :
Mary Anna Hahn – Signor/Grantor
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/06EAC34545D683ACF1CC3BAFD3AB12EE
Janet Hasson’s Sister: Julie Kathleen Hahn – Date of Birth: September 13, 1961
Julie Hahn Married William E. Stanfield on April 8, 1997
View that information at:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/CBB5E52FD8EE153828F208782F15F1A1
William E. Stanfield’s Date of Birth: December 22, 1963
Julie and William’s Marriage License Application can be viewed at:
http://media.digitalarchives.wa.gov/WA.Media/jpeg/92B80153C0F27771BA54CE2A83A18773_1.jpg
Janet Hasson – Spokane Wa., Power of Attorney Record, Recording Date – July 11, 1991 :
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/123CA1E34AB051119CF3ABAD8E8D9F1C
Janet Hasson – Quit Claim Deed, Recording Date – August 30, 1993:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/49C62245B43760968AC62CD0E7456D95
Janet Hasson – Deed of Trust, Recording Date – August 30, 1993:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/E4EE32C602F8056C61A1EBA8B2E29090
Janet Hasson – Warranty Deed, Recording Date – August 30, 1993:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/59825663C0D4A98F91DA5DF21D365E18
Janet Hasson – Warranty Deed, Recording Date – September 16, 1994:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/040D57068C5A676C69719C84D2F1B0CB
Janet Hasson – Release of Mortgage, Recording Date – October 24, 1994:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/B107B478349F6C0451EDD0C0318B22BA
Janet Hasson – Quit Claim Deed, Recording Date – March 3, 1999:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/573A57EE13261A21FF806F370F27ABAE
All of this information came from “Public Records” Janet Hasson. By the way, you can DELETE all the Photos you want from your FACEBOOK PAGES and HIDE or DELETE your Facebook Accounts to “KEEP YOUR INFORMATION UNSACCESSIBLE.” It’s too late though. We have already gathered up and saved all of the PHOTOS and VIDEOS you and yours “POSTED PUBLICLY” as well as all the other information you “POSTED PUBLICLY” for ALL THE WORLD TO SEE. You made your Facebook accounts, photos and videos disappear so fast the last time when the tables turned on you, after surprising so many other “LAW-ABIDING UNITED STATES CITIZENS”, when you thought it would be CUTE to put us in the Spotlight by Surprise. Some of your photos and videos may be posted soon for all to view (that’s not just limited to you Janet). Your photos, videos and all have been saved for Special Occassions like the one you unexpectedly threw for us, Your Fellow Law-Abiding Americans! By the way, just let us know if you need a copy of any of those photos or videos. We’ll be happy to post them for you should you lose any of them.
And there’s a lot more to come. More detailed information on many of you HYPOCRITES who thought it would be cute to do this to us. There’s more dirt out there that will be posted about your past as well as your family’s past in regards to those who are at least at the age of 18 or older “now”. Some of you and your family members have some dirt that your friends, your employers or even your family member’s employers may be interested in. You’re minds are probably already racing, thinking about all of those incidents where you or your family members got “Caught Breaking the Law” and you’re thinking: “Oh Shit, I hope they didn’t dig up information on That One Time I or Junior… or That Time back in College when…” Yes, it’s time for you and your families to wonder what might come back to haunt each of you. Do some of you or your family members have a DWI in your past? Maybe more than one?? I wonder if your employers or your family members’ employers look not so favorably upon finding out that information?
You should NEVER have committed such a DISPICABLE ACT upon Law-Abiding Americans ! Especially after doing this to us before in 2006. We absolutely did NOT deserve that! You are Pious Trash who are no better than us but you think you are and you enjoyed doing this to us! We tend to find that those who scrutinize others and hound them the most, are the biggest violators of that same scrutiny. You apparently have other employees at The Journal News whose addresses didn’t come up on “Your Map” (some have already been posted) even though they have a handgun registered at their residence. That’s odd? Either, that would mean you are purposely blocking that information from getting out or you’re incompetent with the information you gathered. If you’re incompetent in posting accurate information about the public (such as including people on your map who don’t have a gun but you’re saying they do), I’m thinking that would be good grounds to sue you on. If you have posted accurate information on your maps, then one can only conclude that you are purposely blocking your employees’ information from being shown on “Your Maps” to Protect Them. I’m thinking that may also open you up for a lawsuit when you freely distribute everyone’s information but “Your Own”. So… are you incompetent or just playing favorites? It’s got to be one or the other.
You thought it would be cute to play games with us. You must have sorely mistaken us for Republicans in Congress. We are not. We strike back when struck and we can play your SAME GAME better than you can because there’s a lot more of us that you went after and plan on going after in the future, than there are of you at the Journal News and Gannett. You wanted to play this game with us. Well then… Let’s Play !
Here’s some “Public Records” Information about Janet Hasson ;8 P
Signed, Themis
You must have a lot of free
You must have a lot of free time on your hands.
Time on his hands
Did it ever occur to you that not everybody is a drone with a mandated 9 to 5?
I am retired. I have lots of time. I could have done the work above, but bluntly, I didn’t think of it. Would have been more fun than what I did do, however.
I would suggest you do
I would suggest you do something more positive with all your free time in retirement.
Here’s some “Public Records” Information about Janet Hasson ;8 P
Sounds like what I’m posting may be hitting a little to close to “your home” and making you a bit nervous. GOOD!
You wouldn’t be employed by The Journal News or Gannett now would you?? We didn’t start this fight and it wasn’t the first time they (The Journal News) has done this to us. They obviously thought nothing of doing this to us again.
It’s time they got a taste of their own medicine that makes them cringe and worry about what’s coming next.
For the person who stated they were retired and said they would have had more fun doing what we did, you made the comment “I would suggest you do something more positive with all your free time in retirement.” I have to ask you, why do you care what we do with our free time? Why are you so negatively opposed to us putting the spotlight on those at The Journal News who did this to us? I can’t think of a ‘more positive thing to do with our free time’ right now than fight fire with fire. Post their Public Records for all to see as well as all of their information that they freely shared with the world… that is,shared with the world until it was posted in a place that’s not Pro-Journal News.
I’m betting that you are connected with Gannett or their employees. How do you like it when the shoe is on the other foot. We like it A WHOLE LOTS !!
Enjoy the exosure that you thrust upon all of us. You had it coming for doing this to us twice now.
Themis
😛
Who is “us”….who
Who is “us”….who is”we”…it appears that paranoia is in the air again.
The “Us” and “We” are all
The “Us” and “We” are all Law-Abiding Registered Gun Owning American Citizens of the United States who The Journal News employees brought their Witch Hunt against. Some of “Us” were listed on their maps and some were outside of their maps but could have just as easily been listed by their maps or any other news organizations who think it’s cute to pull this kind of stunt. “We” (as in several of us) have been collecting A LOT of information on “All Y’ALL” and now you appear to be the one who is paranoid about what’s to come, who is going to be listed and what dirt will be aired that’s in Public Records, just like our friends at The Journal News did to us. If I were you I wouldn’t worry so much about who “We” are. I’d worry more about whether you or your friends are about to receive the same exposure that you “Forced” upon us. If you’re not directly connected with The Journal News or their employees, you shouldn’t really have anything to worry about now should you? So… stop being so paranoid, sit back and enjoy the show. ;p
Themis
Themis…as you may know…or
Themis…as you may know…or not know…in mythology is a greek “goddess” overseeing Law and Order….you should practice that and cease trying to be a vigilante. Other than me…no one seems to care about your info.
Just bringing some balance to the fight the Journal started.
Let’s see “Themis is a greek goddess overseeing Law and Order”. I believe Themis holds the Scales of Justice in one hand and a Sword in the other. Sounds like Themis was focused on balancing justice with one hand, while always being ready for a fight with the other. Looks like employees at The Journal like bullying law-abiding Americans with their power of the press. Just balancing justice while taking their fight right back at them. Judging from the many people who have been providing information about Journal employees, it doesn’t look like I’m alone. You call me a (or us) vigilante(s). I think I (or we) prefer the label “Patriots”. You write “Other than me…no one seems to care about your info”. You sure do seem to care an awful lot about what I’m posting here. I have to wonder why. I’m pretty sure the whole purpose of this blog topic was to expose the hypocrites at the Journal for what they have done to us. Maybe you were not aware of that. It doesn’t look like I’m alone in what I’m doing here. You, however, seem to be the minority and for some reason, sound like you’re hoping I (we) will just go away. Sounds like what I (we) are doing is upsetting or frustrating you. I’d say what we are doing is working. Your dismissive comments give “Us” (me) strength to keep doing what we are doing. Thanks for the encouragement.
Why Map Map Stays
My Washington Examiner Op-Ed is now up: Why I will not be taking down my map of Journal News employees
I want to reminder readers especially those who are new that usually our comments section requires registration to comment. We lifted that requirement since we published the gun map.
We will be reverting back to requiring readers to be registered and logged in to comment this weekend.
Good for you, Bob…
Janet was not sincere.
Ignore everyone and keep up the good work…..and your map.
OBAMA Guns to Jihadists: New International Fast & Furious!
OBAMA IN GUNS-TO-JIHADISTS COVER-UP!
‘A kind of international Fast and Furious in Benghazi’
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/rand-paul-obama-in-guns-to-jihadists-cover-up/#5x7Oka7mdv8A3HQI.99
“Obama administration was smuggling guns to jihadist rebels in a possible “international Fast and Furious” that the White House has tried to cover up.”the guns scheme could help explain the reason for the coordinated attacks against the U.S. special mission and CIA annex in Benghazi last September.
“There is also some concern about whether or not Libyan arms are being ferried through Turkey into Syrian rebels and whether or not that had something to do with the cover-up that came out of the administration when the administration was saying that, ‘Oh, this attack in Benghazi had something to do with a film.’
“Maybe that was to cover up that there was some kind of gun smuggling going on over there, some kind of international fast and furious was going on in Libya and that this was a cover-up,” Paul continued. “These are some of the questions that we are going to have for Hillary Clinton when she comes before our committee.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/rand-paul-obama-in-guns-to-jihadists-cover-up/#5x7Oka7mdv8A3HQI.99
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/rand-paul-obama-in-guns-to-jihadists-cover-up/#5x7Oka7mdv8A3HQI.99
Eric Holder
I bet Eric Holder is hoping he can cover his ass on this one also, by bluffing his way through like he is still trying to by not releasing documents! LOL
It didn’t work on the current Fast and Furious investigations in the US! Holder is STILL trying to block public information requests asked of him By congress! He Still is responsible for Illegal guns going into Cartel Hands! To whom or what powers do his true Loyalties “really” Lie!?
ALL LAW enforcement & MILITARY Who SWORE OATH to CONSTITUTION!
TO: All LAW ENFORCEMENT, POLICE, ACTIVE MILITARY, CURRENT AND FORMER, ENLISTED OR OFFICER! IF YOU Have SWORN an OATH TO UPHOLD THE U.S. CONSTITUTION and AS SUCH, THE U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS! IF YOU WEAR or EVER Have Worn A UNIFORM and SWORE AN OATH to UPHOLD and DEFEND THE UNITED STATES,.. THIS IS AS IMPORTANT AS YOUR “ORDERS OF THE DAY”!!! THESE OATHS YOU TOOK ARE CURRENT and BINDING for LIFE!
-Make Viral, and PASS ON THIS MESSAGE!
Friday, January 18, 2013
http://beforeitsnews.com/blogging-citizen-journalism/2013/01/anonymous-message-to-the-law-and-military-make-viral-2445052.html
https://oathkeepers.org/oath/about/
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
Oath of Enlistment:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Officers Oath:
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God
Your OATH NEVER Expires! It’s time to KEEP IT!
https://oathkeepers.org/oath/about/
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
SHERIFFS STANDING UP AGAINST OBAMA’s GUN CONTROL!
List of Sheriffs Standing Up Against Obama’s Gun Control, (This not even close to all of them!) Visit: Constitutional Sheriffs at: http://constitutionalsheriffs.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network
1. Jackson County, Kentucky Sheriff Denny Peyman
2. Linn County, Oregon Sheriff Tim Mueller
3. Madison County, Idaho Sheriff Roy Klingler
4. Crook County, Oregon Sheriff Jim Hensley
5. Douglas County, Oregon Sheriff John Hanlin
6. Curry County, Oregon Sheriff John Bishop
7. Livingston County, Missouri Sheriff Steve Cox
8. Smith County, Texas Sheriff Larry Smith
9. Josephine County, Sheriff Gil Gilbertson
10. Madison Count, Alabama Sheriff Blake Dorning
11. Larimer County, Colorado Sheriff Justin Smith
12. Charleston County, South Carolina Sheriff Al Cannon
13. Morgan County, Alabama Sheriff Ana Franklin
14. Houston County, Alabama Sheriff Andy Hughes
15. Gilmer County, Georgia Sheriff Stacy Nicholson
16. Pine County, Minnesota Sheriff Robin Cole
17. Grant County, Oregon, Sheriff Glenn Palmer
18. Coos County, Oregon Sheriff Craig Zanni
19. Johnson County, Missouri Sheriff Charles Heiss
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24. Grant County, Oregon Sheriff Glenn Palmer
25. Lawrence County, Missouri Sheriff Bard DeLay
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28. Tehama County, California Sheriff David Hencraft
29. Lassen County, California Sheriff Dean Growden
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31. Modoc County, California Sheriff Mike Poindexter
32. Mendocino County, California Sheriff Thomas Allman
33. Plumas County, California Sheriff Greg Hagwood
34. Humboldt County, California Sheriff Mike Downey
35. Smith County, Texas Sheriff Larry Smith
36. Madison County Alabama Sheriff Blake Dorning
37. Charleston County South Carolina Sheriff Al Cannon
38. Morgan County Alabama Sheriff Ana Franklin
39. Houston County Alabama Sheriff Andy Hughes
40. Gilmer County Georgia Sheriff Stacy Nicholson
41 Canyon County Idaho Sheriff Kieran Donahue
42. Fresno County, California Sheriff Margaret Mims
43. Washington County, Oregon Sheriff Pat Garrett
44. Multnomah County, Washington Sheriff Dan Staton
45. Yavapai County, Arizona Sheriff Scott Mascher
46. Boone County, Ohio Sheriff Micahel A. Helmig,
47. Clermont County, Ohio Sheriff A.J. Rodenberg
48. Morgan County, Alabama Sheriff Ana Franklin
49. Maricopa County, Ariznona Sheriff Joe Arpaio
50. El Paso County, Colorado Sheriff Terry Maketa
51. Weld County, Colorado Sheriff John Cooke
52. Oconee County, Georgia Sheriff Scott Berry
53. Gilmer County, Sheriff Stacy Nicholson
54. Canyon County, Idaho Sheriff Kieran Donahue
55. Johnson County, Missouri Sheriff Frank Denning
56. Mesa County Colorado Sheriff Stan Hilke
57. Collin County Texas Sheriff Terry Box58. Spartanburg County, South Carolina Sheriff Chuck Wright
*58-88. New Mexico, 30 of the state’s 33 county Sheriff’s will not enforce Federal Laws that violate the Constitution.
Visit Constitutional Sheriffs at: http://constitutionalsheriffs.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/01/19/25-constitutional-sheriffs/
Utah Sherrifs’ Assoc.,.. Letter Opposing Executive Orders!
FEDS CAN”T TAKE AWAY PEOPLE OF UTAH’s 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS!!
By McKenzie Romero, January 18th, 2013 Letter to Pres. OBAMA,..
SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah Sheriffs’ Association has written an open letter to President Barack Obama, outlining its opposition to executive orders announced this week altering gun laws. Within four hours of being posted on the Cache County Sheriff’s Office Facebook page, the letter had garnered MORE THAN 150 COMMENTS AND 1,000 “LIKES.”
The letter opens conveying the sheriffs’ grief over the recent Connecticut school shooting, as well as Utah tragedies such as the Trolley Square shooting in 2007, before declaring it is “foolish and prejudiced” to demonize firearms in such tragedies rather than the criminals who wield them.
“As professional peace officers, if we understand nothing else, we understand this: Lawful violence must sometimes be employed to deter and stop criminal violence,” the letter states. “Consequently, the citizenry must continue its ability to keep and bear arms, including arms that adequately protect them from all types of illegality.”
The letter urges that discussions surrounding gun law reform take place in Congress, rather than through executive order, and it asks lawmakers to consider the priorities of the nation’s Founding Fathers in that debate. It closes by promising the elected sheriffs will strive to protect Utah’s Constitutional rights.
“NO FEDERAL OFFICIAL WILL BE PERMITTED TO DESCEND UPON OUR CONSTITUENTS, and TAKE FROM THEM WHAT THE BILL OF RIGHTS, ‘IN PARTICULAR AMENDMENT 2’ -HAS GIVEN THEM!”
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=23782428&nid=148&title=sheriffs-feds-cant-take-away-utahns-2nd-amendment-rights
HITLER USED KIDS IN GUN CONFISCATION PROPOGANDA PICTURES ALSO!!
Picture of Hitler Using Children as “props” to announce German Nazis GUN CONFISCATION in the 1930’s: http://www.tpath.org/images/b378a77def549106022191bc6c051b98_vl0m.png
Other Tyrants Who Have Used Children As Props:
http://www.infowars.com/other-tyrants-who-have-used-children-as-props/
Obama use of children as props mirrors Hitler, Stalin: http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-use-of-children-as-props-mirrors-hitler-stalin
HITLER quote: USEING CHILDREN AS POLITICAL PAWNS
REMEMBER This WHEN YOU SEE OBAMA USING CHILDREN AS PROPS,!…
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“THE STATE MUST DECLARE THE CHILD TO BE THE MOST PRECIOUS TREASURE OF THE PEOPLE. ,(then),
AS LONG AS THE GOVERNMENT IS PERCEIVED AS WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CHILDREN,
THE PEOPLE WILL HAPPILY ENDURE ALMOST ANY CURTAILMENT OF LIBERTY AND ALMOST ANY DEPRIVATION”
Published in,.. MEIN KAMPF, Written By:.. ADOLF HITLER
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THOUGHTS ON HOW TYRANTS CONTROL BY: ARISTOTLE
“Tyrants preserve themselves by sowing fear and mistrust among the citizens by means of spies, by distracting them with foreign wars, by eliminating men of spirit who might lead a revolution, by humbling the people, and making them incapable of decisive action…”
… Aristotle
Obama Listens MoreTo Italy/ Vatican Than To AMERICANS!?!?!
Vatican praises Obama’s gun control plan as ‘step in right direction’ January 20, The Vatican has praised President Barack Obama’s plan to curb gun violence, saying that it is a ‘step in the right direction,’ especially in the wake of the Newtown, Connecticut school shooting. Rev. Lombardi said that 47 religious leaders have appealed to members of the U.S. Congress ‘to limit firearms that are making society pay an unacceptable price in terms of massacres and senseless deaths’. According to the New York Daily News, in an editorial carried on Vatican Radio, lining up the Vatican’s moral support in favor of firearm limits, Lombardi said that he was with them. He added that the initiatives announced by the American administration for limiting and controlling the spread and use of weapons are certainly a step in the right direction, the report said. He is facing stiff opposition in the U.S. Congress and from powerful gun lobbies. Considering that Americans possess ‘about 300 million firearms,’ Lombardi said that ‘people cannot fool themselves that it is enough to limit the number and use (of guns) to impede in the future horrendous massacres like that of Newtown that shook the conscience of America and world, as well as that of children and adults.’ He said that while massacres are ‘carried out by unbalanced or hate-driven persons, there is no doubt that they are carried out with firearms’. (Yes, The Vatican has Hands On Experience Helping unbalanced and hate-driven persons in ww2 that TOOK GUNS AWAY FROM THE POPULATION, then Killed Innocent Citizens, then helped them..ESCAPE!) Lombardi renewed Vatican appeals for disarmament and encouragement for measures to fight ‘the production, commerce and contraband of all types of arms,’ an industry fueled by ‘enormous economic and power interests,’ the report added. (The Vatican Is very familiar with “enormous economic and power interests”) The Chicago MOB of Obama, and The Vatican are on an the “Same Page” and should work well together!!! AHH, CRIME FAMILIES WORKING TOGETHER!, A MATCH MADE IN ITALY/ HEAVEN!
**** 1 COMMENT-
Hey Italy, You would be speaking German right now if we Americans, didn’t come over with our FULLY AUTOMATIC actual ASSAULT WEAPONS!!!, MIND YOUR OWN DAM BUSINESS!!! and YOU ARE WELCOME, and UP YOURS!!!
IN AMERICA WE KEEP RELIGION, and YOUR RELIGIOUS opinion’s OUT OF OUR AMERICAN POLITICS! BY LAW!!! SO, IF YOU ARE TELLING ME OBAMA IS LISTENING TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND OR ITALY,.. JOIN THE CLUB. OBAMA ALREADY SEEMS TO LISTEN TO THE PRESIDENT OF MEXICO MORE THAN AMERICAN LAW ABIDING CITIZENS OPINIONS!!! WHY DON”T YOU APPOINT OBAMA POPE IN ITALY!? HE WOULD BE A LOT MORE HAPPY AND MORE BENEFICIAL TO AMERICA IF HE WAS IN ITALY AS THE POPE! THEN HE CAN TELL EVERYONE THAT IS CATHOLIC, OR ITALIAN WHAT TO DO WITHOUT A CONGRESS GETTING IN THE WAY! HE WOULD ALSO LIKE THE PART WHERE PEOPLE BOW TO HIM, AND THEN KISS HIS RING!!! DID I MENTION THE PART WHERE YOU COULD BE PRAYING TO HITLER IN GERMAN, AND SALUTING SWASTIKAS IF IT WASN’T FOR OUR MACHINE GUNS!!?!!
****THE VATICAN, DURING the End of WW2 HELPED 9000 of THE NAZIS ELITE and OFFICERS through ODESSA, ESCAPE BY MAKING FALSE DOCUMENTS FOR MANY OF THE WORST OF HITLERS HENCHMEN ESCAPE TO SOUTH AMERICA! Do the names Adolf Eichmann, Auschwitz doctor Josef Mengele and Treblinka death camp commander Franz Stangl Sound familiar to you!?!?
“The files show that the contact point for many was German Bishop Alois Hudal, priest-confessor to the German Catholic community in Rome.” http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117093/Secret-files-reveal-9-000-Nazi-war-criminals-fled-South-America-WWII.html
http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-praises-obamas-gun-control-plan-step-direction-080725018.html
NEVER FORGET!!!
“I saw a movie once where only the police and military had guns…”
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EVERYTHING STATED IN THE COMMENTS IS FACT!!!!
* NEVER FORGET!!!
“I saw a movie once where only the police and military had guns…
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States Say NO! to gun grabs, TX., MO., WY., TN., SD., SC., MS
Texas, Missouri Join Other States Looking To Block Gun Bans, by Mike Maharrey, Jan. 16, 2013gun_grab, States have opportunity to say ‘No!’ to gun grabs
On the same day President Obama called for a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines, a Texas legislator filed a bill asserting, “Not in my state!” On Wednesday, the Lone Star State joined five other states already considering legislation that would block enforcement federal firearms acts in violation of the Second Amendment. Texas Rep. John Otto (R-Dayton) announced the filing of HB553 on Wednesday morning. The bill would make it a misdemeanor for any state or federal official to “enforce or attempt to enforce any acts, laws, executive orders, agency orders, rules or regulations of any kind whatsoever of the United States government relating to confiscating any firearm, banning any firearm, limiting the size of a magazine for any firearm, imposing any limit on the ammunition that may be purchased for any firearm, taxing any firearm or ammunition therefore, or requiring the registration of any firearm or ammunition therefore.” “The Second Amendment won’t enforce itself,” Tenth Amendment Center communications director Mike Maharrey said. “The Bill of Rights is nothing but a piece of parchment without some power behind it stepping in and holding the federal government in check. James Madison said when the feds pass an unwarrantable measure, the means of opposition to it are powerful and at hand. He was referring to the state governments. Texas has the opportunity to do just what the founders intended, interpose and resist an out of control federal government and protect the most basic rights of its citizens.” Texas doesn’t stand alone in the fight. On Tuesday, Missouri Rep. Casey Guernsey (R-Bethany) introduced HB170, a similar bill that would block enforcement of a wide range of unconstitutional federal restrictions on firearms. The bill affirms the state’s authority to regulate firearms made and owned exclusively within Missouri, and makes it a felony for any federal agent to attempt to enforce a federal regulation on such weapons. The bill then goes a step further,.. Any federal law, rule, regulation, or order created or effective on or after January 1, 2013 shall be unenforceable in the state of Missouri if the law, rule, regulation, or order attempts to:
(1) Ban or restrict ownership of a semi-automatic firearm or any magazine of a firearm; or
(2) Require any firearm, magazine, or other firearm accessory to be registered in any manner.
Maharrey called proactive steps by state legislatures crucial. “The president made it clear that he will push Congress hard to ban certain weapons, a clear violation of the spirit of the Second Amendment, which forbids any abridgement of the right to keep and bear arms. Banning clearly abridges. Look the word up; it’s pretty clear,” he said. “Like every American, I am horrified at the evil perpetrated by the killer at Sandy Hook elementary. But we cannot use one act of evil as an excuse to perpetrate another. And make no mistake; allowing the federal government to strip away our fundamental rights is an act of calculated evil. We can’t trust the feds to reign in their own power. The states must step in and protect their people.”
Wyoming, Tennessee, South Dakota, Mississippi and South Carolina also have similar bills pending before their legislatures. Sources close to the Tenth Amendment Center indicate as many as a dozen more states could follow suit in the coming weeks.
To track Second Amendment Preservation legislation across the U.S. visit: tracking.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2ndamendment
Contact: Mike Maharrey, Communications director
O: 213.935.0553
media@tenthamendmentcenter.com
http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com
http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/01/16/texas-missouri-join-other-states-looking-to-block-gun-bans/
“When the people fear their
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
Janet Hasson
Interesting, when I look at the name Janet Hasson I see Janet H”ass”on.
Janet Hasson
Could that actually be an anagram for “Ass.Hat.On” ?
Good for you, Bob, don’t do it.
“Before you ask. “No, we are not taking down our map”.”
Privacy invading Janet didn’t take down her map out of any regret or altruism, she took it down because the law made her do it.
JN-A&P, JN Is BUYING PEOPLE with $20. gift cards to A&P
Michele Varley-Lawlor · Iona College
I Was in the A&P today and met a man trying to “BUY” people with $20 gift cards to the A&P if they signed up for a subscription to the journal news. I was proud of my fellow neighbors who were as outraged as I was. I came home and called A&P head quarters telling them I will no longer be shopping there if they are going to support the journal news. You went way over the line and your arrogance is astounding!
“We would love to hear from you!”,
A&P, corporate, 2 Paragon Drive, Montvale, New Jersey, 07645,
Customer Relations: 1-866-443-7374,
then #3 for A&P, then #2 for customer service,
or TO LEAVE MESSAGE ANYTIME! Mon-Fri. 8-4pm
For a A&P, Store Near you TO CAll:
http://www.apfreshonline.com/pages_aboutUs_SL.asp
JOURNAL NEWS COMMENT PAGE:
http://www.lohud.com/comments/article/20130118/NEWS02/301180125/Letter-from-publisher-gun-map
She’s still arrogant.
http://www.lohud.com/article/20130118/NEWS02/301180125/A-letter-from-Journal-News-publisher-Janet-Hasson
JN reader comments left for Hasson on J. News own News Sight!
JOURNAL News’s own TOP Commentator’s, comments Left for Janet Hasson about “Letter from publisher on gun map” written by Janet HASSON,.. There are 50-100+ left everyday like the ones below, and there are MANY MORE!
****Tony Francis · Top Commenter
It was far from only permits holder who were outraged!? It was anyone concerned with a right to privacy and anyone concerned with public safety! This was clearly a vindictive move. An aggressive move against a perceived enemy. A group thought to represent something evil in society. The problem is, this group (permit holders) are as law abiding as society in general, if not more so. We all sought solutions to a terrible tragedy but the paper failed to properly evaluate where the brunt of the gun violence rests. Most of the gun deaths stem from illegal weapons (mostly handguns)and rarely is a permit holder involved. When they are, it is almost always justified due to self defense.
****Sean W. Surrey · Top Commenter
Maybe start reporting news instead of creating controversy. No one wanted to be ‘informed’ of who has gun permits. Creating a hostile environment for law abiding citizens is rather crass. If you for law abiding citizens is rather crass. If you want your papers out of the red ink and back into the black, try not being so yellow in your journalism.
****Frank Yost · Home Based Counselor at Mountain River Counseling, LLC, Ms. Hasson, Would you please print your address and whether or not you have (or have not) the means to protect your home and your family from people who may stop by to visit with less-than-honorable reasons? Since you feel so strongly about gun ownership, would you also refrain from using a security firm to protect your place of work and your employees as well? Or did you request that only unarmed, non-permit holding agents stand guard? Just curious.
****Michele Varley-Lawlor · Iona College
Was in the a&p today and met a man trying to “buy” people with $20 gift cards to the a&p if they signed up for a subscription to the journal news. I was proud of my fellow neighbors who were as outraged as I was. I came home and called a&p head quarters telling them I will no longer be shopping there if they are going to support the journal news. You went way over the line and your arrogance is astounding!
****Steven Redlon · U.S. Army Ordnance Center & School,. A Newspaper does not have the authority to play judge and jury. Your publication is very lucky nobody was hurt or killed. Very irresponsible journalism that has nothing to do with reporting news.
****Patty Fleishell,. You did this to give parents an opportunity to make careful decisions about their children’s safety? Why? Because without YOU, parents are incapable of making careful decisions about their children’s safety? You sanctimonious witch.
http://www.lohud.com/comments/article/20130118/NEWS02/301180125/Letter-from-publisher-gun-map
Congrats to Bob!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/journal-news-removes-gun-map_n_2507382.html?utm_hp_ref=media
Armed Security Journal News Executives
On veritasvisuals on youtube I saw Plainclothes Security tell people on public property in front of a Journal News executive house that they had to leave, they were trespassing. Is this real licensed Security or Private Detective or off duty Law Enforcement. If off duty Law Enforcement do they have the proper Security or Private Detective licenses to engage in such employment? Are they armed? I also saw a Police Officer tell the people that they could not record him, the Police Officer. This is wrong, Gilk v. Gunniffee, 655 F.3d 78, 85 (1st Cir. 2001). Police can be recorded doing their official duties.
Is anyone available to return to that executive executive’s house with multiple recorders?
5yr old Girl, suspention, for bubble gun makeing verbal comment
Pa. Kindergartner Suspended for Bubble Gun Remark
MOUNT CARMEL, Pa. January 19, 2013 (AP)
A 5-year-old Pennsylvania girl who told another girl she was going to shoot her with a pink toy machine that blows soapy bubbles has been suspended from kindergarten. Her family has hired an attorney to fight the punishment, which initially was 10 days but was reduced to two.
Attorney Robin Ficker says Mount Carmel Area School District officials labeled the girl a “terrorist threat” for the bubble gun remark, made Jan. 10 as both girls waited for a school bus.
Ficker says the girl didn’t even have the bubble gun Machine with her and has never fired a real gun. He says she’s “the least terroristic person in Pennsylvania.”
School district solicitor Edward Greco tells pennlive.com ( http://bit.ly/13Nu0QF ) officials are looking into the case. He said Friday school officials aren’t at liberty to discuss disciplinary actions.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/pa-kindergartner-suspended-bubble-gun-remark-18255318
HOW DAM STUPID ARE THE TEACHERS TEACHING KIDS TODAY? APPARENTLY REALLY STUPID! THE TEACHERS AND THE SCHOOL ARE THE TERRORISTS IN THIS STORY!!!
2X people Favor MORE GUNS, over banning Guns to reduce crime!
Fox News poll: Twice as many favor more guns over banning guns to reduce crime, By Dana Blanton, January 18, 2013, FoxNews.com
Nearly twice as many voters say there would be less violent crime if more law-abiding Americans owned guns, than if guns were banned.
In addition, while American voters generally favor strengthening gun laws, 71 percent do not think tougher laws can stop shootings like the one last month in Newtown, Connecticut. Some 22 percent say new laws can prevent the next Sandy Hook.
These are just some of the findings from a Fox News poll released Friday. Majorities of gun owners (81 percent), non-gun owners (58 percent), Democrats (58 percent), independents (72 percent) and Republicans (85 percent) say the people who do these kinds of things “will always find the guns” to commit violent acts. The Fox News poll asked a similar question after previous shootings and the one-in-five believing that tougher laws could make a difference has mostly held steady. After the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech, 19 percent of voters felt stricter laws could help. That went to 21 percent after the Tucson shooting involving Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (2011) and 22 percent in the new poll. Twenty children and six adults were killed in the December mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown. The most popular suggestions are requiring criminal background checks on all gun buyers (with 91 percent favoring this proposal), providing services for mentally ill people who “show violent tendencies” (89 percent) and improving enforcement of existing laws (86 percent). Large majorities also favor mandating mental-health checks on gun buyers (83 percent) and requiring criminal background checks on anyone buying ammunition (80 percent). Smaller majorities favor putting armed guards in schools (60 percent), banning high-capacity clips (56 percent), banning assault weapons (54 percent), and reducing “access to violent movies and video games” (52 percent).
The least popular suggestion tested — and the only one a majority opposes — is allowing teachers and school officials to carry guns on school grounds (42 percent favor, 52 percent oppose). While large majorities of all demographic groups favor universal background checks, there are wide differences on other proposals. For example, on the bid to ban assault weapons, women favor it by a margin of 26 percentage points, while men oppose it by 4 points.
Democrats favor banning assault weapons by a 49-point margin, while Republicans oppose it by a 32-point margin. Gun owners oppose banning assault weapons by a 14-point margin, while non-gun owners favor it by 44 points. It is worth noting Republicans (65 percent) are much more likely than Democrats (38 percent) to be gun owners. Most voters believe action will be taken on gun laws this year. They think gun legislation is much more likely to get passed (77 percent) than, for instance, immigration reform (48 percent), which is something Obama has said is a second-term priority. Overall, voters are about twice as likely to say there would be less violent crime in the U.S. if more law-abiding people had guns, than if guns were banned (58 percent to 28 percent). And by an 11 percentage-point margin, voters consider protecting the constitutional right to own a gun more important than protecting citizens from gun violence (51-40 percent). Meanwhile, by an extremely wide 50-point margin, voters think gun permit holders have the right to keep that information private. A New York newspaper, not far from where the Newtown shooting took place, published the names and addresses of individuals with gun permits in its area. Voters have mixed feelings over who was more at risk after the information was published — those living in homes listed as having a gun (35 percent) or those not having a gun (45 percent). Another 12 percent said both were equally at risk.
In response to the post-Newtown push for new gun restrictions, the National Rifle Association suggested putting armed guards in schools and rejected most other proposals. A 56-percent majority of voters have a favorable opinion of the NRA, up significantly from 43 percent in March 2000. The number having a positive opinion of the group roughly matches the number of voters who have a gun in their home. The NRA’s favorable rating among gun-owning households is 71 percent, while among non-gun households it is 38 percent.
Finally, the 52 percent of voters saying someone in their household owns a gun is up from 45 percent in January 2011, and is the highest level of stated gun ownership in a Fox poll. Interviews conducted from 1999 through 2011 found between 42 and 50 percent of voters reported having a gun in their home. If guns were outlawed, nearly two-thirds of gun-owners say they would defy the government and keep their guns (65 percent).
The Fox News poll is based on land line and cell phone interviews with 1,008 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from January 15 to January 17. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/18/fox-news-poll-twice-as-many-favor-more-guns-over-banning-guns-to-reduce-violent/
“Self-serving claptrap from a
“Self-serving claptrap from a woman who thought she could pick a fight at a time and place of her choosing, declare the rules for the fight and call the fight when she had enough.”
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You know the old saying. Never bring a newspaper to a gunfight 😉
Congrats on speaking truth to power
Journal News (JN)
JN did not cave, they made a smart move. The law states until a person request that their information be removed, than JN had the right to keep it posted. Their decision was to save money from processing thousands of requests. What a cheap way out. How about JN pushing laws that change what is public accessible info and what is publishable info. I will do whatever is within my power to keep the employees of JN posted on a website. Thanks to Robert for keeping the map up. I made a substantial contribution in the past and then fostered others to contribute thru a matching contribution. The map will stay up until you fund to change the laws. It’s cheaper for me to fund the site, than try to change the laws. I just made another substantial contribution to ensure the map stays up for a long time.
DAM
Journal News (JN) I SECOND THAT!!!
I’ll Give what I am able to, to help keep things going also!
ROBERT THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING YOU ARE DOING!!! NOT JUST FOR THE IMMEDIATE AREA, BUT FOR PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY!!! THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THIS POST RUNNING!!!
JN, GUN FREE ZONE Co. vs (Good guys NO guns) vs SHADOWS!
The JOURNAL NEWS Company (Gun Free Zone Co.) SAID: They published a “MAP” of where “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” Live (with Federal Checks, NO Criminal or mental illness, Gun permits issued by state, and professional Training), posting ” GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” Names and Addresses for anyone to see,.(whether you live in the “GOOD” community or not),.
So, “ANY People of ANY community” (GOOD or BAD People) can, if they want, take that information and find out more about “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” personal information on their own, of anyone on that list, by cross referencing with other web sights on the internet for any reason, GOOD or BAD!?!
And, for as far as the Journal News Co.(GUN FREE ZONE Co.) was concerned were saying it was,. “For the ‘GOOD’ of the community”,.
Then the “GOOD PEOPLE” of the community” Started to write letters to Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.), saying this is “NOT GOOD for the community” and why did you did this?!?” ,..,. and “”WHAT GOOD” comes from publishing Private information of ‘GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” (law abiding, FBI checked people) information AS IF they were Criminals?!?
“GOOD PEOPLE of the community” did not like that the Journal News CO. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) published this information and asked Journal news to take there “MAP” of where “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS”, down,.
but Journal News Employees (Good people NO guns) Refused,. and Then said they will NOT TAKE DOWN the “MAP” of Private information of where “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” live!,. “Because they have a right to publish this information just because they want to”, even if it is upsetting the “GOOD PEOPLE of the community” (“GOOD PEOPLE WITH and / or WITHOUT GUNS”)
So then, the “GOOD PEOPLE of the community” (“GOOD PEOPLE without GUNS” Decided to make their own “MAP” that shows where the Employees of Journal News Co. (Good people NO guns & GUN FREE ZONE Co.) live and also their personal and private information like they did to the “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS”.,.
The “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” backed up and Thanked the “GOOD PEOPLE of the community” (“GOOD PEOPLE without GUNS”) For creating this NEW Journal News Employees (Good people NO guns) “MAP” to prove a point that Publishing Personal and Private Information is Not So Nice to have Published when It is Your Own Personal information being published! Well,. Then all of a sudden the Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE CO.) and Employees (GOOD people NO guns) Started to Verbally attack the “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” even though the “GOOD GUYS of the community” (GOOD PEOPLE without GUNS) created the “Map” To support the (“GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS”),.
JOURNAL NEWS Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) Said “IT IS NOT RIGHT” for “GOOD GUYS of the community” (GOOD People without GUNS) to publish Journal News Employees (Good people NO guns) personal information, Even though the Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) still currently have posted “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” Personal information on line!,.
But,. even after this, Journal News Employees (Good people NO guns) still felt it was “OK” for “Journal News Co.” and Employees (GUN FREE ZONE PEOPLE”/ Good people NO guns” To Publish “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” Personal information.
NEXT:
Then What happened was that “BIG PEOPLE WITH GUNS” that are Part of the “GOOD PEOPLE WITH and WITHOUT GUNS” Spoke up next and said “WE” are POLICE, JUDGES, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, STATE REPRESENTATIVES, CONGRESSMEN, SENATORS, PRISON GUARDS, and RETIREE’S from all of the above. Even WOMEN Who have GUN PERMITS for DOMESTIC ABUSE PROTECTION were Part of that group!
THEY ALL CRIED FOUL! These PEOPLE WERE GETTING HARASSED AND WERE FEARFUL FOR THEIR FAMILIES LIVES!
THEY ASKED AND DEMANDED JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYEES HARASSED AND WERE FEARFUL FOR THEIR FAMILIES LIVES!
THEY ASKED AND DEMANDED JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYEES (Good people NO guns) To remove this “MAP” they made, But Journal News said again, “We have a right to publish this information and we will, Just because “WE CAN” “IT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY”
Well,
The next thing that happened, The Journal News Employees (Good people NO guns),. Claimed that they were getting harassing and threatening letters and e-mails from the “GOOD PEOPLE of the community”, and also from “GOOD People from Outside of the Community”. They called the POLICE (BIG, GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) to report a crime, The Police(BIG, GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) said there was no crimes committed! The Employees (Good people NO guns) call the Police (BIG GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) again for the same thing,. Again the same response,. NO Threats and NO CRIMES ARE COMMITTED!
So what do you think the Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE CO.) does in response to no crimes being found, or committed?!? well,. They Hired ARMED GUARDS (GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) The same people that they made the “MAP” about and gave out to Good people everywhere?!?,. To “Protect them at Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) offices from,.??, (Nobody really knows what or who they are afraid of, or from what!?!) Maybe,. the “GOOD PEOPLE of the community”? That haven’t committed any crimes!?! Maybe the “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS”?!?(with Federal Checks, NO Criminal or mental illness, Gun permits issued by state, and professional Training) That doesn’t Sound right?!,.. Maybe its the “BIG GUYS WITH GUNS” (POLICE, JUDGES, DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, STATE REPRESENTATIVES, CONGRESSMEN, SENATORS, PRISON GUARDS, and RETIREE’S from all of the above, and WOMEN Who have GUN PERMITS for DOMESTIC ABUSE PROTECTION,… That doesn’t make sense either!!! Journal News Employees (Good people NO guns) don’t fear GUNS, They are a “GUN FREE ZONE Co.”?!?
Maybe Criminals (BAD GUYS With NO GUNS)!?!? But that doesn’t make sense,. Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) haven’t done anything to upset the criminals!?! Nope, Journal News (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) seems to be afraid of their own shadow!!
That might be it,.. Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co. sounds like they are afraid of Journal News Employees (Good people NO guns) Why would that be,..
Well, the next thing that happened is employees (Good people NO guns) said that crimes were being committed at their houses!? The Police were called , but yet again NO CRIMES FOUND! Well, When No crimes were found,. The Journal News Executives (GUN FREE ZONE Co./ NO GUNS PEOPLE) Then HIRED More ARMED GUARDS (GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) (gun permits, Federal checks, No criminal or mental illness and training),. The same people that they made the “MAP” about, and gave out personal information of, to “Good people” everywhere,. for their personal houses?!? Why would Journal News Executives (GUN FREE ZONE/ NO GUNS PEOPLE) do this?!? Even after the POLICE, (BIG GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) said “NO CRIMES WERE COMMITTED”, would they Hire MORE ARMED GUARDS?!? (GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) (gun permits, Federal checks, No criminal or mental illness and training) These are the same people that Journal News Co. Executives (GUN FREE ZONE/ NO GUNS) people made the “MAP” and gave personal information out about, and gave to “Good people” everywhere?!?
NOW WAIT A MINUET:
Your telling me, No Crimes were committed by anyone, and Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) outed “GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS” For,. reasons nobody knows?!?,. except for,. “The GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY” according to what the Journal News Co. (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) says,. and then,. Also That the same “GOOD PEOPLE of the community” has said and has Made Perfectly Clear They DO NOT WANT!?!,. So in response to this,. the Journal News (GUN FREE ZONE Co.) Hires ARMED GUARDS (GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) they DO NOT NEED,. FOR A THREAT THAT DOES NOT EXIST!?! And then the Journal News Executives (GUN FREE ZONE Co./ NO GUNS PEOPLE) hires More ARMED GUARDS (GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) They DON”T NEED or Want, and have DECLARED in their Newspaper THEY Don’t feel should have guns?,. To Protect them from an Unknown threat that the Police ( BIG GOOD GUYS WITH GUNS) say does not exist!?!.
Maybe we can Get a Presidential Executive order for the Dept. of Heath, and Disease control to look into this. THEY CLEARLY NEED A MENTAL HEALTH EXAM!!! (Maybe they just want a gun, and they are already banned from having a gun for Mental health reasons?!? THEY ARE AFRAID OF THERE OWN SHADOWS YOU KNOW!!!
We Win!
See update above.
Journal News caves.
GOOD TO SEE YOU ARE BACK IN CIRCULATION!!!!
HE”S BACK!!!
Thanks, Keep the map up
We have the right under the 1st amendment. JN set the standard now they will live by it. Fight fire with fire. Until JN pushes law makers to make a nationwide law that protects all gun owners privacy than keep the pressure on those (JN) that started this.
JN : CRIMINALS ALREADY HAVE THE “MAP” DIRECTIONS THEY WANTED!!
TO JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYEES: IT”S TOO LATE YOU ALREADY GAVE THE CRIMINALS EVERYTHING THEY WANTED BUT A KEY TO THE DOORS OF THE HOUSES!!!
WE WILL STOP WHEN THE CRIMINALS STOP!!! AND THE CRIMINALS, JUST LIKE YOU WILL NEVER STOP!!!
“A BAD TREE THAT PRODUCES BAD FRUIT CAN DAMAGE ALL THE TREES AROUND IT!!! IT SHOULD BE CUT DOWN AND REMOVED FROM THE ORCHARD AND BURNED SO ITS SEEDS CANNOT REPRODUCE!!! THIS WILL THEN ALLOW MANY GOOD FRUIT BEARING TREES TO TAKE ITS PLACE, AND PROVIDE ROOM FOR HEALTHY AND STRONG TREES TO GROW AND PROVIDE LIFE SUSTAINING FOOD FOR ALL!!!”
CRIMINALS DESTROY Individual LIVES and Individual HOMES, and INDIVIDUAL CHILDREN’S LIVES,..
TO ALL JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYEES AND EXECUTIVES:
YOU HAVE DESTROYED THE SAFETY AND TERRORIZED A WHOLE COMMUNITY!!!
YOU DESTROYED THE SAFETY OF A COMMUNITY OF 200,000+ People’s HOMES, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES!!!,
and you think a short NOTE will MAKE UP FOR WHAT ALL YOU HAVE DONE, AND IT ALL GO AWAY!?!? LOL FOOLS!
WAS IT WORTH YOUR REPUTATION FOR A FEW “PIECES OF SILVER” (DOLLARS),.. TO SHOW EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD WHAT FOOLS YOU ARE, TO NEVER BE TRUSTED AGAIN!?!?
I HOPE YOU ARE ALL SO SATISFIED AT HOW MANY BLOOD SOAKED NEWSPAPERS YOU SOLD FOR A STUNT!!!!
WHAT A BUNCH OF HIPPOCRATES!!!
TO: JOURNAL NEWS AND ALL OF JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYEES,.. YOU”LL BE PAYING FOR THIS FOR THE REST OF ALL YOUR LIVES! ANY WHERE YOU GO PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID!!! PEOPLE WILL RECOGNIZE YOUR FACES ON VACATION!, AT RESTAURANTS!, GAS STATIONS!, The MALL!, Walking YOUR DOG DOWN THE STREET! AND IN HELL WAY PAST YOUR NATURAL LIVES!!
DID YOU MAKE ENOUGH MONEY ON YOUR EXPERIMENT!?!?!
HITLER ABUSED PEOPLE TO!!! HE TOOK PEOPLES DIGNITY, FREEDOMS, and LIVES FROM THEM,..
PROMISING,..
“IT IS FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY!!!
HITLERS “BROWN SHIRTS” ROAMED the STREETS, LOOKING FOR INNOCENT PEOPLES LIVES TO DESTROY, FOR POWER GLORY AND MONEY.. JUST LIKE YOU DID!,.. THEN THEY STRIPPED INNOCENT PEOPLE NAKED FOR ANYTHING THEY HAD!
YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE DONE THIS PHYSICALLY TO THIS COMMUNITY, BUT YOU SURE DID A HELL OF A JOB RIPPING AWAY EVEN A THOUGHT OF DIGNITY AND THE POSSIBILITY OF FEELING SAFE IN THESE PEOPLES OWN HOMES!!!
YOU ARE ALL TERRORISTS!!!
HOW MANY ABUSED WOMEN HAVE YOU MADE FEAR FOR THERE LIVES!?!, HOW MANY PARENTS FEEL THEY HAVE TO NOW HAVE A GUN READY, OR NOW FEEL THEY NEED TO GO BUY A GUN TO KEEP THEIR CHILDREN SAFE!?!
AFTER HITLER HAD ENOUGH OF THE BROWN SHIRTS WAYS,..
HITLER HAD THE BROWN SHIRTS CLEANED FROM THE RANKS BY THE “SS” ELITE FROM THE LOWEST TO THE HIGHEST RANK AS A SCOURGE TO THE NAZI PARTY,..AND THEN REPLACED THEM BY STRONGER AND,. AS HITLER SAID IT “CLEARER THINKING PEOPLE!
YOU ARE NO MORE VALUABLE THAN THE DUST WE KICK OFF OUR FEET WHEN WE LEAVE A BAD AND EVIL PLACE!!
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Eric Holder, “We must “BRAINWASH People Against Guns” VIDEO
No Joke VIDEO RECORDING of ERIC HOLDER Saying in Speech:
“WE MUST BRAINWASH PEOPLE AGAINST GUNS”
3:30 Minuets: VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xzthJZPPAE
This is Our Government Hard at work Preserving our BILL OF RIGHTS??
As long as we are at it,.. Why don’t we repeal the right of a woman to vote!?
Maybe reinstate Prohibition!? That worked out so well last time!
Why is the Right to Own a Gun Such a big deal,.. Because it is Part of our BILL OF RIGHTS! If You take #2 away #1 will be gone the Day after! with #14, and #10,…
OH well, Why Don’t we Just stay in our little Bubble!? Why don’t we Just burn the dam “Bill of Rights Paper!? Then We Can Have A Dictator To “TELL US WHAT ARE NEEDS ARE!” Who Cares What People want! RIGHT?
It’s working out great for the Starving People of NORTH KOREA! In fact it worked out great all over the world where dictators ruled, Ask them The Dictators will tell you!
THEN,.. Ask the People That tried to gain freedom Under the foot of them,.. OH,.. That’s Right,..
Their Government (the Only People With The Guns, machetes, or swords) Killed them!,.. Sorry We All Forgot about that Point!
I’LL Tell You What I found out,..You cant talk to their Kids or Them,.. But you can still TRY to find where their caring government Burned and Buried them and their kids Bodies!
WAKE UP!!!
The new After School
The new After School Special??
Too late, I’ve already brainwashed my children and grandchildren!
I feel sorry for your kids that they have no positive future,..
Have, you ever seen what nature and a wolf pack does to the ones of the herd that are week and do not know how to defend themselves!?
The wolves don’t say, oh well, this one is stupid we should let this one go, LOL
Nature and the natural order of things,. has a way of removing the week ones from society, so the intelligent and strong ones can take there place!
Journal News, Readers “SAFE ZONE” ideas against the Breakins!
REMEMBER, JOURNAL NEWS SAYS:
“IT”S ALL FOR THE GOOD and BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, Your Kids, Your Family, and YOU! “WERE CONCERNED and WE CARE”!
REMEMBER KIDS,.. We Can all Feel So SAFE now just knowing how much Journal News cares about All The Families in our community! IF You Forget though, JOURNAL NEWS Published a Great Interactive “MAP” For The Whole Family to enjoy and also to Help All the Criminals TO FIND YOUR HOUSE to come visit! (OH, BOY, Aren’t You Excited about that!)
****READER COMMENT: Little Johnny Says:
WOW, I can Hardly Wait For the Next Break In! They won’t come to My House Because we don’t have any Guns! I asked My Daddy and he showed me on that “map” where we live, and we don’t have a “Red Mark” so we don’t have to worry! Journal News and Mom said “We are a Good Guy, Without a Gun!
****Reader Comment: Little Sally Says:
I hope The bad Criminals try to use Those Stolen Guns, to Break into my house. I was worried at first but My Mom Said It’s “OK” because “The police will be able to get to my house in 10 Minuets! I asked My mom, but what if you “Cant Call the Police because The Criminal Has a Gun?, She Said not to worry Because That would never happen! So we are safe! Just like in tag, We are in a Safe Zone, so we can’t get hurt!
****READER COMMENT: Little Albert says:
The Criminals Can’t Come into My School, They Can Tell its My school because We have a Big Sign that Says “GUN FREE ZONE” So they can’t come in!
****READER COMMENT: Little Sandy Lou Says:
If they come to my School with those stolen guns we will be safe Because The teachers said that even though we don’t have an armed security Guard, We can Hide under our Desks Just like Grandma and Grandpa did when they were in School to stay safe against the Nuclear Bombs in the 60’s!
****READER COMMENT: Little Tommy Says: MY DADDY SAYS Criminals wont come into our house. We have a Big sign on our front lawn that says “NO GUNS HERE, THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE!” So the criminals will stay outside! We also don’t have to worry because we still Have Plastic Sheets and Duck Tape left over from the chemical scare, enough to cover the whole house, and enough Food, water, and a generator, for a year left over from Y2K so we don’t have to go outside!
What is your comment? How does your “GUN FREE” SAFE ZONE work at your house? Your Suggestion might help others!
Police response
When the police say there is no evidence connecting the burglaries to the map, they are covering their butts (reasonably I might add) by being tactful.
HOWEVER! Using 4th grade arithmetic we can learn a few things: Using fairly gross numbers gleaned from Wikipedia Westchester and Rockland counties have a combined population of 1,260,000. The Journal exposed 44,000(?). Dividing 44,000 by 1,260,000 (yeah, children, etc. shouldn’t be included, but getting the absolutely correct data would be more work than the Journal is willing to do) we get .035. Which is the percentage or odds of the first home being on the list. Multiply by itself (second home) and we get .0012 as the percentage (odds). Now, this doesn’t PROVE the burglars used the map, but odds of almost 1 in a 1,000 are pretty damn convincing.
MATH I can UNDERSTAND, WOW Thank You!
CAN YOU TEACH THIS “NEW MATH” IDEA TO WASHINGTON D.C., Biden, Obama, Mayor Bloomberg, Eric Holder, and Mayor Cuomo.
There Numbers always seem really off to me and a few other 150 million people I have things in common with!
I wish I had you as a teacher in My “REALITY IN A REAL SOCIETY CLASS!”
My “teacher” (Government) Says We are Safe Because we are in a “GUN FREE” zone So of course Nothing would ever Happen In a “GUN FREE” Zone!
That’s Just “GOOD SENSE” Was the Reason he gave the class, OVER AND OVER AND OVER,..
I heard that phrase so many times now. So I guess If we say it enough times People will Believe it! Ask Eric Holder,.. In a 1995 video on UTUBE he says We “NEED TO BRAINWASH” the Ideas that Guns Help People out of people’s minds. 3/4 of the way through the video he says exactly that!
JN Lawsuit filed, has been dropped, Can’t afford to fight GANNET
Lawsuit Filed Against Journal News Has Been Dropped. Posted January 17th, 2013
A lawsuit filed against The Journal News by First Impression LLC, an interior design firm in Katonah, New York, has been dropped, management of the business informed the Rockland County Times. The owners did not feel they could afford a costly legal battle with the Gannett Corporation, parents of the Journal News.
First Impression LLC, initially sued the Journal News on the grounds that they had incorrectly placed their business on the infamous map and had thus caused damage to their reputation.
In other news, a Westchester County police association held a press conference on Tuesday promising to hold the Journal News liable for any criminal actions that might result from their interactive map.
Despite the lawsuits and threats, it is not clear if the Journal News would hold liability for any actions taken as a result of their gun-map, as first amendment precedent would appear to be on their side.
**First Impression said they are only an interior design firm.
http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/17/lawsuit-filed-against-journal-news-has-been-dropped/
JN 2 Big to fail? I DON’T THINK SO!!! READERS WILL DECIDE!
So is the Journal News parent company “Gannet” going to bail out JOURNAL NEWS!? My attitude is “Business is Business”!! SO NO! LOL
Journal News Staff cost “Gannet”:
**: Their reputation, Sales, Market share, Finances, and Distribution (in relation with repercussions to “Gannets other papers)
**: legal reputation, Professional reputation,
Lost Advertizes,
***( KEEP CALLING the Companies that Advertize in Journal News!, Tell then How happy you are that they support Criminals Breaking into People’s houses!!!)
**Don’t forget about the costs and future costs to respond to legal filings from State, County, City, Police, Guards, Private citizens, and any homeowners or businesses negatively effected!
*** ALSO The additional costs of ARMED Security Guards 24hrs a day at the office buildings Journal News runs!
*** Armed Guards “Gannet” Has Now Hired for Their Offices and EXECUTIVES! (NON Executive Staff, let them pay for it Themselves!)
*** Armed Guards at executives Homes Of Journal News and Now Gannet.
DID YOU SEE THE 10 MINUET VIDEO RECORDING OF EMPLOYEES INTERVIEWS AT THERE FRONT DOORS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA&feature=player_embedded
WHAT OTHER COSTS CAN YOU THINK OF!?
PLEASE RESPOND! I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT YOU COME UP WITH!
JN Oops! Gun-map hate mail goes to wrong paper
Oops! Gun-map hate mail goes to wrong paper, Friday, January 18, 2013, WND MEDIA
See what people really think about Journal News action, by Joe Kovacs, executive editor of WND.
The Journal News of New York published an interactive map of permitted gun owners, prompting a firestorm of controversy.
In the highly competitive world of the news media, one New York paper is apparently more than happy to embarrass another in connection with the recent gun-map controversy.
The Journal News, which serves readers in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties, recently caused a firestorm of anger when it published an interactive map of addresses, helping identify people who legally own guns in its area. Ironically, the Journal News has since reportedly hired armed guards to protect its own staff.
But some of the public’s comments intended to scourge the Journal News have been mistakenly sent to the wrong newspaper, the Rockland County Times.
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Now, editors at the Rockland paper are going public with those messages.
“The Rockland County Times has decided to publish these letters in the interest of showing exactly how the Journal News’ gun-map stunt made people around North America feel!” the paper shouted Wednesday.
It adds that “most of the letter-writers offered their apologies upon learning they sent their letter to the wrong newspaper.”
One reader, (out of HUNDREDS) Terry Mulinski of Bothell, Wash., praised the Journal News, saying, “Good call on publishing. What ARE they complaining about?”
But most of the other comments vented a sense of outrage, with some using humor to express their displeasure.
Here is a sampling of some of the letters meant for the Journal News, but received and now published by the Rockland County Times:
http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/oops-gun-map-hate-mail-goes-to-wrong-paper/#pQeoFem7C08rOhq4.99
http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/oops-gun-map-hate-mail-goes-to-wrong-paper/?cat_orig=politics
Thank you
Rockland,
You are my kind of people.
Thank you.
Hate mail to wrong address
I notice something weird about this “hate” mail.
It’s amazingly rational, clean mouthed, and threatless.
HILARIOUSE! YES I AGREE LIBERALS DO SEEM RUDE AT TIMES,.
Yes, Adult mature conversation. Respectful and to the point!
Funny, It seems all the apparently “Rational” Thinking people from the papers that are for or claim to be Pro “GUN FREE SAFE ZONES” From JOURNAL NEWS, always seem to be attacking, rude, offensive, and arrogant at times!
JN, Rockland CountyTimes: HATE MAIL INTENDED FOR Journal News
“The Rockland County Times has decided to publish these letters in the interest of showing exactly how the Journal News’ gun-map stunt made people around North America feel!”
Feedback intended for the Journal News that the Rockland County Times mistakenly received, Posted January 16th, 2013
In the wake of the interactive gun-map controversy, a number of persons mistakenly sent the Rockland County Times angry emails intended for the Journal News.
We here at the Rockland County Times have decided to publish these letters in the interest of showing exactly how the Journal News’ gun-map stunt made people around North America feel!(Also, most of the letter-writers offered their apologies upon learning they sent their letter to the wrong newspaper).
***Below is just one example of MANY letters:
FROM: A British Columbia reader,..
“HOORAY FOR YOUR POSITION”
Dear Dylan,(JOURNAL NEWS)
I can’t thank you enough for displaying your hypocrisy so beautifully. I don’t have to explain to anyone but you, obviously, because virtually every single logical human can see how flawed your thinking is. Since you obviously cannot, let me make it very clear:
– By your publishing all of the legal gun owners residences, and making it clear in your editorials how opposed you are to gun ownership, you have staked out a position that by any rational thinking would prevent your organization from relying on guns to protect both your intellectual position as well as you organization.
– Hilariously, you cast your beliefs aside and embrace your protection by……..guns!
– Holy smokes, you and Rockland Times are the architect of the finest example of hypocrisy in many a year.
Naturally, it’s easy to predict your moral bankruptcy, and almost certainly the ultimate disappearance of your readership…..and by extension the bankruptcy of the Rockland Times itself. Way to go!
Regards,
Robert Zurrer
White Rock
British Columbia
***Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/01/oops-gun-map-hate-mail-goes-to-wrong-paper/#pQeoFem7C08rOhq4.99
JN- gatewaypundit.com READER COMMENTS about BURGLARY
Second Home Identified on Journal News Gun Map Is Burglarized – Vandals Steal Gun Safe
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, January 17, 2013, http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/second-home-identified-on-journal-news-gun-map-is-burglarized-vandals-steal-gun-safe/
READER COMMENTS:
#1 January 17, 2013 at 4:03 pm
Mahdi Al-Dajjal commented: FILE A LAW SUIT!
#2 January 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm
Lim Lynn commented: Great we will see more criminals showing their true colors motive too obvious taking advantage given by Traitor in Chief. We are doom until and unless lawsuit till New York Times bankrupts.
#3 January 17, 2013 at 4:08 pm
Stella Baskomb commented: I should think the Journal News has some liability here.
#4 January 17, 2013 at 4:13 pm
NeoKong commented: “Clarkstown police said they had no evidence the burglary was connected to the controversial map.” You mean the burglars did not leave a thank you note…? How rude.
#5 January 17, 2013 at 4:14 pm
vityas commented: Lawfare. Go after Gannett.
#6 January 17, 2013 at 4:30 pm
brian commented: I’d say the newpaper pulled the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Now they need to be held fully responsible for the consequences of their actions. Too bad the politicians can’t be held responsible for setting up a gun registration database.
The newspaper takes the position of the nazis in poland: use government gun registration records to target and neutralize gun owners. Isn’t that nice?
#7 January 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm
Adi commented: This is going to backfire on those liberal fascists big time.
#8 January 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm
gunowner commented: right…the only safe they stole was the one they took after they pried open two safes that had no weapons in them…even took the time to look for his pistol permits, I don’t see a connection there, great detective work, Idiots!…
#9 January 17, 2013 at 4:42 pm
chas commented: aiding and abetting.this rag newspaper must be shut down.
(#10)”REMOVED”?,.I GUESS AN INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LEFT,..LOL
#11 January 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm
GOP KICKS ASS commented: Liable? You think? I would get the best lawyer in the country and sue the pants off those …..
#12 January 17, 2013 at 4:51 pm
IOpian commented: Hope they sue the Journal News out of business.
*SEE gatewaypundit 4 more: There is A LOT MORE!!!
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/second-home-identified-on-journal-news-gun-map-is-burglarized-vandals-steal-gun-safe/
JN READERS COMMENTS: from ny newsday.com
Journal News map-listed guns, permits stolen from New City home, cops say
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/journal-news-map-listed-guns-permits-stolen-from-new-city-home-cops-say-1.4463741
Comments left on newsday paper:
***Ten__Bears says:
I hope they get sued to bankruptcy
***Alex Masters says:
The homeowner should make a deal with the perp to drop charges in exchange for testimony that he used information published in the Journal News as a treasure map. This rag and Gannett needs to be shut down.
***NnyS311 says:
Drudge readers…. take a look around this site at the liberal propaganda they dole out on long island… you will finally understand what us conservatives are up against here…. read the editorials.. talk about torture… you look around this site and you will see why new york is filled with ignorant liberals…..
***LysolMotorola says:
Just a random burglary. OK. Let us see the Journal PROVE that. Just another unintended consequence of their totally irresponsible actions in putting the names out there for all to see. Being libtards, not only did they not think this through, they probably didn’t THINK about it at all – it just made them feel good about themselves because they were doing something and they cared.
Let the litigation begin.
***nick says:
Wow…what a random coincidence his name happened to be on that list…and the thieves took his gun safe…Lawsuits anyone?
JOURNAL NEWS BURGALRY 2nd HOME, GUNS STOLEN, HOME ON MAP
Burglary, GUNS STOLEN, New City:
Britta Lane home burglarized on Wednesday and two handguns, pistol permits, cash, jewelry taken.
By Robin Traum, Email the author, January 17, 2013
A home on Britta Lane in New City was burglarized and ransacked on Wednesday, Clarkstown Police said.
Two handguns, a .45 cailber Colt and .22 caliber Iver Johnson, were stolen along with Rockland and Orange County pistol permits. Police report two safes on the upper level of the home were pried open and a third safe was missing from the basement.
An undetermined amount of cash, jewelry and U.S. Savings Bonds were also taken. The homeowner reported the burglary to police at about 9:45 p.m. Sgt. Jo Anne Fratianni said she did not know if the home had been included in an online map of Rockland County licensed pistol permit holders.
In a followup statement, police note the burglary is still under investigation and there are no facts to support a correlation between it and the published map.
Earlier this week, a burglar attempted to pry open a gun locker inside a White Plains home listed on the controversial gun permit map, police said.
The Clarkstown Police Department Detective Bureau is investigating and asks anyone with information to contact the Clarkstown Police Department at 845-639-5800 or the TIPS line at 877-639-6233.
http://rivertowns.patch.com/articles/update-two-handguns-stolen-in-new-city-home-burglary
TOP COMMENTS LEFT ON JOURNAL NEWS WEB-SIGHT ABOUT THIS BREAK IN AND THEFT:
***Bob Smith · Top Commenter
Thank you Journal News without your help the burglars would be still looking for a home with the guns to steal. “I AM WAITING FOR YOUR NEXT MAP ON ELDERLY WOMAN LIVING ALONE WITH CASH AND JEWELRY IN THEIR HOME!!!
***Al Brunner
If someone gets shot by these guns will the JOURNAL NEWS newspaper be held responsible? They should, they caused the problem even though it was legal to do so.
***Isaac Drum · Payroll auditor/ loss control surveyor at US Reports
Journal News is going down and they are on the run.
Why won’t you people talk to reporters and defend your actions, rather than hiding behind a wall of silence and armed guards? Just another group of left-wing bullies who who need to be / are getting smacked down, in a purely civil discourse sort or way of course. Keep up the pressure, boycott their advertisers, and send a strong message to these elitists that we will not be intimidated by Alinsky style tactics of rabble rousing and turning neighbor against neighbor.
***ML Best · Drexel University
That’s two…one each in Westchester and Rockland. Take the map down.
***Jerry Shanahan · Top Commenter · Iona College
THE JOURNAL NEWS STRIKES AGAIN!
***Toni Slawinski Bracconeri · Top Commenter · Fordham University
Our law enforcement officers are now having to track down violent criminals who have now been armed, courtesy of the journal news. Unfortunately, the police don’t have a cutesy treasure map to follow. The JN could have provided the number of permits in a given area without the personal details. Any reader who had a LEGITIMATE interest could have filled out a FOIL request on their own.
***Bob McDowell · Top Commenter
So where on the map are these guns now, Journal News, since your intent is to show us who has evil guns and where they live? When they were in a good guy’s hands you thought we’d be safer if we knew where they were. Are we safer as a result? You may be, after hiring ARMED guards to protect you, but your readership certainly isn’t, not with these guns in criminal hands now instead of with their lawful owners who committed no offense whatsoever.
One thing we all know for certain is that the people who have these guns now won’t be registering them and won’t be complying with any regulations passed regarding them, and that is the inherent problem naive solutions never address.
***Ted Smith · Top Commenter
“It’s too early to tell if there was a correlation,” said Sgt. Glenn Cummings. “We don’t want to give out any erroneous conclusions without completing the investigation.” OH, COME ON NOW!!
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***Butch Blosc · Top Commenter
As the police union chief said, the Journal News printed a virtual treasure map for criminals. I would hope the people killed as a result of the Journal News action come to haunt them; but, come to think of it, it’s unfolding just as the Journal News planned: chaos. It’s the Communist Party way to destroying America. Just look at what Comrade Obama’s doing.
JOURNAL NEWS MAP BREAK IN #2, GUNS NOW IN CRIMINALS HANDS!
GUNS STOLEN, THANKS JOURNAL NEWS! SECOND TIME NOW!
We are so glad JOURNAL NEWS Cares about US and OUR SAFETY!
WHEN DO THEY START PAYING FOR ARMED GUARDS TO GUARD OUR HOUSES!?!?!
REMEMBER JOURNAL NEWS SAYS:
“IT’S FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY!”
FOR THE NEXT HOME INVASION COMING TO YOUR HOUSE, OR A HOUSE NEAR YOU, REAL SOON, STAY TUNED IN RIGHT HERE!
BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE STAFF AT THE JOURNAL NEWS!
DON’T FORGET TO THANK JOURNAL NEWS FOR EVERY BREAK IN!
BURGLARY #2 of 40,000??
THANKS JOURNAL NEWS! ANY OTHER BRILLIANT IDEAS!?
BURGLARY #2 of 40,000??
THANKS JOURNAL NEWS! ANY OTHER BRILLIANT IDEAS!?
Ha! Thanks for the space Bob
Media morons promoting gun bans are SILLY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wt1Zy_ASNyA
Hear the 50%
By the IRS 50% make $35K a year and pay 2% of taxes. The top 1% makes the most and pays most of the taxes. I say what does that have to do with our democratic society? The rich can afford the federal license or hire people with a federal license. What is the bottom 50% going to do to defend themselves? The top few get to have protection while the rest of us will not be able to defend ourselves. The intent of the 2nd Amendment is that the average citizens can own a weapon capable of defeating a government take over. We should not need any permission to own our current weapons and to be within the 2nd Amendment right, we should be allowed to own larger weapons. The new gun control laws should allow us to own weapons capable of overthrowing the government if the day should come.
Take my gun from my dead hands
No one will take my gun, the government and their rich pricks can go ahead and try
All Talk
We are going to rid the country of guns and there is nothing you are going to do about it.
All Talk is Right
Oh yeah, go for it! We can tell how well that’s working out for you.
From the Washington Post:
“LAS VEGAS — The United States appears to be experiencing a record run on military-style assault weapons, high-capacity magazines and some kinds of ammunition as buyers deluge stores in search of guns and bullets they fear will be banned by the Obama administration, according to firearms industry executives and market analysts.”
Rid the country of guns?
If you’re going to rid a country of guns, why don’t you start by rounding up all the weapons that the Obama administration sold to Mexican drug cartels as part of Operation Fast and Furious?
Thinking in depth
If you ever decide it was a mistake, how you gonna get ’em back?
Newspaper Interactive Map
Sauce for the media goose that laid such a rotten egg!
Those poor employees… They deserve a demonstration of our good will(chuckle) by placing them ALL on our permanent Christmas card( or whatever your own favorite holiday is) lists! Maybe some gift subscriptions would be appropriate gestures of friendship as well, to assure them that we understand their current(um)position. I can think of several magazines I would like them to have(wink).
But that’s just me,
A Kind Hearted Person
JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYIES IN THEIR OWN WORDS:
VIDEO: OF JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYEES PERSONAL COMMENTS ABOUT THEIR CONVICTIONS TO HELP THE COMMUNITY,.. YOU KNOW,…
“FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COMMUNITY”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA&feature=player_embedded
Journal News: ‘I measured the courage of their convictions’
O’Keefe on Journal News: ‘I wanted to measure the courage of their convictions’
Posted by Erik Wemple on January 16, 2013
No accountability-minded journalist can resist the latest from James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, a 10-minute video in which O’Keefe’s troops pose as peace-loving gun opponents. They knock on the doors of journalists from the Journal News – among other folks — with a simple request: Would you mind if we put our sign saying, “This Home is Proudly Gun-Free”? They advertise themselves as adherents to the group “Citizens against Senseless Violence.”
The stunt has a devilish appeal in light of the Journal News’s pre-Christmas publication of the names and addresses of gun permit holders in Rockland and Westchester counties. As a study on the state of Tennessee concluded, such a move has the potential to push burglaries to homes where the perps have reason to believe that there are not gun owners.
The Journal News has embraced the principle that the names and addresses are public, should be public and serve a public need.
And it’s precisely that sentiment that O’Keefe was looking to probe with his undercover band of polite and cheery anti-gun activists. “I wanted to test the courage of their convictions,” says O’Keefe. “I found it to be duplicitous, because they are advocating printing the names of gun owners and unwilling to advertise themselves as not being gun owners.” That’s for sure: The journalists confronted by the Project Veritas operatives weren’t eager to plant a no-gun-here sign in front of their homes. Example: In response to an appeal to place one of those bad boys on the front door of his building, MSNBC host Toure demurs after saying he’d have to consult with his fellow building occupants.
There’s a slight conceptual problem with the mission of Project Veritas vis-a-vis the Journal News project. By virtue of having published the gun-permit databases, newspaper leaders who live in those communities and don’t own guns have already shown the courage of their convictions. That is, they’ve outed themselves as non-gun permit holders, and it’s not unreasonable that they’d refuse a more prominent advertisement of such. O’Keefe sees the matter differently. “That’s why it would be philosophically consistent for them to be willing to post signs,” he says.
Of all the encounters in the video, O’Keefe is particularly proud of the Toure dialogue, which unspools over the building intercom. “Toure demanded on air to know who has and who does not have a gun,” says O’Keefe. In another telling moment, says O’Keefe, Newark Star-Ledger columnist Bob Braun tells the troops, “I’m just wondering if that’s not an invitation to somebody with a gun.” O’Keefe: “He was providing a justification for more guns. This is the contradiction that we exposed.”
The Erik Wemple Blog, which covers media issues, will leave the gun-control arguments to other blogs.
However, one dynamic that the O’Keefe outing surely does expose is the Journal News’s own hypocrisy. When the band of allegedly anti-gun activists alights on the home of one Journal News editor, it engages in a short discussion with a security guard. They go back and forth about the signs. The guard, representing the thinking of Journal News leaders, says this: “They want this all to go away. They don’t want to publicize it any further than it already is.”
Well said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2013/01/16/okeefe-on-journal-news-i-wanted-to-measure-the-courage-of-their-convictions/
Journal News: ‘I wanted to measure the courage of their convictions’
VIDEO: J. N. Employes Won’t put “Gun Free” on Front yards!?
Journal News Employes agree!!! See them on video, with there own words!, The interviews are very impressive. We can all learn from their convictions!
Viewer comment: “THE BEST VIDEO I HAVE SEEN ALL YEAR!
VIEWER COMMENT: “MAYBE THIS VIDEO WILL MAKE JOURNAL NEWS EMPLOYES FAMOUS, that’s what they wanted,..isn’t it?!?
WATCH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA&feature=player_embedded
O’Keefe on Journal News: ‘I wanted to measure the courage of their convictions’
Watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA&feature=player_embedded
Posted by Erik Wemple on January 16, 2013
No accountability-minded journalist can resist the latest from James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas, a 10-minute video in which O’Keefe’s troops pose as peace-loving gun opponents. They knock on the doors of journalists from the Journal News – among other folks — with a simple request: Would you mind if we put our sign saying, “This Home is Proudly Gun-Free”? They advertise themselves as adherents to the group “Citizens against Senseless Violence.”
WATCH:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA&feature=player_embedded
Too funny!
I love the fact that the same Journal News “suits” who published the names and addresses of gun owners now think it’s a great idea to protect your home, family and workplace with … ummm … guns.
And if anybody thinks the people on that list are “gun nuts,” just listen to the way Star-Ledger columnist Bob Braun talks matter-of-factly about armed revolution against conservatives.
Braun defines the term “gunless nut.”
Good guys with guns.
JN knows this, the President and his family knows this. When someone feels threatened they have a gun or have someone with a gun to protect them. If we are to have a gun free society, let the government set the example and give up their guns. Oh, that is a problem. They only want to disarm law abiding citizens and not enforce current gun laws against criminal with guns. The rich have their own laws, they can hire people with the federal permits to protect themselves, while the rest of us have to fight for our 2nd Amendment right, this is why JN doesn’t care, they can always hire someone for the right price with a federal permit to protect them, who will protect us from them?
Rich Gun Grabbers
Teddy Kennedy (remember him? I’d like to forget) when “on duty” was always protected by the 200(?) man security force for the senate. When “off duty” was protected by the (reportedly) 40 man Kennedy private army that was licensed for 80 handguns and 80 machine guns. Anyone who has better statistics please inform me and I will correct my post.
SPAM ON THIS BLOG,.1, inapropreate and then 3 repeated!
PLEASE REMOVE THE 4 SPAM POSTINGS! THEY ARE NOT APPROPRIATE (unless this is the newest place to advertise dresses!?), AND ONE IS A QUESTIONABLE LINK TO INAPPROPRIATE MATERIAL!
The slowdown is coincidental
I’ve noticed a serious slowdown in posting on this site. Makes me wonder if Robert got a call from the IRS that implied his audit WOULD NOT go well if he didn’t stop wasting his preparation time w stupid blogs.
But, I admit I’m paranoid.
Slow down,
We all made our point, a slow down doesn’t mean people are not paying attention.
Slow down,
We all made our point, a slow down doesn’t mean people are not paying attention.
Oregon sheriff says “NO” he won’t enforce new Federal gun laws
Ore. sheriff says he won’t enforce new gun laws
By STEVEN DUBOIS, Associated Press, Updated 7:47 pm, Tuesday, January 15, 2013
“We’re restricted and prohibited from enforcing all types of federal laws, including immigration laws,” he said Tuesday. “It would be unreasonable for anyone to think that I would enforce a federal firearms law. “The sheriff figures Biden probably won’t even receive his letter, but “it needed to be said, so I said it.” “I tried to be as respectful as possible, but I also needed to get my point across,” Mueller said.
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — An Oregon sheriff has sent a letter to Vice President Joe Biden saying his department will not enforce any new gun laws it considers unconstitutional.
Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller, in his letter dated Monday, said politicians are “attempting to exploit the deaths of innocent victims” by supporting laws that would harm law-abiding Americans. The sheriff said he took an oath to support the Constitution, and laws preventing citizens from owning certain semi-automatic firearms and ammunition magazines would violate their rights.
“We are Americans,” Mueller wrote. “We must not allow, nor shall we tolerate, the actions of criminals, no matter how heinous the crimes, to prompt politicians to enact laws that will infringe upon the liberties of responsible citizens who have broken no laws.”
Mueller told The Associated Press in a phone interview from Albany, Ore., that he felt compelled to make his views known because sheriffs have not had much of a say on the vice president’s anti-gun violence task force. Mueller said his constituents have been repeatedly asking his deputies about what will happen if new gun restrictions are adopted.
“We’re restricted and prohibited from enforcing all types of federal laws, including immigration laws,” he said Tuesday. “It would be unreasonable for anyone to think that I would enforce a federal firearms law.” The sheriff figures Biden probably won’t even receive his letter, but “it needed to be said, so I said it.””I tried to be as respectful as possible, but I also needed to get my point across,” Mueller said.
Mueller said some other sheriffs expressed support for his stance, but he does not know of any who have pledged to take similar action in regard to potential gun laws. Holly Russell, executive director of the Oregon State Sheriff’s Association, did not respond to phone and email messages left late Tuesday afternoon.
Linn County is largely rural and politically conservative. Fewer than 40 percent of its registered voters supported President Barack Obama in November. Mueller said most households in the county have guns.
Though the letter might add fuel to an already hot topic, Mueller said he wishes people could have a civilized discussion about the issue, rather than resort to threats and name-calling. He said he doesn’t think the vice president is a bad person; he just doesn’t like the path he appears to be on regarding gun laws.
“We don’t have to be jerks to each other over it,” he said. “If old Joe wants to come out here to Linn County, we’d have a good conversation.”
Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Ore-sheriff-says-he-won-t-enforce-new-gun-laws-4197032.php#ixzz2I774MEyT
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/Ore-sheriff-says-he-won-t-enforce-new-gun-laws-4197032.php
Federal law
I think the sheriff should give the feds a serious kick where it hurts. Refuse to enforce or assist in enforcing ANY federal law. Since little things like murder, theft, rape, etc. are not federal crimes, it shouldn’t have any real effect on the safety of the (armed) populace.
CA Businessman Kills Five Gang Members In Multiple Attacks!
CA Businessman Kills Five Gang Members In Multiple Attacks
Los Angeles, CA watchmaker Lance Thomas shoots and kills 5 gang members who tried to rob his shop and kill him on multiple occasions.
http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/ca-businessman-kills-five-gang-members-in-multiple-attacks/
CONGRESSMAN THREATENS IMPEACHMENT OF OBAMA!
GOP congressman threatens impeachment if Obama uses executive action for gun control, 01/14/2013, Caroline May, Political Reporter
Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman threatened Monday afternoon that he would file articles of impeachment against President Barack Obama if he institutes gun control measures with an executive order. Stockman warned that such executive orders would be “unconstitutional” and “infringe on our constitutionally-protected right to keep and bear arms.” (RELATED: Levin: If Obama sidesteps Congress on debt ceiling, ‘no choice’ but impeachment) “I will seek to thwart this action by any means necessary, including but not limited to eliminating funding for implementation, defunding the White House, and even filing articles of impeachment,” Stockman said in a statement.
At his press conference Monday, Obama floated the possibility of using executive action to enact policies aimed at reducing gun violence.
The freshman congressman, who served one term in Congress in the mid-1990s, further labeled the possibility “an existential threat to this nation” because, he said, the purpose of the Second Amendment is to allow the people to protect themselves from tyranny. (RELATED VIDEO — Walter Williams: People misunderstand the point of the Second Amendment)
“Any proposal to abuse executive power and infringe upon gun rights must be repelled with the stiffest legislative force possible,” he added. “Under no circumstances whatsoever may the government take any action that disarms any peaceable person — much less without due process through an executive declaration without a vote of Congress or a ruling of a court.” He concluded by claiming that an executive order would be not just “not just an attack on the Constitution,” but also an “attack on Americans.” “If the president is allowed to suspend constitutional rights on his own personal whims, our free republic has effectively ceased to exist,” he said.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/14/gop-congressman-threatens-impeachment-if-obama-uses-executive-action-for-gun-control/#ixzz2I0MViT5w
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/14/gop-congressman-threatens-impeachment-if-obama-uses-executive-action-for-gun-control/
GIRL, 11 YEAR OLD GIRL, DEFENDS HERSELF WITH RIFLE!!!
Girl loads rifle to spook burglars 11-year-old ready to defend herself! Updated Friday, 13 Aug 2010
ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE) – When three teenage burglars pried open the door of a northwest Albuquerque home they had no idea they would be met by a brave little girl, police said Wednesday.
Alyssa Gutierrez, 11, took matters into her own hands Tuesday when police said when Miguel Marquez, Eduardo Zubiate and Jesus Quintana broke into her home. Gutierrez armed herself with a loaded rifle. “I was planning, if they came right next to me, I would shoot them,” Gutierrez said. But Gutierrez, who will start sixth grade next week, never got the chance because she’d spooked the burglars. Gutierrez said her cousins went to run an errand around the corner from their home and were gone for a few minutes when she heard the backdoor rattle. “I thought it was (my cousin) Zachary playing a joke on me so I just turned the TV louder and ignored it,” Gutierrez said.
But on the other side of the door were the burglars who pried open the door with a crowbar. Gutierrez believes that they’d seen her cousins leave and chose to break into the home when they thought no one was there.
She said when the Marquez, Zubiate and Quintana got inside, she heard them talk about stealing guns in the home. Gutierrez and her family told KRQE News 13 that they knew one of the suspects and believed the group targeted the home to steal their guns. “My heart kept on pounding and pounding,” Gutierrez said.
She said she slid to the floor from the couch when she saw the trio, but quickly decided that hiding wouldn’t do her any good because the masked intruders had seen her. “They had a rifle so I was thinking, ‘What should I do? ‘What if they shoot me?'” Gutierrez said.
That’s when she made a beeline for her mother’s room. “I ran back into my mom’s room and grabbed her little pink rifle, and there was two bullets in there,” she said. With the loaded rifle, Gutierrez said she checked the bathroom and then the living room ready to defend herself. She said she ran to her mother’s closet and called 911.
But while Gutierrez protected her home, she had no idea the suspects had jumped the fence and that an off-duty APD officer driving passed her home had spotted them.
Police arrested the three teens and their alleged getaway driver, Abraham Bustillos, minutes after the break-in.Gutierrez said she feels lucky because just a few days ago she had learned how to shoot a rifle. “I felt proud of myself,” Gutierrez said.
http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/Girl-loads-rifle-to-spook-burglars
INTRUDER FIRES AT WOMAN; SHE FIRES 2 SHOTS BACK!!
Intruder fires at woman; she fires 2 shots back
4:42 AM, Jan 12, 2013, JAY DIEM/THE (SALISBURY, MD.) DAILY TIMES, Written by, Ted Shockley, Gannett/Eastern Shore News
BLOXOM, Va. — An Accomack County woman surprised an intruder who had broken into her Mason Road home Friday morning by drawing a gun on him and firing off two shots after the armed suspect fired at her first. The man and an accomplice fled the scene, prompting a large manhunt that included a Marine Police airplane and a Maryland State Police helicopter.
The search continued for hours. The two men, described as armed and wearing black clothing, remained at large Friday afternoon. The broad-daylight home invasion and ensuing search was chronicled on police scanners as rapt residents listened.
The victim, whose name is being withheld by the News, recounted in a Friday interview several harrowing minutes in which she thought a daylight banging at the door was a delivery driver.
But then she saw a man kneeling — apparently a lookout — near a woods as an intruder broke through a door. The woman had armed herself and had words with the intruder.
“Look what I’ve got,” she said she screamed at him.
“I was just showing him my gun.”
The man, as he left the yard, whirled and fired a shot at the woman, she said. She returned two shots herself.Police established a perimeter, observed roads and searched with canine units.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130112/NEWS/130112001?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&nclick_check=1
Next time …
…. Just shoot and don’t warn the scum. One less dirt bag is one less dirt bag; now that idiot is getting a lawyer and we have to pay for him to stay in prison.
WHY WORRY!?, IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN HERE!? RIGHT?
Why Worry? It Could Never Happen Here
Posted on January 14, 2013 by Dan Zimmerman
Dustin R. writes:
I have been a contractor overseas for many years in the Middle East and currently work in the defense industry here at home. I’m writing because I see recent events being touted as the worst massacre in modern US history by those that would disarm us. I know everyone has their own opinions of a recent event but has anyone considered that,..
On April 9, 1993, agents of the ATF and FBI were responsible whether by action or inaction of the deaths of 67 people.
I know, “they were all nutjobs.” Well my response is “won’t someone think of the children?” I say that because of those 67 who died, 24 were children, 2 of whom were unborn.
Sixty-seven people died in order to arrest one man, at their church. I hear that people don’t believe its a church or a religion. Honestly if Scientology is considered a religion then so was whatever they were.
Just my opinion, others may vary. But thought you guys might find this information useful in the war on our rights for those that say “why do you need these things?” or “we would never need to defend ourselves from the government.” While the details around the events at Waco are cloudy at best, the results are not very far off from our worst nightmare.
Defensive Gun Use of the Day:
Defensive Gun Use of the Day: Nary a Shot Fired Edition, January 14, 2013 by Dan Zimmerman
“I felt threatened, and I feel like if he would have stepped a foot in, I would have shot him.” That’s what Pam Loman of Shawnee, OK had to say after an unidentified man booted in her front door on Friday. He kept knocking, harder and harder. As she told news9.com, ”So my instinct was to go get a gun. I don’t know why, I never in my life felt like I needed to go get a gun.” But after kicking in her door, he saw her standing there with a .32 aimed at his chest. ”And he saw that I had the gun, and he grabbed the door handle and pulled the door shut.” That’s when he took off with his two accomplices.
Just another defensive gun use, one that didn’t require a shot to be fired. Statistically, it’s one of hundreds that happen every single day.
Fortunately, Mrs. Loman doesn’t live in a state that’s taking steps to make her depend on the local police to be there the next time someone decides to invade her home on a Friday afternoon.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/
CHICAGO POLICE CHIEF “WILL SHOOT LICENCED GUN HOLDERS!
The Truth About Guns: Chicago Police Chief’s “Threat” to Shoot Concealed Carry License Holders January 13, 2013 by Robert Farago
“I don’t care if they’re licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained… putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster,” Chicago’s Police Chief Gary McCarthy told a Windy City radio interviewer at WVON 1690 am. “So I’ll train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and we’re going to have tragedies as a result of that. I’m telling you right up front.”
Gun rights advocates are up in arms at that one. They consider the Chief’s statement a threat against their lives. Well, yes. Yes it is! If you’re involved in a defensive gun use (DGU), you are in real danger of getting shot by the cops. In the fog of battle, in the heat of the moment, arriving cops are not going to see a firearm in a civilian’s hands and think “Maybe he’s the good guy!” They’re going to consider anyone holding a gun a lethal threat.
That’s doubly true in jurisdictions where legal concealed carry is as rare as spotting Rachel Feierman at Pep Boys. Places like Chicago, where cops have no “institutional memory” of righteous DGUs.
As for McCarthy, I don’t interpret his incendiary remarks as granting his troops a license to kill. There are a lot of reasons to consider McCarthy an enemy of our Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms, but this ain’t one of them.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/the-truth-about-chicago-police-chief/
I personally believe Gary
I personally believe Gary McCarthy just told a “lawyers lie”. Something that is strictly true, but completely false in its perception.
All he did was repeat what is standard police procedure in (probably) 100% of the world. The police are never required to ask you why you have the gun. They are supposed to be more intelligent than that. If you drop it or wave it and yell “I’m the good guy” or something similar happens they are expected to show restraint. But in most violent situations, if they have even a teenie justification they will not be accused of a crime.
This is not the case where they bust your home sans warrant, or even bust your home with warrant without presenting it. Something SCOTUS forgot (good lord, they’re supposed to understand law) when they legalized no knock entry.
CHICAGO POLICE, MAYOR, DONT CARE ABOUT 2nd A. RIGHTS!
-CHICAGO POLICE and COOK COUNTY POLICE FEEL THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW! (Been there, done that)
-MAYOR DAILY”S YOUNGER RELATIVE KILLED SOMEBODY, and WAS FREE ON THE STREETS FOR YEARS!
-Last year to trial,..The CHICAGO POLICED “COVERED” and “LIED” FOR “ONE OF THEIR OWN” when a MALE off duty COP WAS DRUNK AND BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF A 5’0″ female that WAS WORKING BEHIND THE BAR as the BAR TENDER, why?,.. SHE REFUSED TO SERVE HIM BECAUSE HE WAS DRUNK! (WATCH THE VIDEO ON UTUBE!) Pretty sick!
Etc, ETc, ETC,… ON AND ON.
THE CHICAGO MACHINE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT PEOPLES RIGHTS, much less THE SECOND AMENDMENT!
***REMEMBER The “CHICAGO TEN” and trials! (What a sham!)
*** DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION, Ring a Bell?
NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN THE CHICAGO MACHINE, JUST THE PLAYERS!
*********CHICAGO POLICE ARE GUILTY OF MANY THINGS!!!
THE FEMALE BARTENDER WON THE LAWSUIT, BUT THE CITY OF CHICAGO IS SUING TO HAVE THE GUILTY ACTIONS OF THE CHICAGO POLICE, CURRENTLY FOUND GUILT ON RECORD,.. TO BE,.. EXPUNGED FROM THE RECORD! SO NOT TO HAVE A RECORD OF FAULT ON THE BOOKS!, LOL
CHICAGO POLICE: Nazis? “SHOW US YOUR PAPERS!” “SHNEL”
Chicago City Ordinance: Register Firearms Loss, Theft, Sale or Transfer or Face Felony
Posted on January 13, 2013 by Robert Farago
Last week, after watching Illinois’ civilian disarmament bills die in committee, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel vowed to take action. “We can’t wait,” he pronounced, calculating the odds of a new, similar bill making it through the legislature and/or a federally legislated assault weapons and “high capacity magazine” ban. Well, the former White House Chief of Staff waited. He put off a promised press conference on his proposals for a gun control city ordinance, promising to unveil his plans at a City Council meeting next week. In the early minutes of this morning, Rahm’s plan for Chicago’s legal gun owners dropped . . .GUN REGISTRATION AND LOT”S OF IT!,.. Mayor Rahm Emanuel wants to broaden the requirement for reporting the loss, theft, sale or transfer of firearms to all gun owners in all of Cook County and double the jail time for an array of gun violations to stop the bloodbath on Chicago streets.
What the suntimes.com neglects to report: failing to keep a record of a firearms sale for ten years is, AT THE MOMENT A MISDEMEANOR.
EMANUEL’S NEW ORDNANCE would EXTEND that REQUIREMENT to Loss, Theft and Transfer. And make FAILING TO KEEP A RECORD A FELONY! (to bad for you if that paper was lost, stolen, or a fire, Flood, or Natural disaster,..THAT WOULD BE YOUR PROBLEM!)
Under the scheme, if Chicago cops have a “reasonable suspicion” that a gun owner’s firearm isn’t properly documented, they can ask for the paperwork. If the owner doesn’t have it, or it fails to meet the government’s criteria, they will lose their gun, their gun rights, their freedom and some of their money.
Remember the old movies about The NAZIS? “SHOW US YOUR PAPERS!” Like that.
The CHICAGO MOB IS STILL HARD AT WORK For The “GodFather, and the Chicago “BOSS” Emanuel eventually want’s his Boss’s job in Washington!
Once again, Illinois is proving to be a bellwether in the post-Newtown rush to civilian disarmament. Noting that the state-level unconstitutional gun grab that died in committee was quietly replaced with a new gun ban bill (HB 132) on Friday, waiting for the legislature’s return.
WALMART CANCELS ORDERS, AND STOPS SALES OF AMMO!
BREAKING & CONFIRMED: Wal Mart Is NOT Going To Order Any More Ammo., January 12th, 2013
I do not have a link as of yet but here is what I have found out…
Stopped by my local Wal Mart this morning. They are out of almost every kind of ammo.
I asked to talk to the person in charge of ordering to see if they had any information on this subject.
The manager I talked to said they had not heard anything…BUT.
She tried to order some .223 as I was standing there. She said the order was being rejected by the corporate office. Said she had never had that happen.
She called corporate as I was standing there.
And was told this.
“As of right now Walmart is not going to be making any new orders of ammo because of the upcoming decision on the second amendment”. Said, “As of right now we are unsure of what new legislation might be coming, and because of this, we are suspending new orders. We will continue to sell what is already in stock in stores and at our distribution centers, but any new orders will not be shipped until the issue is resolved”.
So after they run out, there will be no restocking until Obama makes his decision…Hows that change working out for you now?
As I said, I dont have a link, but you can call Wal Mart headquarters at 1-800-925-6278 for yourself and ask. After the answer press 2 then 1 then 1 again and wait to talk to a rep. I just did this myself and was told the same thing.
Something must have changed at the meeting they had on Thursday.Guess we will have to wait and see what Obama has in store for us next.
Guys, I am not making this up…Call and find out for yourself.
Another confirmation:
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-confirmed-wal-mart-is-not-going-to-order-any-more-ammo/#kdbD1APTWpVJk83y.99
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You Need Money?…Bloomberg is willing to BUY YOU, OUR RIGHTS as CITIZENS, and BURN The BILL OF RIGHTS all for “A few Pieces of SILVER”!
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Bloomberg Pledges to Be ‘Counterweight’ to NRA
9:40 AM, Jan 14, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER
New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg has pledged to be a “counterweight” to the National Rifle Association. Bloomberg’s net worth is estimated at $22 billion.
Of the NRA, Bloomberg says, “I’M GOING TO PROVE (to be) A COUNTERWEIGHT.” “I’m certainly going to take a good, hard look at this. -You can organize people,..”I CAN WRIGHT CHECKS!”
Last week, an MSNBC host challenged Bloomberg to spend all his money to push for gun control:
“Well, I’ve got 356 days left with this job, as mayor.”
-“What are you going to do with your money when it comes to guns?” Brzezinski interrupted. “Let’s do it. Let’s start a movement.”
“Well, I’ve said it’s all going to be given away,” Bloomberg said, who is 70 and is worth $22 billion.
-,..”Because you know what makes a difference in politics–MONEY,” Brzezinski Insisted.
As stated previously …
Here are three more stories related to the Journal News’ infamous gun owner list, none of them favorable to the JN:
1. A Rockland Times reader posting under the name John Leitch says the Journal News is “very wrong” when it claims on its website: “The database behind the map is not downloadable and the information can not be filtered or sorted.”
At the end of a Rockland Times article [See Item #2], John Leitch explains why the JN was wrong … then presents a link demonstrating what kind of data he was able to glean from the “not downloadable” database. (WARNING: Adult language.)
http://pastebin.com/jTR34wqQ
2. By a 4-0 vote, the Orangetown (N.Y.) Town Board approved the following resolution: “Resolved that the Orangetown Town Board condemns The Journal-News for publishing the names and addresses of legal gun permit owners in Rockland County. This reporting was unnecessary and potentially dangerous.”
The Orangetown police chief said the JN’s list jeopardizes the safety of undercover officers and other gun permit holders.
http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/10/chief-nulty-says-journal-news-endangers-undercover-officers-orangetown-council-blasts-journal-news-gun-map/
3. From the Bedford (N.Y.) Daily Voice:
A Westchester law enforcement organization said it will hold The Journal News responsible for any crimes against its members stemming from publication of the names of gun permit-holders in Westchester and Putnam counties.
The newspaper put active and retired law enforcement officers and their families in “grave and immediate danger,” along with the others on the list, the Affiliated Police Association said in a news release Friday. The group is an umbrella organization for 53 law enforcement groups in the region.
http://bedford.dailyvoice.com/news/police-group-asks-journal-news-take-gun-map-down
83 Leon Leyson Youngest survivor on actual Schindlers list Dies!
Youngest Holocaust survivor on Schindler’s List dies in Los Angeles home aged 83
Leon Leyson, a 13-year-old Jew living in Krakow was the youngest factory worker put on Oskar Schindler’s list which saved thousands from the death camps Known as Little Leyson, he worked in Schindler’s factory by standing on an upturned box.
Survivor: Leon Leyson was the youngest Jewish survivor of the Holocaust spared by being on Schindler’s List. Oskar Schindler kept an eye on the Leyson family among the hundreds of other Jews he saved. The youngest Jewish refugee to be saved from the Holocaust by Oskar Schindler has died.
Leon Leyson, 83, was just 13 when he was taken on as a Schindler employee, he went on to live in Los Angeles, served in the U.S. army and worked as a teacher in industrial arts – keen to give something back to his adoptive country.
Living in Krakow, he was 10 when the Nazis invaded Poland. Jews were forced to live in a ghetto but Leyon’s father, Morris was one of the few men allowed out to work. He was fortunate to have Oskar Schindler as his boss, a native German shocked by the horrors he saw committed by the Nazis and determined to try and save as many Jews as he could. In 1943, Schindler was granted permission to keep his workers in his own factory sub-camp. He secretly brought them more food and enabled them to live in conditions never permitted by the Nazis. Among them was the Leyson family, a family of seven who had moved to Krakow so Morris could find work. Because of Schindler’s interventions and after being ultimately placed on his list of workers which meant they were save from the death camps, Leon survived alongside his parents and an older brother and sister. His other two brothers were killed. ‘Five of us survived the war, this is the bottom line, out of everyone who was related to me in Poland. And we survived because we were on Schindler’s list. The family moved to the U.S. in 1949. Leyson built up a good relationship with Schindler, who risked his life hiring hundreds of extra Jewish workers during the war, to save them. Spielberg’s Schindler’s List was supported by the many generations saved by Oskar Schindler’s actions including Leon Leyson. Leyson was too small to operate the machines properly in Schindler’s factory so he stood on an upturned box, Schindler called him Little Leyson.
‘Occasionally, when he was by himself, he would come and talk to me. He ordered that I get extra rations of food,’ Leyson said. When the Nazis ordered the remaining Jews of Krakow to be sent to Auschwitz., Schindler acted again paying huge bribes and using all of his influence to ensure as many as possible were relocated to outside home town and thus away from the Final Solution.
Schindler also dramatically intervened when Leyson’s mother and sister were among 300 Schindler women accidentally re-routed to Auschwitz when they were meant to be being led to safety. They knew the gas chambers awaited them until they heard Schindler’s voice. ‘What are you doing with these people? These are my people,’ he told the Nazi guards, who let them go after Schindler offered further bribes.
Leyon didn’t talk about his wartime experiences until 1993 and Steven Spielberg’s acclaimed film Schindler’s List prompted him to share his story.
He went on to take part in an educational program where Holocaust survivors spoke in high schools and college campuses providing a personal testimony of the horrors committed by Hitler’s Nazi party. He often told stories of his beloved brother Tsalig, who at 16, chose to go to a death camp with his girlfriend rather than accept Schindler’s offer to save him – he didn’t want her to be alone. The young couple was both murdered. Leyson once met Schindler in the U.S. many years on and found that he still remembered him. ‘I know who you are. You are little Leyson!,’ he said. Leyson worked as a teacher at Huntington Park High School, Los Angeles for 39 years. He lived in Fullerton with his wife, Liz, and had two children.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261877/Youngest-Holocaust-survivor-Schindlers-List-dies-Los-Angeles-home-aged-83.html#ixzz2HuWWvXpP
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GUN PERMIT MAP USED BY BURGLARS: WHITE PLAINS HOME
HEY: DWIGHT WORLEY,. HOME ADDRESS- 23006 139ave Springfield Gardens, NY, 11413 Phone 1-718-527-0832
Are you and JOURNAL NEWS proud of yourselves now!?
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE KILLED, BURGLARIZED, TERRORIZED, CHILDREN PUT IN DANGER, and LIVES DESTROYED, For YOUR “FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY”!?
HOW MANY GUARDS WILL SHOW UP TO STAND BETWEEN YOU AND THE WHOLE PISSED OFF NEW YORK AREA? NOT VERY MANY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PROTECT THEIR OWN HOMES AND FAMILIES FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!
Journal News gun permit map used by burglars to target White Plains home?
Originally published: January 13, 2013 2:10 PM
Updated: January 13, 2013 5:25 PM, By TIMOTHY O’CONNOR and MEGHAN E. MURPHY, meghan.murphy@cablevision.com . Police are investigating possible links to a controversial handgun permit database after a residence on the street was burglarized Saturday, a source tells Newsday. A White Plains residence pinpointed on a controversial handgun permit database was burglarized Saturday, and the burglars’ target was the homeowner’s gun safe. At least two burglars broke into a home on Davis Avenue at 9:30 p.m. Saturday but were unsuccessful in an attempt to open the safe, which contained legally owned weapons, according to a law enforcement source. One suspect was taken into custody, the source said.
The gun owner was not home when the burglary occurred, the source said. The victim, who is in his 70s, told Newsday on Sunday that he did not want to comment while the police investigation continues. “The police are doing a full investigation,” the man said through a partially opened front door. There was broken glass in the backyard Sunday and a ladder leading up to a second-story window.
Neighbors on the street of modest, Colonial homes said they had heard about the burglary. The homeowner’s name and address were included recently on the controversial interactive map of gun permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties published on The Journal News’ website.
Neighbor John Mascia said “HE THOUGHT THE GUN PERMIT DATABASE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED!
“I COULD [not] CARE LESS WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR HOME!” Mascia said.
Police are investigating what role, if any, the database played in the burglars’ decision to target the home, the law enforcement source said.
White Plains police Lt. Eric Fischer confirmed that a burglary occurred but would not release further information Sunday.The Journal News has been the target of sharp criticism from gun rights advocates and some media ethicists since running the story and interactive map Dec. 23. The story was published 10 days after the Newtown, Conn., mass shooting that claimed the lives of 20 young children and seven adults.
A call for comment to The Journal News was not immediately returned.(NOW JOURNAL NEWS HAS NOTHING TO SAY!?)
Although some good-government groups have come to the defense of the White Plains-based newspaper, some elected officials, including State Sen. Greg Ball (R-Patterson, have complained the permit map could aid criminals.”If the connection is proven, this is further proof that these maps are not only an invasion of privacy but that they present a clear and present danger to law-abiding, private citizens,” Ball said Sunday in a statement.
On Monday, Ball will introduce a third bill into the state Legislature intended to keep the names of those who have gun permits private.
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/journal-news-gun-permit-map-used-by-burglars-to-target-white-plains-home-1.4441678
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70 year old mans house targeted for his gun safe! MUCH DAMAGE, luckily he was not injured!!!
THANK YOU, ALL YOU BASTARDS @ JOURNAL NEWS! GO HIDE BEHIND YOUR “ARMED” GUARDS. LETS SEE HOW LONG THEY STAND BETWEEN YOU AND ANGRY PUBLIC! I FIGURE SINCE YOU GAVE OUT THEIR INFO ALSO, IT WON”T BE LONG!!!
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!
I wonder how much money, time, services, and resources the local towns police department has used up to chase JOURNAL News’s accusations and false “SNIPE” hunts that they made up trying to sell more news papers?
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOSE THEIR LIVES BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SELL NEWS PAPERS!?
HOW MANY PEOPLES LIVES ARE YOU GOING TO DESTROY!?
HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE NOW GOING TO BE TERRORIZED BECAUSE OF YOUR IRRESPONSIBILITY!?
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE GOING TO BURY SO YOU CAN SELL A NEWSPAPER!?
How much have they already paid out on private security for all the executives and buildings!?
Don’t forget about the hotel rooms for everybody!?
How many false calls have JOURNAL NEWS employes made to have local police chasing after false reports to hopefully sell more papers?
How much is JOURNAL NEWS going to be pay in future costs because of their actions to try to sell more papers?
How come the police have not charged the JOURNAL NEWS with filing false police reports!?
I bet the town is looking for money to pay all these expenses, but you know, the privileged JOURNAL NEWS will tell them at the town hall board meeting that they deserve all of these “services” because they are doing such a fine service for the community and town,..LOL
Hey JOURNAL NEWS how come you haven’t wrote a story on the wastefulness of a large company in your town that happens to be occupying the space your taking up with the towns money!?!
BIG SCOOP Hint: Its called THE JOURNAL NEWS!
Look it up on your map if your having trouble finding it. It will be listed under HIPPOCRATES!
TODAY: 20 CHILDREN DIE IN NEW YORK! BAN the Flu?(GUNS?)
The New Yorker, January 13, 2013, For God’s Sake, Go Get a Flu Shot-(GUN BAN)! Posted by Michael Specter
Interesting:
I have heard the following short paragraph worded in a similar way before, but with a few changes, as demonstrated in the second paragraph, below, the opening paragraph of the real Flu story:
ORIGINAL OPENING STATEMENT ON REAL STORY:
“Nobody yet knows how severe this year’s epidemic of influenza will be. Nobody can ever know in advance. Yet, the evidence that this one will be bad is mounting: In New York, where TWENTY CHILDREN have already DIED, Governor Cuomo has DECLARED a PUBLIC-health EMERGENCY. The virus has already spread widely throughout the country and it’s not peaked yet.”
LET ME REPHRASE THE ABOVE to demonstrate for the uneducated THE WAY OF JOURNALISTIC HYPE Class 101, Re Written Paragraph as follows:
“Nobody yet knows how severe this year’s(GUN SHOOTINGS) will be. Nobody can ever know in advance. Yet, the evidence that this one will be bad is mounting: In New York, where TWENTY CHILDREN have already DIED, Governor Cuomo has DECLARED a (FIREARMS BAN) EMERGENCY. The (Violence) has already spread widely throughout the country and (GUN VIOLENCE) has not peaked yet.”
:SOUND FAMILIAR!?
Notice how the writer invoked the now famous “20 CHILDREN DIED” line, and also used the now famous line: “GOVERNOR CUOMO DECLARED” and also the words: “PUBLIC-EMERGENCY”
Sarcasm intended!:
QUICK, BAN THE FLU-(GUNs)!, CHANGE THE LAWS-(SECOND AMENDMENT) NOW!, CHILDREN ARE DIEING FROM THE FLU-(GUNs) EVERYDAY!
Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/01/for-gods-sake-go-get-a-flu-shot.html#ixzz2Ht1sKolv
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/01/for-gods-sake-go-get-a-flu-shot.html
THOUGHTS ON HOW TYRANTS CONTROL BY: ARISTOTLE
“Tyrants preserve themselves by sowing fear and mistrust among the citizens by means of spies, by distracting them with foreign wars, by eliminating men of spirit who might lead a revolution, by humbling the people, and making them incapable of decisive action…” … Aristotle
The Ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle was born circa 384 B.C. in Stagira, Greece. When he turned 17, he enrolled in Plato’s Academy. Aristotle maintained a relationship with Greek philosopher Plato, himself a student of Socrates, and his academy for two decades. In 338 B.C., Aristotle went to Macedonia to start tutoring King Phillip II’s son, the then 13-year-old Alexander the Great. Phillip and Alexander both held Aristotle in high esteem. In 335, Aristotle founded his own school, the Lyceum, in Athens, where he spent most of the rest of his life studying, teaching and writing. Aristotle died in 322 B.C.
PERSPECTIVE FROM A AMERICAN INDIAN ON GUN CONTROL
No Guns, No Freedom, No Country, by David Yeagley, January 10, 2013 (American Indians join the second U.S. Civil War) This Perspective is Given From A TRUE AMERICAN, A NATIVE AMERICAN!
Will the gun rights issue be the tipping point for the American public? One major issue after another, robbing Americans of Constitutional rights, has passed before the Congress of the United States, and no successful effort has been made. Will the gun control laws be the straw that breaks the camel’s back? Since 2001, I have written about gun rights. My very first article for FrontPageMagazine.com was “Warriors and Weapons,” January 26, 2001. I published many since. I developed a speech for Young America’s Foundation called “He Who Takes My Weapon Is My Enemy,” (last delivered at Oberlin College, December 3, 2007). “The Christian Case Against Gun Control,” was published in FrontPage on April 7, 2004. (This article has references to early American gun laws.) I developed a speech called, “Can A Christian Pull the Trigger?” This was one of my most popular speeches when I was on the lecture circuit.
Certainly in American history, having a gun, and knowing how to Use and care for it, was part of what it meant to be a man. There was a time when this was required by law. In that day, the rifle was hung above the hearth, right above the Bible. For an Indian Brave, the artful use of weapons was the definition of the warrior. Weapons were always carried about on the person. It was part of the dress. One wouldn’t dare be caught without a weapon.
Somewhere along the line of American history, Defense was assigned to a special group, a sheriff, police, army, etc. The responsibility of self-defense taken away from the Individual members of society that were left defenseless, and harmless, or so the early liberals esteemed them. Today, the TYRANTS in Washington are determined to remove as many weapons from society as possible. It’s all about safety, according to their passionate propaganda. True Patriots know it’s all about TYRANNY, and DISARMING the PUBLIC, so that the TYRANTS can have full control over the “SHEEP.”
Insane, Murderous shootings are nearly a daily occurrence now.
The liberals determined that the Mentally Ill all had “Rights” to freedom, and so the Crazies are taking up weapons and murdering people! So, one liberal tenet: -Mentally Ill “Rights” strengthens another- Gun Control! I see, once again, that conservative talk is ineffective. The Tide of Tyranny Rises, Continually.
JUST TAKE IT FROM AN INDIAN: NEVER, EVER SURRENDER YOUR WEAPON! IT MEANS DEFEAT! IT MEANS YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE SUPERIOR FORCE OF HIM WHO DEMANDS YOUR WEAPON! UNLESS YOU ARE READY TO DO THAT, HOLD ON TO YOUR WEAPON. IT IS ABOUT PERSONAL DEFENSE NOW, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT!
I don’t know that the gun control issue will turn the tide. I don’t know that weapons will once again define patriotism. I DO KNOW THAT WITHOUT WEAPONS, THE PEOPLE ARE LIKE SHEEP AND WILL BE SLAUGHTERED! Yes, You Can Surrender, but you’ll likely be slaughtered anyway, (JUST LIKE THE NATIVE AMERICAN POPULATION WAS!)
FULL STORY: http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2013/01/american-indians-join-second-us-civil.html
Why does the government of MEXICO DICTATE US GUN LAW?!?
Mexico Sticks Its Nose Into US Gun Control Fight Demanding Americans Register Their Guns in Border States, January 11, 2013, Elyssa Pachico, InSight Crime.
— Mexico’s Congress voted to formally ask the United States Senate to create a registry of all commercialized firearms in the states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. Although the motion will have little impact in the US, it shows the gun control issue continues to resonate on both sides of the border. The measure was approved January 9 by Mexico’s Permanent Commission, the government body that meets when the Senate and the lower house of Congress, the Chamber of Deputies, is in recess. The Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) senator who introduced the proposal said it was intended to make it easier to trace guns used in violent attacks, reports Mexican newspaper Informador. Close to 60,000 people were killed during the six-year presidency of Felipe Calderon, who left office in December.
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-briefs/mexico-to-ask-us-senate-to-create-gun-registry
MEXICO CARTELS PAY OFF CORRUPT U.S. BORDER PATROL
Mexican Narco-Terrorist Cartels Pay Corrupt CBP Officers to Smuggle Drugs and ILLEGALS Into US. January 12, 2013.
CBS News — Mexican drug cartels are using money, drugs and sex to pay off corrupt U.S. Border Patrol agents in order to smuggle drugs and people into the United States, CBS News Investigative Correspondent, Sharyl Attkisson reports this weekend on CBS SUNDAY MORNING WITH CHARLES OSGOOD. “I will tell you that drug cartels are becoming increasingly aggressive in targeting and recruiting officers to work with them,” FBI Special Agent, Terry Reed, tells Attkisson. “They’re using cold war style tactics – money, sex, drugs – to convince officers to work with them and to help get their products and their people across the border. http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-news/releases/view?id=34249
:MORE CONCERNED FOR ILLEGALS THAT LAW ABIDING CITIZENS RIGHTS!
GAO Report: 3 MILLION ILLEGALS INCLUDING DRUG CARTEL PEOPLE Entered Arizona via Mexico Border just in Arizona alone Since 2006
Published January 11, 2013 at 5:00 am
HOW MANY LAW ABIDING CITIZENS HAVE BEE KILLED BY CRIMINAL ILLEGALS CROSSING THE STILL OPEN BORDER IN ARIZONA ALONE!?!? (OBAMA: NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG!)
Mike Sunnucks | Phoenix Business Journal — An estimated 3.1 million illegal immigrants entered the U.S. through the Arizona-Mexico border between 2006 and 2011, according to a new federal report on border security. But the number of illegal immigrants entries into the state from Mexico as well as apprehensions has dropped by 69 percent since 2006 with the U.S. job market hurt by the recession and more federal agents and security fences installed along the border.
FULL STORY: http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2013/01/10/border-report-3m-illegal-immigrants.html
PROOF THAT WALMART BRIBES PAID TO LOCAL OFFICALS!!
***OBAMA HOLDS DEMOCRATIC INVESTIGATION OF MEXICAN BRIBERY ALLEGATIONS AND FEDERAL CHARGES TO BE BROUGHT OVER WALMART CEO”S HEAD TO FORCE COOPERATION ON GUN CONTROL!!!!
Published January 11, 2013 at 4:24 pm
THE CHICAGO MACHINE IS HARD AT WORK IN WASHINGTON!!!
Fox News Latino — New emails released by U.S. lawmakers show that Wal-Mart CEO Mike Duke learned in 2005 that executives in the company’s México unit handed out bribes to local officials — contradicting earlier statements that the company knew nothing about it.
Democratic Congressmen Elijah Cummings and Henry Waxman, who are investigating bribery charges at Wal-Mart’s Mexico division, released emails on Thursday that indicate that Duke and other senior Wal-Mart officials were informed multiple times starting in 2005 about bribes being made in the country. U.S. law forbids American companies from bribing foreign officials.
http://oneoldvet.com/?paged=2
FULL STORY
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/01/11/lawmakers-release-documents-on-wal-mart-bribery/#ixzz2Hhj42x5H
MEXICO HAS CONTRIBUTED: SHOWED US GUN LAWS DO NOT WORK
Mexico Has Contributed Something Useful – Showed Us That Gun Laws Do Not Work.
Mexico has a simply awful set of gun control laws. It is very hard for a Mexican citizen to get permission to buy a gun. Generally they can only get one gun and nothing resembling a center-fire assault rifle. A person can go to jail in Mexico for merely having one round of .22 cal ammunition in his car or on his person without registration of a gun to match it. Look how well it is working. They have bound the hands of the law abiding citizens and the criminal gangs are thriving big time. The gangs have assault weapons that fire full auto, grenades, 400mm grenades that fire from assault rifle under barrels, RPG’s and other weapons that are of course against the law. Mexico is a classical textbook example of why gun control laws do not work.
Criminals about to commit armed robbery, kidnapping, murder, transportation of massive amounts of narcotics cannot be bothered with the thought of an illegal gun causing them to have an extra charge if caught. They are more worried about defending themselves so they do not get killed in the course of committing the crime. Is that so hard to understand. Congratulations Mexico you have made your law abiding citizens defenseless and allowed the drug gangs to thrive. Now your law abiding citizens life in fear of being shot down by criminal gangsters and they have no way of defending themselves.
BULLY Brit Piers Morgan CONFRONTED BY BEN SHAPIRO
MUST VIEW VIDEO: Ben Shapiro Destroys Gun Grabbing Brit Piers Morgan — Calls Him a ‘Bully’ ‘Standing on the Graves’ of Dead Children, January 10, 2013
VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJdhAm_oUUs
From: Cap’n Bubba , Terrebone, LA.
I Recommended this book , but when I Saw Him on The “P.M. Show” ,(Ben Shapiro) and The English Bob Started Speaking , I Was Forced by Conscience To Change Channels as To Avoid Hearing That “Former Enemy” , and Immigrant Downgrade , and Impune OUR “Bill of Rights” , Especially The 2nd Amendment That HE Feels is Not Needed , because British Subjects Are Not Permitted to Own Firearms , and Their Gun Violence is Near Zero , A Blatant Lie , But He Controls The Wattage , and WILL Cut You Off if You Disagree!
Anyway The Book IS Worth a Read , and In My case a Purchase , Mostly because of the Balance of Ideas in the book , and The fact That it does Not only Address Guns , but The “New Liberal Militant” Mentality coming into The New Society of Young Adults in the Country , Especially Those in The New Voter Position , and in our Society , and That is Dangerous When You “Tell” People WHAT To Think , or WHO To Vote for!
And Cousin , That Ain’t “America” , Not Here Anyway .
Bubba St. Jaques , (Cap’n Bubba) , Terrebone Parish , LA.
WYOMING GUN PROTECTION BILL TO STOP FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
Wyoming Considers Gun Protection Bill
Published January 11, 2013 at 4:33 pm
Todd Starnes | Fox News — A group of Wyoming lawmakers is pushing to preempt any federal crackdown on assault weapons in the aftermath of last month’s school shooting in Connecticut.
The bill would prohibit any Wyoming law enforcement official from enforcing federal gun restrictions. “It’s because we take our Constitutional protections seriously,” Wyoming Rep. Kendell Kroeker told Fox News. “I took an oath to uphold, support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Wyoming.”
The bill reads: “No public servant as defined in W.S. 6-5-101, or dealer selling any firearm in this state shall enforce or attempt to enforce any act, law, statute, rule or regulation of the United States government relating to a personal firearm, firearm accessory or ammunition that is owned or manufactured commercially or privately in Wyoming and that remains exclusively within the borders of Wyoming.”
Kroeker said he wanted to put some measure in place to protect Wyoming gun owners should President Obama enact gun control. http://oneoldvet.com/?paged=2
NEVER FORGET THE PAST!!!
There was a country in the past where only the police and the government had guns, see how it worked out for them,….
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQA1tMyM4r59EhaWD2SF3ZE12Emt2oJ1uLGyFnkcekY8N5AscHr9PHfyOH5kw
JOURNAL NEWS TRAINED POLICE to pick up their “POOP”!
THIS IS HILARIOUS!!! JOURNAL NEWS IS THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE COMMUNITY!!!
EVEN THE DETECTIVE DIVISION IS LAUGHING!
Lt. Eric Fischer, commander of the Detective Division,“OBVIOUSLY, WE”RE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY,” he said. “It’s an active investigation.”( LOL, YES, ALL THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE and GUARDS Journal News OUTED ARE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY! LOL )
***LOL*** The police were so concerned about the “THREAT” they stayed for “A WHOLE HOUR”! LOL!!! (I guess to “gather” the evidence!?)
WOW!, JOURNAL NEWS IS NOW TREATING LAW ENFORCEMENT LIKE DOGS,… Journal news has the police and law enforcement TRAINED to pick up “POOP” after they make it!, LOL!!!
Suspicious package sent to Journal News editor’s home contained fecal matter, WHITE PLAINS (POOP) BOMB SCARE!, ***STORY***: White Plains and Westchester County police and the Westchester County Bomb squad responded to McBride Avenue, where a suspicious package was delivered to the home of Journal News Executive Editor CynDee Royle Thursday. The package was removed and found to contain non-toxic fecal matter.
BELOW are some comments left on JOURNAL NEWS’s own comments section that were written by some of their own “Top Commentators” LOL!
***Bob Ondrovic · Fordham/Fordham Law: I guess that means that someone left a copy of journal news in her mailbox……
***Ted Smith · Top Commenter: “Suspicious package sent to Journal News editor’s home contained fecal matter”. -FECAL MATTER = THE USUAL CONTENT OF THE JOURNAL NERDS’ EDITORIAL & REPORTING POLICIES, SO WHAT”S THE BIG SURPRISE HERE? http://i49.tinypic.com/qp3sy9.jpg http://i48.tinypic.com/25k7ypv.jpg
***Richard Price · Top Commenter: What goes around comes around. P.S. You’ll never work at another media outlet the rest of your life. Trust me!
***Michael Fenner · Yonkers High School: Hey Donna, what about the Police Officers & Retired Officers who spend their Careers keeping the Public Safe. As well as Prison Guards. Now they & their Family’s can be easy Targets for those with Grudges. Great Way To Repay The Men & Women Of Law Enforcement.
***Tony Virga: Or the woman who are being stalked by nut-jobs. The paper could have posted names with no addresses
***Henri Gagnon: I think the people at the newspaper are pulling a lot of these stunts themselves to make themselves out to be the victims.
***Joseph Maschak · Top Commenter: Normally I do not condone childish pranks, but this made me chuckle. Maybe they could search the feces for a red balloon.(like the ones on their map!)
***STORY***: WHITE PLAINS — A suspicious package delivered to The Journal News editor’s home Thursday turned out to contain non-toxic fecal matter, police said today. Public Safety Commissioner David Chong would not say whether the white shipping envelope delivered to the home of CynDee Royle, The Journal News editor and vice president/news, contained a message or threat. City police and members of the Westchester County Bomb Squad were dispatched to a McBride Avenue home Thursday afternoon on a report of a suspicious package in a mailbox. It was the fifth instance of a suspicious letter or package being delivered to the newspaper’s White Plains offices or to the homes of company employees since The Journal News published a Dec. 23 article titled “The gun owner next door: What you don’t know about the weapons in your neighborhood.” The report included an interactive map on LoHud.com that shows the homes of licensed handgun owners in Westchester and Rockland counties.
Lt. Eric Fischer, commander of the Detective Division, said today that police are working with county and state authorities in trying to determine who sent the package and letters.
“OBVIOUSLY, WE”RE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY,” he said. “It’s an active investigation.” He would not discuss details of the investigation or say whether police have any leads in the case.
On Thursday, about 20 police officers from the city and the county, the bomb squad, a White Plains firetruck and two ambulances responded to McBride Avenue and remained for more than one hour. The bomb squad removed the package and transported it to a county public-safety facility in Valhalla for analysis. McBride Avenue was closed in both directions between North Broadway and Hawthorne Street, and neighbors were allowed to remain in their homes. http://www.lohud.com/article/20130111/NEWS02/301110047/Suspicious-package-sent-Journal-News-editor-s-home-contained-fecal-matter?nclick_check=1
Even more new developments
Here are three more stories related to the Journal News’ infamous gun owner list, none of them favorable to the JN:
1. A Rockland Times reader posting under the name John Leitch says the Journal News is “very wrong” when it claims on its website: “The database behind the map is not downloadable and the information can not be filtered or sorted.”
At the end of a Rockland Times article [See Item #2], John Leitch explains why the JN was wrong … then presents a link demonstrating what kind of data he was able to glean from the “not downloadable” database. (WARNING: Adult language.)
http://pastebin.com/jTR34wqQ
2. By a 4-0 vote, the Orangetown (N.Y.) Town Board approved the following resolution: “Resolved that the Orangetown Town Board condemns The Journal-News for publishing the names and addresses of legal gun permit owners in Rockland County. This reporting was unnecessary and potentially dangerous.”
The Orangetown police chief said the JN’s list jeopardizes the safety of undercover officers and other gun permit holders.
http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/10/chief-nulty-says-journal-news-endangers-undercover-officers-orangetown-council-blasts-journal-news-gun-map/
3. From the Bedford (N.Y.) Daily Voice:
A Westchester law enforcement organization said it will hold The Journal News responsible for any crimes against its members stemming from publication of the names of gun permit-holders in Westchester and Putnam counties.
The newspaper put active and retired law enforcement officers and their families in “grave and immediate danger,” along with the others on the list, the Affiliated Police Association said in a news release Friday. The group is an umbrella organization for 53 law enforcement groups in the region.
http://bedford.dailyvoice.com/news/police-group-asks-journal-news-take-gun-map-down
I cancelled my home deilvery
I cancelled my home delivery of the journal news. I suggest everyone do the same thing. Let’s stand together and show the Journal News.
Package for CynDee
Somebody sent Journal News editor CynDee Royle a late Christmas present — a box of crap — and 20 police officers had to waste their time telling her what it was.
So says the Journal News, which reports that police were initially told of a “suspicious package” in CynDee’s mailbox.
After sending a bomb squad and other personnel, the officers discovered the box contained “non-toxic fecal matter.”
http://www.lohud.com/article/20130111/NEWS02/301110047/Suspicious-package-sent-Journal-News-editor-s-home-contained-fecal-matter
Unlike the classic Halloween gag, the package in question was not on fire.
Do a DNA analysis on the poop.
They should do a DNA analysis on the poop. Maybe CynDee sent it to herself. These people are disparate and will try anything to sell newspapers.
Their gun map publicity stunt backfired, they alienated their core audience, and have advertisers nervous, as their circulation numbers continue to shrink.
It is only a matter of time before Gannet changes the management at the failed JN or closes the publication.
No circulation + no advertisers + no revenue = no jobs at the Journal News.
There are consequences for irresponsible free speech.
Their brand is damaged beyond repair and they will not be missed.
PS: A note to JN staffers, thank your bosses for putting you on the unemployment line and possibly ending your journalism careers.
Good luck finding another job in journalism.
What Cox wants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPjjp5t35vo
Robert’s opponents are
Robert’s opponents are getting desperate.
They’ve failed spectacularly in their attempt to intimidate him … as evidenced by the fact that the names, addresses and phone numbers of Journal News employees remain proudly displayed on his website.
It reminds Robert’s detractors of their own impotence in this situation.
Elitist newspapers like the Journal News aren’t used to dealing with life outside their ivory tower. Imagine, having to be concerned for the safety of themselves and their families — just like the unwashed masses they so cavalierly write about.
A Good Cause .:Cap’n Bubba ,
If This “Blog” Prevents Just “One” Joe(“Scranton Joe”) Biden from getting hurt , Then it will have All been worth the effort !
Cap’n Bubba , Gator Specialties , LA.
A Good Cause .:Cap’n Bubba ,
If This “Blog” Prevents Just “One” Joe(“Scranton Joe”) Biden from getting hurt , Then it will have All been worth the effort !
Cap’n Bubba , Gator Specialties , LA.
TRUE STORIES Bloomburg and Journal News will not report on
http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx
JOURNAL NEWS WASTING: POLICE RESOURCES, MONEY
JOURNAL NEWS WASTING: POLICE RESOURCES, MONEY
I wonder how much money, time, services, and resources the local towns police department has used up to chase JOURNAL News’s accusations and false “SNIPE” hunts that they made up trying to sell more news papers?
How much have they already paid out on private security for all the executives and buildings!?
Don’t forget about the hotel rooms for everybody!?
How many false calls have JOURNAL NEWS employes made to have local police chasing after false reports to hopefully sell more papers?
How much is JOURNAL NEWS going to be pay in future costs because of their actions to try to sell more papers?
How come the police have not charged the JOURNAL NEWS with filing false police reports!?
I bet the town is looking for money to pay all these expenses, but you know, the privileged JOURNAL NEWS will tell them at the town hall board meeting that they deserve all of these “services” because they are doing such a fine service for the community and town,..LOL
Hey JOURNAL NEWS how come you haven’t wrote a story on the wastefulness of a large company in your town that happens to be occupying the space your taking up with the towns money!?!
BIG SCOOP Hint: Its called THE JOURNAL NEWS!
Look it up on your map if your having trouble finding it. It will be listed under HIPPOCRATES!
DAM is definitely an acronym..
Questions remain as to who this coxite is..
Why
Why can’t I support something that I believe in, why do people have to think it is Robert? I noticed it cost him $400 per month to keep the site running and I used my military leadership to inspire others to donate, what is wrong with that? Why do you need my name and address, what are your intentions? Keep in mind that Roberts intent was to take down the JN map, my comments are that the judicial system is broken, the 2nd amendment is to bear arms capable of defeating a government and third the separation of church and state only means a religious leader cannot be the President, it does not afford individuals the right to be offended by other displaying their religion. Do you really need my name and address? If I posted it would you believe it or take the same ground that the information is false? If you have been following the site for some time it has morphed from the JN map to a discussion over 1st and 2nd amendment rights. However Roberts has in no way tried to stop this, he is allowing us to voice our thoughts. It is his site and he can block whoever he wants, but has not. For what reason should I disclose my name and address, and secondly what are your intentions?
Forgot to put my initials DAM
Just donate and stop this nonsense. Put your money up as I did.
DAM
I have been keeping tabs on
I have been keeping tabs on all of this on here and reading everything. It is clear why people are upset with this newspaper. But I think it has gotten out of control. If we come off scary we lose. We can’t get emotional. We have to keep our heads. I defend the second amendment, but it seems from all I read that this Cox guy is just trying to cash in and I think he wants us to fight his personal battle. I saw him post that he wants us to help him find dirt on some family that sued him in court. That is not my fight. One blog said his daughter actually works for the company that owns this newspaper. Is that true? Is that why he stopped updating the journal news map for more than a week? Let’s keep our heads people.
Reply
What does this have to do with my post? I’m not Robert. While you have the right to believe that Robert is trying to cash in, I don’t believe that. Nothing is out of control. Things will be out of control when the President bypasses congress and sign an executive order on gun control. Only congress can write and pass a law. Where is the check and balance that was built into our country? We have a renegade that knowingly and willfully going to violate the constitution and bypass congress and the check and balance of our system. Some states and individual local governments are working to pass laws stating they will not be the one to collect up weapons. In short they want the public to know they are not the enemy. If the Federal Government wants to pass such an executive order, then it will take the National Guard to be ordered to take action. While I don’t want to down play the National Guard for their service in foreign wars, they are poorly trained and equipped. They are not capable of carrying out such a mission, by the way they are our neighbors and friends. They also own guns. Just don’t see anything where the Government orders a collection of any type of weapons.
You are correct. I did not
You are correct. I did not mean to dispute the point you were making. I posted after reading many comments and did not mean it as a reply to yours. It is good that you are focused on this.
Thanks
Thanks you for your honesty and my right to post my thoughts. Whatever your belief is, we could have a reasonable debate. Others only want to make their position on no facts. A debate is two sides providing facts for and against an issue.
CCW permit FATHER WITH GUN SAVES 2 MONTH OLD SON!!!
Man Uses Gun to Protect Two-Month Old Son from Armed Robber!
by Mary Chastain, 9 Jan 2013
A man used his gun to protect himself and his two-month old son from a robber in Columbus, Ohio.
Kelby Smith was in the driveway of his brother’s house when a man approached him, put a pistol to his head, and demanded money. While Mr. Smith handed him money he also drew his own weapon. The robber grabbed the money and ran.
But he turned around and pointed the gun at Mr. Smith and his baby. Mr. Smith quickly shot the robber while shielding his baby from the robber.
The robber continued to run, but was found at a nearby hospital. He is now under police guard while he recovers.
Mr. Smith does have a concealed carry permit. Authorities on the scene said they believe he was acting out of self-defense. The police are still investigating and will arrest the man if he is the robber.
This is the second case in less than a week of a parent using a gun to protect their children. Last Friday a mother shot an intruder to protect herself and her twin sons.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/Man-Uses-Gun-To-Protect-2-Month-Old-Son-Against-Armed-Robber
FATHER WITH GUN SAVES 2 MONTH OLD SON!!!
Man Uses Gun to Protect Two-Month Old Son from Armed Robber!
by Mary Chastain, 9 Jan 2013
A man used his gun to protect himself and his two-month old son from a robber in Columbus, Ohio.
Kelby Smith was in the driveway of his brother’s house when a man approached him, put a pistol to his head, and demanded money. While Mr. Smith handed him money he also drew his own weapon. The robber grabbed the money and ran.
But he turned around and pointed the gun at Mr. Smith and his baby. Mr. Smith quickly shot the robber while shielding his baby from the robber.
The robber continued to run, but was found at a nearby hospital. He is now under police guard while he recovers.
Mr. Smith does have a concealed carry permit. Authorities on the scene said they believe he was acting out of self-defense. The police are still investigating and will arrest the man if he is the robber.
This is the second case in less than a week of a parent using a gun to protect their children. Last Friday a mother shot an intruder to protect herself and her twin sons.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/Man-Uses-Gun-To-Protect-2-Month-Old-Son-Against-Armed-Robber
MOTHER HIDING WITH KIDS SHOOTS INTRUDER!!
Mother Hiding with Kids Shoots Intruder, Bluffs her way out after running out of bullets!
by John Nolte, 5 Jan 2013
As I’ve mentioned before, while I’m a huge supporter of the Second Amendment, I’m no fan of guns and sincerely wish that owning one (or three) wasn’t a necessary responsibility, especially when you have a family. Here’s another reason why that’s the case:
[A] woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.
But the man eventually found the family.
“The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he’s staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver,” Chapman told Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh.
The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he moved.
“She’s standing over him, and she realizes she’s fired all six rounds. And the guy’s telling her to quit shooting,” Chapman said.
If this story pans out, what you have is another Exhibit A to explain why owning a firearm and learning how to use it properly is so damned important. Does it sound to you like this guy was simply looking to rob the house? And even if he was, what would he have done had he found three defenseless witnesses who had seen his face?
This story is yet another example of how, in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre, the entire debate surrounding guns has been turned on its head by Democrats and their media allies. What they are pushing for will only serve to make more of us — like this mother of two and the Sandy Hook Elementary students and staff — even more vulnerable to the wicked.
What should be obvious to anyone willing to put ideology aside in favor of what works, is that encouraging responsible citizens to arm themselves (after learning how to safely store and use a firearm) is the smartest, most effective, and most compassionate reaction to an act of evil we know no gun control law would have stopped.
The only thing I dread more than the thought of shooting someone is the thought of needing to shoot someone and being unarmed or out-gunned.
ADDED: A number of folks on Twitter are pointing out that unloading her gun on this intruder failed to kill him. Had she missed her shots or failed to bluff him with the empty gun, having only five rounds might have proved fatal. And yet, Democrats and their media allies want to restrict the number of rounds a magazine will carry.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/05/mother-hiding-with-kids-shoots-intruder
***15 yr old BOY USES AR-15 TO DEFEND 12yr old SISTER!!
15-Year Old Boy Uses AR-15 to Defend Himself, Sister Against Home Invaders!
,by Mary Chastain, 10 Jan 2013
A 15-year old boy used his father’s AR-15 to defend himself and his 12-year old sister against two burglars at their home just north of Houston, Texas. Their father is a Harris County Precinct 1 deputy constable, and the boy knew what he had to do to keep himself and his sister alive. Around 2:30 PM, two men tried to break in, with one going through the front door and the other in the back.
The boy grabbed the AR-15 and shot at them. The two later showed up at a Tomball hospital. The adult was hit three times and was flown to Memorial Hermann hospital, while the juvenile was taken back to the crime scene.
“We don’t try to hide things from our children in law enforcement,” Lt. Jeffrey Stauber said. “THAT YOUNG BOY WAS PROTECTING HIS SISTER! He was in fear for his life and her life!”
More stories are coming out about armed citizens defending their lives and property with legally owned firearms. In the span of a week, Breitbart News has reported how a mother used a .38 revolver against an intruder, a man used his weapon to protect his 2-month old son, and a Colorado man invoked the Make My Day law in Colorado in using lethal force to defend himself against three intruders.
Senator Dianne Feinstein and others are trying to push through major gun control laws that would include banning the AR-15, the same gun used by the teenage boy.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/15-Year-Old-Boy-Uses-AR-15-To-Defend-House-Against-Burglars
BOY USES AR-15 TO DEFEND SELF AND his 12yr old SISTER
15-Year Old Boy Uses AR-15 to Defend Himself, Sister Against Home Invaders
,by Mary Chastain,
10 Jan 2013
A 15-year old boy used his father’s AR-15 to defend himself and his 12-year old sister against two burglars at their home just north of Houston, Texas.
Their father is a Harris County Precinct 1 deputy constable, and the boy knew what he had to do to keep himself and his sister alive. Around 2:30 PM, two men tried to break in, with one going through the front door and the other in the back.
The boy grabbed the AR-15 and shot at them. The two later showed up at a Tomball hospital. The adult was hit three times and was flown to Memorial Hermann hospital, while the juvenile was taken back to the crime scene.
“We don’t try to hide things from our children in law enforcement,” Lt. Jeffrey Stauber said. “That young boy was protecting his sister. He was in fear for his life and her life.”
More stories are coming out about armed citizens defending their lives and property with legally owned firearms. In the span of a week, Breitbart News has reported how a mother used a .38 revolver against an intruder, a man used his weapon to protect his 2-month old son, and a Colorado man invoked the Make My Day law in Colorado in using lethal force to defend himself against three intruders.
Senator Dianne Feinstein and others are trying to push through major gun control laws that would include banning the AR-15, the same gun used by the teenage boy.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/15-Year-Old-Boy-Uses-AR-15-To-Defend-House-Against-Burglars
GANGBANGER STOPPED by ARMED OFFICER AT SCHOOL
Officer stops gang member’s gun violence outside elementary school!
Officer Daniel Chaves:
“THE FACT THAT I WAS ARMED WAS MOST LIKELY REASON Siprian SURRENDERED!.”
Posted on January 10th, 2013 by Tonya Page
:An LAPD officer was able to successfully capture and arrest a gang member outside of an elementary school.
A matter of days after the Los Angeles Police Department increased their presence at local elementary and middle schools throughout the county, Officer Daniel Chavez was able to locate a gang member located outside of one of the community’s elementary schools. According to ABC affiliate KABC, Officer Chavez was patrolling Magnolia Avenue Elementary School on January 8 when he heard several gunshots pop just as the children were getting out of school.
“Marbin Siprian, 18, was taken into custody,” the source reported. “Police say he’s a documented gang member on juvenile probation. Parents could not be happier that he’s off the street and that Officer Chavez was at the school. Officer Chavez is a 10-year veteran who says even before Operation Embrace, he started regular visits to schools in his Pico-Union patrol area.”
Officer Chavez was able to recover a .357 Magnum firearm out of the suspect’s waistband after chasing him down. Officer Chavez told the source he was able to catch Siprian because the suspect couldn’t see him as he ordered the children to return to their classrooms. Officer Chavez referred to his capture of Siprian as “stealth-like,” and attributed “THE FACT THAT I WAS ARMED was reason Siprian most likely surrendered!”
Within the past three years, there have been almost 16,400 gang-related crimes reported in the county, the majority of them felony assaults, robberies and homicides.
“Gang membership in Los Angeles has continued to increase over the past five years. One of the major factors contributing to increased gangs, gang membership and violence has been the lucrative narcotics trade, with rival gangs vying for the greatest market share.”
http://www.familybailbonds.com/news/los-angeles-bail-bonds/officer-stops-gang-members-gun-violence-outside-elementary-school/
Their Back
The liberals are back giving thumbs down and comments with no facts to support their case.
Ah, well
Who cares how many “thumbs down” votes they cast? The fact that they can’t take down the names, addresses and phone numbers of Journal News employees only demonstrates how impotent they are in this situation.
And to any other newspaper with a similarly “brilliant” idea of trying to intimidate law-abiding citizens, you can expect your own staffers to get the same exposure with the “legally obtained, publicly available” information you so cherish.
WARNING ON GUN RIGHTS: by former State Dept. Sr. Advisor
A warning on gun rights, 1:06 PM 01/10/2013
Christian Whiton, Fmr. State Dept Sr. Advisor
There’s a movie that shows what can happen when only the military and police have guns. It’s called “Schindler’s List.”
While our Founding Fathers could not have foreseen the murderous Nazi despotism about which that movie was made, they knew a great deal about tyranny and its historical prevalence. The steps the Founders took to prevent loss of freedom should loom large in the minds of Washington Republicans as they make decisions that will determine the future of the GOP.
For starters, the Second Amendment, which contemplates a “well-regulated militia” and recognizes the unalienable right to keep and bear arms, has precisely nothing to do with hunting, recreation or even self-defense against criminals. It was intended as a political right and has subsequently been recognized as such by the Supreme Court. In 2010, the Court proclaimed gun rights anew, finding that: “It is clear that the Framers … counted the right to keep and bear arms among those fundamental rights necessary to our system of ordered liberty.”
As one of the Founders, Tench Coxe, put it: “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? … Congress has no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every terrible implement of the soldier are the birthright of Americans.”
The implication is simple. While the ballot box combined with freedom of speech and press are often enough to preserve liberty in an established democracy, a further firewall of last resort is essential. That firewall is a citizenry with the realistic physical means to resist a political class if it turns on them. This capability is what Mr. Obama’s Washington is now threatening — something an active minority of Americans grasp.Then there is the common sense of the matter. None of the anti-gun measures broached since the Newtown massacre could plausibly reduce crime or prevent such atrocities. Criminals and dangerous lunatics — the very people progressives have turned loose in every major American city since the 1960s — can always ignore laws and obtain the means of destruction. Only the law-abiding observe gun laws.
Today’s most violent and crime-infested cities have gun laws far more regressive than those currently being contemplated. In 2006, I was mugged by two pistol-wielding criminals in Washington, D.C., which then had a total handgun ban. Obama’s hometown of Chicago has similarly tough gun laws and yet is America’s most violent big city. Britain — often held up as the nirvana of gun opponents — actually has a higher violent crime rate than the United States. Gun control only disarms victims and doesn’t work.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/10/a-warning-on-gun-rights/#ixzz2Hhzn4PVk
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/10/a-warning-on-gun-rights/#ixzz2HhzdlRAs
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/10/a-warning-on-gun-rights/#ixzz2HhxuFLQp
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/10/a-warning-on-gun-rights/
DON’T REPEAT THE PAST! NERVER FOR GET THE PAST!!!
***Never Forget What Will Happen!***
“I saw a movie once where only the police and military had guns…”
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****WALMART: TAKING YOUR 2nd AMENDMENT RIGHTS !!!
Jan 10, 2013 Posted by Sebastian,
“He Will Gladly Screw You Tuesday”
“USA Today Says that assault will come Tuesday.”
Holder will also hold a separate meeting with some of the nation’s top gun sellers, including the megaretailer Wal-Mart, to discuss the issue. Wal-Mart had initially turned down an invitation from the Obama administration to participate because the company said senior executives were unavailable to travel.
Call WALMART Corporate offices with your concerns: 1-479-273-4000. Walmart clearly cares about Mayor BLOOMBERG, and the WHITE HOUSE, but WALMART DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU the customer or your opinions!
WALMART Statement: Jan. 9, 2013 – “Walmart, like the rest of the country, has been engaged in a national dialogue about the responsible sale and regulation of firearms. “We have had ongoing conversations with the Administration, Congress, Mayor Bloomberg’s office, sportsmen groups, suppliers and others to listen and share our thoughts and experiences.
“Over the years we have been very purposeful about striking the right balance between serving hunters and sportsmen and ensuring that we sell firearms responsibly. In fact, we became a charter member of Mayor Bloomberg’s coalition against illegal guns and adopted the 10-point code established by the Responsible Firearms Retailer Partnership that goes beyond what the law requires. “Knowing our senior leaders could not be in Washington this week, we spoke in advance with the Vice President’s office to share our perspective. We underestimated the expectation to attend the meeting on Thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate.
“We take this issue very seriously and are committed to staying engaged in this discussion as the Administration and Congress work toward a consensus on the right path forward.” David Tovar, Vice President, Corporate Communications, Phone: 1-479-273-4000, Fax:1-479-227-1830, e-mail: info@wal-mart.com
We must keep the pressure on Wal-Mart. I can easily stop shopping there. I know it’s hard for a lot of you folks, but Amazon Prime is pretty damned good, and there’s also Target. If Wal-Mart decides they don’t need us, I say screw them, we don’t need them. At the very least, if you can’t boycott Wal-Mart if they play ball with Obama, don’t buy guns or ammo there. We need to beat these bastards back, and turn turn around and continue to free New York and Chicago. Don’t just beat Bloomberg and Rahm, they have to pay for this. They will pay for this by being forced to respect the Second Amendment. You’re part of America, whether you like that or not.
Call WALMART Corporate offices with your concerns: 1-479-273-4000
http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/01/10/hey-will-gladly-screw-you-tuesday/
Wow
You are one paranoid irrational freak. God forbid anyone has a sensible discussion. You are what is wrong with this country.
JOURNAL NEWS WAISTING: POLICE RESOURCES, MONEY
I wonder how much money, time, services, and resources the local towns police department has used up to chase JOURNAL News’s accusations and false “SNIPE” hunts that they made up trying to sell more news papers?
How much have they already paid out on private security for all the executives and buildings!?
Don’t forget about the hotel rooms for everybody!?
How many false calls have JOURNAL NEWS employes made to have local police chasing after false reports to hopefully sell more papers?
How much is JOURNAL NEWS going to be pay in future costs because of their actions to try to sell more papers?
How come the police have not charged the JOURNAL NEWS with filing false police reports!?
I bet the town is looking for money to pay all these expenses, but you know, the privileged JOURNAL NEWS will tell them at the town hall board meeting that they deserve all of these “services” because they are doing such a fine service for the community and town,..LOL
Hey JOURNAL NEWS how come you haven’t wrote a story on the wastefulness of a large company in your town that happens to be occupying the space your taking up with the towns money!?!
BIG SCOOP Hint: Its called THE JOURNAL NEWS!
Look it up on your map if your having trouble finding it. It will be listed under HIPPOCRATES!
PROOF THAT WALMART BRIBES PAID TO LOCAL OFFICALS!!
Will Obama Hold Dem Investigation of Mexican Bribery Allegations Over Walmart CEO for Cooperation on Gun Control?
Published January 11, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Fox News Latino — New emails released by U.S. lawmakers show that Wal-Mart CEO Mike Duke learned in 2005 that executives in the company’s México unit handed out bribes to local officials — contradicting earlier statements that the company knew nothing about it.
Democratic Congressmen Elijah Cummings and Henry Waxman, who are investigating bribery charges at Wal-Mart’s Mexico division, released emails on Thursday that indicate that Duke and other senior Wal-Mart officials were informed multiple times starting in 2005 about bribes being made in the country. U.S. law forbids American companies from bribing foreign officials.
http://oneoldvet.com/?paged=2
FULL STORY:
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2013/01/11/lawmakers-release-documents-on-wal-mart-bribery/#ixzz2Hhj42x5H
WH: DENIES OPEN DISSCUSION with 2nd amendment group!
Second Amendment Foundation Requests Meeting with WH, Denied., by William Bigelow, 10 Jan 2013
What does the WHITE HOUSE say to the SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION when it requests to be part of the “OPEN” discussions with it’s almost 3/4 a million members? WH:,.. DENIED!
“WHITE HOUSE: “WE DON”T CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, OR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THIS “OPEN” DISCUSSION!” Your request is DENIED!
You are not invited, and you are denied your request!” WHITE HOUSE: “I want it clear to the American public that on behalf of the president, we’re reaching out to all parties on whatever side of this debate you fall” (Only if it is convenient for JOE BIDEN!)
A meeting scheduled for Thursday at the White House with Joe Biden will feature the NRA as well as the National Sports Shooting Foundation, but the Second Amendment Foundation, which was formed to guard gun owners’ legal rights, was not nvited, even though they asked to come. In their attempt to pretend they are listening to all sides, the White House had Biden meet with gun control groups and families of victims of gun violence on Wednesday while scheduling a meeting with video game developers for Friday, but Biden made it clear that Obama is going to act unilaterally in the end: “I want it clear to the American public that on behalf of the president, we’re reaching out to all parties on whatever side of this debate you fall”. But the president is going to act. There are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. Alan Gottlieb, founder of the Second Amendment Foundation, could see how Obama is already shutting down any opposition:
“It is kind of surprising that we were not invited. I am sure the NRA can represent gun owners, but for the administration, it would be better to have more players at the table. This administration seems more interested in demonizing gun rights and gun ownership than they do actually solving problems. It is unfortunate because it would be nice to solve some of the problems, like helping people with mental illness from getting their hands on a gun. The fig leaf of inviting the NRA while eschewing inviting other pro-gun groups won’t hide the fact that all of this is for show; when it’s over Obama will stick to his guns in order to take away ours.”
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/09/White-House-Pretends-It-Wants-A-Discussion-About-Guns
***************** RESOURCE OFFICER STOPPED GUNMAN!!!
Good Guys with Guns: Resource Officer Stopped Gunman!
Posted By: Jason, 01/10/13 09:27 PM
Sullivan County School Resource Office Carolyn Gudger was assigned to Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, Tennesee when 62-year-old Vietnam veteran Thomas Richard Cowan lost it. Cowan loaded his two handguns with a total of 13 rounds, chained his beloved German Sheperd to the fence and drove from the eight miles from his home to Sullivan Central High School. Shortly after 9a.m., as second period was starting, Cowan arrived on the scene and parked in a handicapped space. Cowan went to the front door and was standing in the waiting area between two sets of doors the school had for security – all people had to be buzzed in.
Junior Ashley Thacker walked to the front door and Cowan told her to go in ahead of him. At that moment the school principal, Melanie Riden walked out of the doors accompanied by Carolyn Grudger. Cowan drew his .380 caliber handgun and pointed the gun at Riden’s head.
“Code Red, Lockdown” blared over the school intercoms into every classroom at roughly the same time as Sullivan County police dispatch sent out the message:
Cower repeatedly said he only wanted one thing… to pull the fire alarms. What happens when fire alarms go off? Everyone leaves their classroom and enters the hallway. What more could a gunman want? Less than three minutes after Cowan drew his weapon on Principal Riden Deputies Sam Matney and Steve Williams were on the scene. The presence of the other officers shook Cowan and he began moving his gun from one officer to another. Despite all three officers demanding Cowan put down his gun, he refused. The deputies opened fire, striking Cowan multiple times and mortally wounding him. Wouldn’t you rather have someone on scene to immediately confront just such an attack?
I’ll let Camry Collins, a then 17-year-old student at Central High School tell you her thoughts:
“Gudger is the bomb-diggity. She goes out of her way to protect us.”
http://www.easybakegunclub.com/blog/2527/Good-Guys-with-Guns%3A-Resource-Officer-Stopped-Gunm.html
*******SHERIFF: NO GUN DISARMAMENT IN MY COUNTRY!!!
Kentucky Sheriff to Obama: No Gun Disarmament in My County, Friday, January 11, 2013
Jackson County Kentucky Sheriff Denny Peyman
Washington DC – Jackson County Kentucky Sheriff Denny Peyman is making it clear that no law that violates the Constitution will be upheld in his county.
This especially applies to new gun control edicts Obama & Co. are trying to push onto the American people.
Said Peyman: “My office will not comply with any federal action which violates the United States Constitution or the Kentucky Constitution which I swore to uphold.”
And far from worrying about repercussions for doing this, Peyman sees the gun control push as a sign of weakness that will crumble in the face of real opposition: “Just a few of us have to be willing to stand up to political opposition putting our people at risk. The other side will back down.”
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have found a patriot. And his name is Sheriff Denny Peyman.
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/kentucky-sheriff-to-obama-no-gun-disarmament-in-my-county/#ixzz2HhSmZhE2
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/kentucky-sheriff-to-obama-no-gun-disarmament-in-my-county/#axzz2HhSTJgRl
**********GRANDMA WITH GUN HALTS STORY ROBERY!!!
By Ben Waldron, Jan 10, 2013 2:42pm
Grandma With Gun Halts Store Robbery
ABC News
A gun-carrying grandmother in Milwaukee foiled an attempted robbery when she pulled a firearm on the suspect as he grabbed for her grocery store cash register.
Ernestine Aldana, 48, was behind the counter at the San Ignacio Market when a man in a dark hat pulled a knife on her and attempted to rob the store register, police said. Aldana pulled a handgun from behind the counter on the man, causing him to flee.
“All I remember is being scared,” Aldana told ABC News. “I believe if I would have had my finger on the trigger I would have shot, thank god it actually didn’t come to that, everybody thinks it’s easy to pick up a gun and shoot someone, it’s really not.”
Aldana said she was thinking about firing, but by then the suspect had already had turned to flee.
The remarkable incident was all caught on surveillance video released by the Milwaukee Police Department, which is searching for the man. Aldana described the man as Hispanic, about 35 and between 165-180 pounds with pock marks on his cheeks.
Aldana says her son, who took her to a firing range to train her to shoot, bought the gun for the store. The family never thought they would need for the firearm, but are now grateful. “If I didn’t have the gun there, he would have hurt me, once I had the gun there it changed everything,” said Aldana.
In December 2011, Gov. Scott Walker signed a bill passing the “Castle Doctrine” in the state, which protects home and business owners using a gun in self-defense on their property.
Aldana added that she is now skeptical of restrictions on gun ownership. “[The gun] saved my life,” she said.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/01/grandma-with-gun-halts-store-robbery/
New York: Cuom’s Gun Ban would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!
By Arlette Saenz, Jan 11, 2013 11:53am
Perry: Cuomo’s Gun Ban Would Be Unconstitutional!
Texas Gov. Rick Perry believes that New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s effort to ban assault weapons would be deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.
“I believe in the constitution. I don’t think you limit free speech nor do you limit the second amendment,” Perry told ABC affiliate KTRK’s Ted Oberg on Thursday. ”I think the Constitution is clear. Here we have the amendments to the constitution and we have the Bill of Rights. The tenth amendment says anything that’s not enumerated and not clearly laid out in the Constitution is reserved for the states and for the people. For me, just because I don’t like something doesn’t mean I will change the U.S .Constitution.”
“I would suggest to you they can try, but there will be a lawsuit that goes forward to the U.S. Supreme Court that finds those kinds of things unconstitutional,” Perry added.
Perry was referring to Cuomo’s intention to pursue “the toughest assault weapon ban in the nation.”
Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, whose father Vice President Joe Biden is leading the White House task force on curbing gun violence, suggested today Delaware might soon become the second state to announce a plan to seek a statewide assault weapons ban as early as next week.
“I know what we’re doing here in the state of Delaware. The governor and I are going to lead an effort starting early next week…an assault weapons ban for the state of Delaware, a high capacity ban, also universal background checks and a couple of other things that we’ll be announcing with the governor on Monday,” Beau Biden said on MSNBC friday.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/01/perry-cuomos-gun-ban-would-be-unconstitutional/
Gun Permit map
I WONDER HOW THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA COVERED BY THE MAP WOULD FEEL IF SOMEONE REVERSED IT? SHOWING ALL THE HOMES WHERE THE RESIDENT HAS NOT ACCUIRED A GUN PERMIT ALONG WITH THEIR NAMES ADDRESSES AND AGES, YES AGES. THEN THE LAWLESS WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE EASIEST TARGETS ARE. I AM SURE THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE THE ELDERLY FAMILY OF THE NEWSPAPERS PUBLISHERS AND REPORTERS. HOW WOULD THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT. ALL ANYONE NEEDS TO DO, IS USE THE PUBLIC PROPERTY TAX RECORDS TO FIND THAT INFORMATION. JUST AS THEY ABUSED, I MEAN USED, THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF GUN USERS. HOW WOULD THEY FEEL? SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT ISN’T IT?
Matching Donation
Robert emailed me a said there was a total of $708.00 donated. I matched that this evening. Thanks to everyone that donated, however Robert still has one chance to make the $1k match. I will extend the offer to the person that asked whose DAM as long as Robert can authenticate the person that made the post. Whoever posted who is DAM, please email Robert to authenticate you and make a contribution of $292.00, so that Robert gets the full matching contribution of $1k.
DAM
brb going to New York to buy
brb going to New York to buy gasoline and matches
Donation match
I just got home from work and seen that Robert sent me an email at 12:30 PM that there was $663.00 donated at that time. My matching contribution will be up to $1,000.00, ending today, 9 Jan. If you want your contribution to be matched the next few hours is your chance.
DAM
who is this and i’ll contribute?
who is dam?
Who is DAM
It is my initials to confirm that any posts made about matching contribution was from me. Anyone using these initials to impersonate me, I will request the site block you.
My name remains anonymous. To answer your question. I grew up in PA and entered the Army after high school as a combat engineer and later attended the officer candidate school to get my commission. I have severed a total of 34 months in Korea, 3 years in Germany, which two years was in Bosnia, and I have served 2 years in Iraq. One year as a military advisor to the Iraqi Army and one year as a Company Commander of a route clearance company that went out day and night to find IEDs and get rid of them. After 21 years of service, I decided to retire from the Army.
Until I seen Roberts map in the yahoo news, I never even knew of the website or Robert. I have no connection with him. I support his site, because I served to protect the constitutional rights of the American people, I’m very disappointed in the judicial system that protects the criminal rights, however forgot that the judicial system is to protect the good of the greater. Additional we already have gun laws, they just need enforcement, and we don’t need more gun laws. I believe the founding fathers meant the right to bare arms was that arms capable of defeating a government that no longer looks out for good of the greater, but support individuals. Certain information maybe public accessible info, however should not be publishable information. Finally the separation of Church and State was to prevent a government that was run by an individual religion. We all have various religious beliefs and everyone has the right to practice and display their religion. In short the recent laws in CA to take down Nativity Scenes are just another example of the failing judicial system. Even if you’re atheist, you still have to agree that the founding fathers believed in God, since they clearly stated in God we trust. This fact alone, means that public and Government facilities still have the right to display the word “In God we Trust” and to display anything that is interpreted to be a belief in God. By the way I’m agonistic, however I served to protect and defend the Constitution. My personal belief is secondary to the oath I took to protect and defend the Constitutional of the United States.
This is who DAM is.
DAM
By the way
When I was deployed as the route clearance company commander, as I stated I’m agnostic. I had one platoon prior to loading up for mission would say the “Our Father” prayer. I would say my own prayer along these lines, “I know I’m not a true believer and I don’t pray to you for my safety. I’m saying this prayer for the Soldiers here that are praying to you for their safety, if you are out there, please protect them, I’m the one sending them on this dangerous mission, look after them for the decisions I have made.”
DAM
That makes no sense.
DAM YOU for being ignorant and making up these stories. Tell your real name and who you really are.
I GUESS IGNORANCE IS BLISS for: “That makes no sense”
Well, here is another ignorant, done nothing with their life, mad at the world ignorant comment!
This “That makes no sense” person/s, response to “DAM” apparently has nothing to show for their own life,(I feel sorry for you!), so they write a short ignorant comment and not give there own story, nor of themselves that they demand of others!
By your statement, you have made it clear that you somehow feel you should have privileges and Privacy but not others!? You should have freedom of speech and privacy but not others!? You have the right to judge others!? Are you in a position above others!? You have rights of your name, but not “DAM”!?. Where is your personal story? So you demand of others that of which you yourself are not willing to give!? You show you have no courage! You clearly have not earned respect in life! I feel sorry that you show clearly your lack of life skills towards responsibility that might help others! Where is your courage!? Where are your loyalties!? Who follows you down the path you are leading?
If you were a leader in war, would people follow you, or would the people behind you, shoot you because they feel they can not trust you with their lives?
Instead of criticizing someone that has done something WITH there life, why don’t you make something WORTHWHILE of yours!?
Respect, Loyalty, Honor, Commitment, Courage, Leadership!
US NAVY RETIRED,(COMBAT DISABLED),PERSIAN GULF(94)
Well put
Thank you for your service and putting your life on the line. I notice you stated you are combat disable, if there is ever a day that you are down, remember that at a minimum your fellow service members appreciate everything you have done for our Country. Only those that served know my comments are simply not stories, it is my life. Those that did 20 years have a long list of service, not stories.
At the negative comment: Publishing my name and address will only lead to something bad. We all heard about the anti-abortion person that killed an abortion doctor. There is no difference here; an anti-gun person may use violence to promote their cause. That would be a bad decision as my state has castle law and outside of the home you don’t have to back down, you are allowed to stand your ground and defend yourself.
DAM
US Army Retired, Combat Vet, and a VFW member.
You’re right.. I respect none of that
I’m anti war and anti guns and anti violence.. Get a grip on reality pal, there’s no victor in a war. Everyone loses and until we realize this, we’re all in trouble. My life is way more successful than any of you characters, it beats drinkin uncle jesse’s moonshine on my porch 325 days a the year, and talkin bout war and guns.
Why
Are you the person that now will not write the check that your mouth wrote?
DAM
Mean Mouth !
DON’T You Let That Yankee Bad Mouth You Daddy DAM , I’m Here Now !
Your Son , MAD jr.
I Know You !
DAM is My Daddy !
MAD
Reply
I have been in many states and countries, with plenty of beautiful women. You just might be my son.
DAM
Donate
Robert emailed me a said there was a total of $708.00 donated. I matched that this evening. Thanks to everyone that donated, however Robert still has one chance to make the $1k match. I will extend the offer to the person that asked whose DAM as long as Robert can authenticate the person that made the post. Whoever posted who is DAM, please email Robert to authenticate you and make a contribution of $292.00, so that Robert gets the full matching contribution of $1k. I told you who I was, so please make a donation, even if it is just $25.
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Pathetic
Pathetic attempt by Bob Cox to profit off of the Newtown tragedy and the gun debate. I didn’t think he could sink any lower than he has in the past, and yet here it is. Shameful.
Not by Bob
This is my way to support the site, so that we can all voice our freedom of speech and to support the fact that we don’t need more gun laws but an enforcement of the current laws. I made the matching post without Roberts’s permission; he only cut and pasted my challenge. Why attack Robert for my action.
DAM
No different than the liberal
No different than the liberal attempt to profit off the same tragedy. Except their attempt to take away Constitutional rights.
Gently fiendish idea
Obama should give up his armed security. After all:
If it saves just one child from a stray bullet ,,,,,,,,
NOT COOL, AND COMPLEATLY STUPID COMMENT!!
Obama is the president of the United States!
He is the United States Leader! We don’t need ignorant comments like yours here or anyplace else!
I am pro Gun, and the idea of removing security and armed guards from Obama or his family is not just ignorant it is irresponsible, and Stupid!
A lot of people have sworn oaths to the position of the presidency to protect whoever is holding that position. Many that are reading this as well as throughout this country: Military, FBI, CIA, Homeland security, Border Patrol, Etc. Take offense to your comment!!! Believe me No child is in danger around, from, or with the people that surround and protect the president or his family!
But according to the liberals
But according to the liberals guns can fire themselves at random! Its a dangerous tool to have around anyone, let alone the leader of the free world
We can’t blame people for what guns willingly do themselves.
Does anybody know if there
Does anybody know if there are any statistics regarding how many people congress estimates they will have to kill to get the guns from the people on the list? can that information be FOIA’d. Also I googled U.N. peace keeper and I was wondering if those guys in the blue helmets with machine guns are the ones who will be taking the guns?
How governments seize guns
The (can’t use the word it will end the thread) did it by surrounding neighborhoods one at a time w the army then going in and searching every nook and cranny and soft spot in the garden.
It was very successful.
Gun seizure statistics
Not many.
Read up on how the Nazis did it. It was classic and still the method of choice for protecting the elite.
The Nazis simply surrounded small areas w the national army. They then went in and searched every house. Why no resistance? Well, a man may be willing to say “When you pry it from my cold dead hand”. The government was saying “We will pry it from the cold dead pile of your friends and family”.
Of course, all that unfortunate collateral damage as they went in w howitzers blazing, was truly terrible and NOT THEIR FAULT.
Correction
Need to add: The Nazis never went in w howitzers blazing. Nobody resisted them.
You cant make this stuff up! Thoughts of a ANTI Gun Journalist,.
Make guns smart, By Jeremy Shane, Special to CNN
updated 10:36 AM EST, Wed January 9, 2013.
You cant make this crap up!
This is one reporter that has lost his sense of reality, watched way to many Sci-fi movies as a kid, and apparently without proper adult perspective or maybe with no adult supervision!?! I am more concerned about his state of mind than anything else right now! I hope he doesn’t have a gun! If he does, I think he needs adult supervision pretty fast!!!
“Pull the trigger and they discharge bullets mindlessly, regardless of who is doing the aiming or where they are aimed. Guns should “know” not to fire in schools, churches, hospitals or malls. They should sense when they are being aimed at a child, or at a person when no other guns are nearby.”
( Wow, Really? Guns shoot bullets with a trigger, towards the direction the gun is pointed, and if a deranged criminal points it? BAD GUN! No going of if some other lunatic showed up first at the GUN FREE ZONE FIRST! Stop that!)
“Finally, guns should be designed to broadcast their location when they are loaded. Police could see if high-powered assault weapons are entering or getting close to a public place. Gun owners, too, could choose to broadcast their guns’ locations publicly to increase deterrent effect.” (Maybe if the police just opened their eyes with their minds this idea will be more effective? Just a suggestion. How strong is the stuff your smoking?) “Open-sourcing code is not foolproof, but it will build a community of lawful gun owners and code writers who value safety and Second Amendment rights. Enabling two-way communication between guns and their original makers will help guns to be tracked beyond the initial sale, putting greater long-term responsibility on gun makers.” (Wow, another great idea for all 200 million law breaking criminal and gun owning: Judges, Lawyers, Police, Federal agents, Border patrol, District attorneys, investigators, guards, people with orders of protection, anyone serving or served in the military, CCW and OCW licenses with training, Half of all Grandparents, about 1/3 of Parents,.. You pretty much you covered 75% of the population! Good thing your here to protect us! How was COMIC-CON this year? Did you wear your Spock ears?
“In the private sector, rewards can be offered for specific technological achievements, such as what the X Prize Foundation has been doing. Gun makers, gun retailers, even the National Rifle Association could underwrite a similar prize.”(Of course your right! I am positive that the three the above mentioned organizations, and the people that work for or support them, as well as anyone that believes in THE BILL OF RIGHTS, OR THE FIRST, SECOND, or TENTH AMENDMENTS will be more than willing to go along with this great idea! Lets see,..That’s around 100 Million people + around another 150 million, give or take a few million that just might even “HOLD THESE TRUTHS TO BE SELF EVIDENT”, might be convinced that you have a great idea and will show up even though they don’t fully understand.)
“Gun software could be phased in, starting with the most lethal assault rifles. Today’s guns are componentized,(is this a word?), creating possibilities for a vibrant aftermarket, with add-ons tested and certified by a consortium of gun makers or responsible gun owners.”( Wow, Such good advice,.. I’m positive because of your thoughts, The next mentally unstable CRIMINAL and FELON, who currently DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT LAWS, will Install and verify the technology is properly working before and when they show up at the next GUN FREE ZONE to kill UNARMED and DEFENSELESS people! They probable will even call the police ahead of time to make sure everything is working properly, and ask for a escort and a parade to inform JOURNAL NEWS beforehand so they can interview him and take pictures! Headline will read: HERO Stopped by JOURNAL NEWS!)
-“Technology cannot end depravity or violence, but it can limit the evil a person can inflict on others.”
(Apparently ‘Technology is a conscious and can influence peoples will? This is why it is dangerous for kids to watch sci-fi, without parents supervision to be able to instill some common sense and reality,(that this reporter seems to be lacking in!)
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/opinion/shane-smarter-guns/index.html?iid=article_sidebar
Technology
WHAT are you smoking? And where can I get some.
Gawker publishes list of NYC gun owners
This is on Breitbart: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/01/08/Gawker-Posts-Full-List-of-NYC-Gun-Owners
By the way, Representative Serrano (D-NY) has introduced a bill in the house that would repeal term limits on the president (the 22nd amendment to the constitution). I believe the bill number is H.J. 15. It’s easy to find on PopVox.com
It Was Just a Matter of Time before this ————
Acording to “FOX” News in The Morning , A New Publication in N.Y.C. Called The “Gawker” is Publishigh The Names , Addresses , and All The Rest of the info of All Gun owners in The “Big Apricot” , I Mean Apple , It’s Far Reaching .
All NYC , Whoa Jack !
Oh , and With a New Defense Secretary Who is a “Dove” , and Who “Hates” Israel , The Big Supreme “O” ‘s Push For NO Civilian Guns ,…..All Who Voted For “King Obama” Will Be Safe in Their Homes , Just Watch Your Mouth , and What YOU Say , Thanks For Trusting That Commie ……………………ONE MORE TIME , AND NO FEAR OF RE-ELECTION !
You ALL Deserve The Outcome , And TRY To Get Your Rights Back When Gone !
The CAP’N Says :
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“Bullies” by Ben Shapiro , and See What The Militant LEFT has in Store for us , Ha !
OH Yeah , That List is From The NYPD , and is “Complete ” with Celebs Too .
Kudos!
Mr Cox – you are the man! Great response to cowardly agenda-driven bullies. Keep up the great work. Needless to say, The Journal will never see another penny from me.
Thank you brother!
I’ve never wanted to stand up and cheer so much after reading an article. This is the only way to fight against these people. They do not understand the logic of an argument. Let them sit and think about the logic of their kind of attacks turned back on them. They want to identify law abiding citizens who want to protect themselves? Then we’ll identify those people too. They are not guilty of anything? Neither are the gun owners.
I can’t help but laugh at the thought of how scared these idiots are now.
The republican party needs to learn this lesson. This is the only way to answer a bully. Punch right back.
you are a pathetic loser.
I guess you must feel like a big man by putting peoples families in harms way. This is why we need stricter gun laws. This way mental patients like you could never get their hands on them. You are a pathetic loser.
Wrong place
Ummm … I think you meant to direct your comment to the “big men and women” at the Journal News. They’re the ones who put 33,000 law-abiding families at risk.
And yet it seems the only
And yet it seems the only ones getting threatened are the reporters. Curious.
not so fast
I guess that you’ve haven’t seen the prison guard story and inmate threats have you?
I’d be interested to hear how
I’d be interested to hear how those inmates were able to search for the guards on the UNSEARCHABLE Journal News map containing thousands upon thousands of pins.
Maybe there is an element of deceit to someone’s (either the guards’, the inmates’, or the Sheriff’s) claim.
Oh sorry, I was using my common sense.
Let’s all go back to being fired up. Stupid logic. Really gets in the way of a good time bashing session.
Before you break your arm patting yourself on the back…
take a look at all the direction on this thread about FINDING an address when you have a name (which the inmates have, don’t you think?) and when the inmates have an address, well let’s see, they can then LOOK UP THE GUARDS on the map.
Duh.
Following that “logic”, if
Following that “logic”, if they have a name and an address, why on earth would they go to the gun map? To confirm that the guards have permits for handguns?
Duh.
And following your “logic” …
So what’s the point of putting both names and addresses on the Journal News map then?
The map is titled, “Where are the gun permits in your neighborhood?”
Well, if the map is designed to tell you WHERE the gun permits in your neighborhood can be found, why would you need the permit holders’ names too? You already know there’s a gun permit for the bungalow next door and the two-story across the street — why would you need to know that the people who live there are named Smith and Jones?
Speaking of “common sense”
Y’know, we could just as easily accuse the Journal News of inventing the so-called “threatening calls and e-mails” they whined about to the New York Times. I mean, it’s not as if any JN employee has actually been harmed or even confronted in person by one of these gun-wielding boogeymen.
And there’s this from the Times: “Many of the threats, Ms. [publisher Janet] Hasson said, were coming from across the country, and not from the paper’s own community.” Gosh, if Janet knows enough about these scary callers/e-mailers to determine where they’re coming from, you’d think the police would have been able to identify the originator of at least one threatening message by now.
Then again, we have to consider what the Nervous Nellies at the Journal News consider a threat. Let’s see … Rockland editor Caryn McBride filed at least two reports with the Clarksville Police Department because an e-mail writer wondered — drum roll, please! — “what McBride would get in her mail now.” But police said the e-mail “did not constitute an offense” or contain an actual threat. D’oh!
Then there was Dwight Worley, who told the Times that he found broken glass outside his home. Gee, I’m sure a lot of people in the New York area have found broken glass outside their homes in the past week or so, assuming Dwight’s ever existed outside his own mind.
The bottom line is that the cops haven’t made a single arrest or even confirmed the existence of a single legitimate threat leveled against a Journal News employee, yet the newspaper has hired armed guards and begun putting its staffers up in hotels anyway.
Words like “overreaction” and “drama queens” spring to mind — logically speaking, of course.
The truth is …
“And yet it seems the only ones getting threatened are the reporters.”
Not really … it’s just that incidents involving reporters are the only kind that one-sided media like the New York Times want to report on.
And ????
The guy who starts it is the one who should cower.
This is good.
England hmade self defense illegal. Ten years later their violent crime rate is FIVE TIMES America’s and four time France.
Gun Law Debate
Not much of a debate, don’t like the truth, that we already have gun laws; we just need the judicial branch to enforce them. If you don’t like the map then help change that law. That way JN will have to take down their map also. This is the point, many wrongs will lead to change.
Gun Law Debate
Let’s have a gun law debate. A person that robed two White Castle fast food restaurants with a water pistol gets 12 years. A person that fired an assault weapon at 2 police officers gets 4 years. So what is to debate about more gun laws, the debate should be about the liberals that destroyed the judicial branch that protects criminals. The current judicial branch supports the right of the individual and not the good of the greater. Maybe the gunman that got only 4 years will take out a bunch of liberals when he gets out for good behavior in 3 years. We don’t need more gun laws, we need the judicial branch to return to the good of the greater and enforce the current laws.
Dwight Worley is a black man
He’s the guy who submitted the FOIL request to get the gun owners info.
I wonder if this tool realizes the irony, because it is blacks who suffer immensely from gun crimes, and it is blacks who would benefit the most from gun laws that empower citizens to protect themselves.
These liberal pukes, always getting the black man to do their bidding, be their guinea pigs. I’d laugh, but it’s sad.
Security for me, but not for thee!
Brace yourselves for a real shocker!
Security guards have now been posted outside the homes of Journal News president Janet Hasson and executive editor Cynthia Lambert (“CynDee Royle”).
http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/07/armed-and-dangerous-update-guards-also-posted-at-executive-editors-homes-2/
Also …
Forgot to mention that some police officers are urging current and retired cops not to accept any jobs guarding the “suits” at the Journal News because the newspaper published the addresses of law enforcement personnel.
Can somebody that knows google map mashups
Combine, the Papers’ Gun Map List with those that contributed $$$ to Pre$ Obama’$ 2008 &/or 2012 Campaign’$ including the Voter reg info?
Loser
Can someone check the IQ of this moron. This little boy needs a gun to feel like a man. Probably been beat up by girls his entire life.
Yawn
You can always tell you’ve won the debate when your opponent starts attacking the messenger instead of the message.
UTAH TOWN RESOLUTION: A GUN IN EVERY HOUSE!!!
A gun in every household? Utah town drafting a resolution
SPRING CITY, Sanpete County — Officials in Spring City are considering a resolution recommending that all households in this rural town of roughly 1,000 people own a gun and participate in gun training.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865570152/A-gun-in-every-household-Utah-town-drafting-a-resolution.html
Mandatory guns
Some years ago (30?) some town made gun ownership mandatory. I don’t think they enforced it, but crime went down and the MSM did not report that fact.
Anyone remember the name of that town so we can check and see the long term results?
BANK OF AMERICA FREEZES GUN MFG. ACCOUNT!!!
Bank of America has reportedly frozen the account of gun manufacturer American Spirit Arms, according to its owner, Joe Sirochman.
In a Facebook post dated December 29, Sirochman wrote the following:
“My name is Joe Sirochman owner of American Spirit Arms…our Web site orders have jumped 500 percent causing our Web site e-commerce processing larger deposits to Bank of America. So they decided to hold the deposits for further review.
“After countless hours on the phone with Bank of America, I finally got a manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for further review — her exact words were — ‘We believe you should not be selling guns and parts on the Internet.’”(emphasis added)Sirochman also wrote that he told the bank manager that “they have no right to make up their own new rules and regs” and that “[American Spirit is a] firearms manufacturer with all the proper licensing.”He also noted that he has been doing business with Bank of America for over 10 years, but will now be looking for a new bank.
According to Unlawful News, this isn’t the first time Bank of America has targeted a customer involved in the firearms industry.McMillan Group International was reportedly told that its business was no longer welcome after the company started manufacturing firearms – even after 12 years of doing business with the bank.
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/bank-america-freezes-gun-manufacturers-account-company-owner-claims
Bank of America: FREEZES funds ILLEGALLY!!!
American Spirit Arms the Most Recent Victim of Bank of America Anti-Gun Discrimination.
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/american-spirit-arms-the-most-recent-victim-of-bank-of-america-anti-gun-discrimination/#ixzz2HNUZEJ4Q
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/american-spirit-arms-the-most-recent-victim-of-bank-of-america-anti-gun-discrimination/#axzz2HNTaz0r
CAP”N BUBBA’S REPLY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Bank of America , One of The Big Thieving Banks of The 2008 Bailout Fiasco Should Have had it’s Bank officials Placed in Prison for Money Laundering , and Fraud for it’s Banking practices That caused the Government to bail it out just to keep OUR Fragile Economy in Check , along with All The Other “Felon” Banks of a few Years ago !
Now The Bank Should be treated the SAME as it Deserves to be , as a Risky Venture , With it’s Depositors Made aware of it’s Deceptive , and Devious Ways of Dealing with “Investing” Major Customers !
Shut Them Down !
Bad Advertising is Free !
Thank You , Cap’n Bubba , Terrebone Parish , LA.
Let Obama Bail Them out From a Chinese Bank !
Reporter GRIFFJANKENS: Janet Hasson has NO COMMENT!?!?
Gun hypocrisy at Journal News: HILARISLY NOT FUNNY!
After outing and endangering both gun owners and non-owners, Journal News publisher hides behind armed guards and 25 percent of paper’s gun map appear to be incorrect,..
Date Jan 7, 2013
VIDEO:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2080192997001/gun-hypocrisy-at-journal-news/?playlist_id=903226511001
Circulation losses at the Journal News
The Journal News’ circulation was spiraling downhill even before it published the gun owners list.
Even the New York Times admits as much:
“The Journal News, like many newspapers nationwide, has had sharp declines in circulation. Its total circulation from Monday through Friday fell from 111,536 in September 2007 to 68,850 in September 2012.”
Does anyone seriously think the JN’s latest move will lead to more subscriptions and advertising?
JUDGE JEANINE PIRRO: Is the outing of gun owners ‘right’?
REACTION from COUNTY OFFICIALS to JOURNAL NEWS requests
Date Jan 7, 2013
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2080038031001/is-the-outing-of-gun-owners-right/?playlist_id=903226511001
Judge JEANINE PIRRO “SLAMS” Journal News!!!
Date Jan 6, 2013
VIDEO:
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html
READ:
http://www.examiner.com/article/pirro-vs-journal-news-judge-jeanine-pirr…
This keeps getting better …
Apparently the Journal News list is not only controversial, but highly inaccurate, says the Rockland County Times.
According to Rockland County Clerk Paul Piperato, “I’d figure about 25 percent of the addresses are not accurate.”
Says the Times: “Rockland residents have reported that the information on the gun map is sometimes more than 20 years outdated.”
Read all about it:
http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/04/fail-of-the-day-twenty-five-percent-of-the-journal-news-rockland-county-gun-map-not-accurate/
This will make your day! NYT
This will make your day! NYT idiots try to defend the JN. Read the whole article.
Excerpt:
.WHITE PLAINS — Local newspapers across the country look for stories that will bring them national attention, but The Journal News, a daily nestled in a wooded office park in a suburb north of New York, may have gotten more than it bargained for.
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“As journalists, we are prepared for criticism,” Ms. Hasson said, as she sat in her meticulously tended office and described the ways her 225 employees have been harassed since the article was published. “But in the U.S., journalists should not be threatened.” She has paid for staff members who do not feel safe in their homes to stay at hotels, offered guards to walk employees to their cars, encouraged employees to change their home telephone numbers and has been coordinating with the local police.
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Read the rest. Their timeline for publishing the article is discussed. It’s a hoot.
Bad link
Couldn’t get your link to work, so here is the one I found. Article has some of the same words, but I can’t find the timeline you refer to.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/07/nyregion/after-pinpointing-gun-owners-journal-news-is-a-target.html?pagewanted=all
I can’t help wondering
Gosh, will Janet Hasson also pick up the tab for hotel rooms if any of the 44,000 local gun owners no longer feel safe in their homes?
can’t help wondering about this either
But, let’s not forget about the people who don’t have guns in those neighborhoods – they need to be protected too! Can you imagine? That map screams this to criminals:
“Hey bad guys, these guys here are the ones you can rob, cause they have no guns. But first, rob the guys with the guns, when they aren’t home, of course, so you can steal the guns to use on the folks who have no guns!”
Is Janet Hasson going to protect the none gun owners too??
Get active! Call, Email,, MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD!!!
The Second Amendment is a “RIGHT” (not a privilege) “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the RIGHT of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”– U.S. Amendment II.
The only way YOU can loose this right is if YOU let the Government take it away!!
If You See something that YOU Don’t like and it bothers you, SAY SOMETHING, and STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!
Conceal carry, Open Carry, PRIVACY! YOUR RIGHTS are just that,… YOUR RIGHTS!!! Don’t give them away!!! If YOU Don’t Like what YOU think might happen, Change That concern To POWER, AND MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
GET ACTIVE! You can make a difference, Make your voice heard in YOUR STATE, Through Your Local media, and in Washington D.C.!!!
Good work… but you need to go deeper
The work you have done excellent but you need to include all public records including mortgages, criminal background specifics, also a listing of spouses, children, parents and siblings. ANYTHING that can be found as a public record must find its way onto your map.
They want to pry and publish…. Please don’t pull punches and list everything you can.
that’s complete BS and way
that’s complete BS and way overboard. You’re sick.
No it’s not
Why is it complete B.S.?
The Journal News defends its decision to publish the names and addresses of law-abiding citizens by saying the information was “legally obtained” and “publicly available,” etc.
Well, what makes that sort of public information OK to publish, but other kinds of public information — particularly when it pertains to JN staffers — off limits?
Not worthy of a response.
Not worthy of a response.
From : Cap’n Bubba , You Are A Piece O’ Work ,Deep Thinker !
I Really Mean it , I Have Been Reading , and Sometimes Throwing in My $.02 cents , But YOU Have Really Crossed The Line !
You Belong out on a Ledge Somewhere .
I Made Reference to This awhile back , ….That Some People With Nothing to do Just Get on a “Bandwagon” after an event has happened , and Then Escalate The Problem , it Becomes a “Mob Mentality” , Especially being Anonymous , it Can only get Out of Control .
Being fair , It has been A lot of Fun , and I have really enjoyed The Whole Episode , But The Point has been made , and The “Proof” is in The Reporting on this “Faux” Gossip Tribune(J.N.) of a Paper , When The National News has finished with a topic , They Move On as NOT To “Kill it To Death” , “Fox” , “NBC”, and Even “CNN” Has Turned Down The Heat on Gun Owners , and “Rednecks” Like ME , and I Think That’s Great !
Thanks Bob Cox , For All The Truth in Reporting on Your Side ,You Sir Are a True Fearless Patriot , and I Hope You Live For 10,000 Years , God Bless You , and Yours .
Cap’n Bubba’s Gator Guides , Terrebone Parish , LA.
Bubba St.Jaques-Belanger , Prop.
And Stop By ! ANYTIME !………………..Semper Fi , Bob !
Never Forget What Will Happen!
“I saw a movie once where only the police and military had guns…”
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735151_554826574546589_415961955_n.jpg
HAVE WE NOT LEARNED YET?!?
HAVE WE FORGOTTEN OUR PAST AND DOOMED OURSELVES TO REPEAT IT?!?
Aristotle’s words we need to revisit from 3500 years ago!,…
“Tyrants preserve themselves by sowing fear and mistrust among the citizens by means of spies, by distracting them with foreign wars, by eliminating men of spirit who might lead a revolution, by humbling the people, and making them incapable of decisive action…
Tyrants preserve themselves by eliminating men of spirit who might lead a revolution, by humbling the people, and making them incapable of decisive action… .”
Could this be why over a dozen of the US’s highest military officers have been hounded from service in recent months? Is it why this financial crises has dragged on and on … to keep us humble and incapable of decisive action?
CONCURRENT MAJORITY, By: John C. Calhoun
Concurrent majority
American politician John C. Calhoun developed the theory of the concurrent majority to deal with the tyranny of the majority. It states that great decisions are not merely a matter of numerical majorities but require agreement or acceptance by the major interest in society, each of which had the power to block federal laws that it feared would seriously infringe on their rights.
That is, it is illegitimate for a temporary coalition that had a majority to gang up on and hurt a significant minority. The doctrine is one of limitations on democracy to prevent the tyranny.
Tyrannical Government!?! If the shoe fits,…
Gun control and the disarming of law-abiding citizens should never be a solution to reducing crime and serves as a recipe for tyranny. Criminals rarely obtain firearms legally, and gun-free zones act as safe havens for criminals and crazies alike, making us all less safe and potential victims.
Only an armed civilian population can properly defend themselves and resist a tyrannical government. When the Nazis seized power in Germany in 1933, they immediately began massive search and seizures of firearms to further neutralize their political opponents. The Gestapo later established a system of central registration of persons obtaining firearms. Hitler’s gun control and disarming of the population almost completely guaranteed that firearms were in the possession of Nazi supporters and sympathizers and made any kind of armed resistance inside Germany next to impossible. Hitler said, “The most foolish mistake we would possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquers who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing.” The Second Amendment protects the gun rights of individuals and is about preventing tyranny. Gun control and the disarming of the population threatens a nation’s very survival.
Wasnt this guy around when the 2nd admendment was written?!
“A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” — George Washington
I wonder if George Washington Knew this Guy?!
“The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.” — Henry St. George Tucker, in Blackstone’ss 1768 Commentaries on the Laws of England
Title 10, Section 311 (a), UNITED STATES CODE
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the
security of a free State, the right of the people to
keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
— U.S. Constitution, Amendment II
“The militia of the United States consists of
all able bodied males at least 17 years of age and
. . . under 45 years of age who are . . . citizens of
the United States.” — Title 10, Section 311(a),
UNITED STATES CODE
re title 10
So I guess All US MALES age 17 to 44 who are not confined to a wheel chair, have a prosthetic limb, etc should be issued guns?
Washington Misquote and out of context
The above quote posted by Anonymous is often attributed to Washington. It is partially correct but this is the actual quote.
“A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies.” G. Washington.
Quote from William Burroughs,.. 1914
“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.” — William Burroughs (b. 1914) author, “The War Universe”
FBI reports: Hammers and Clubs Kill More Than Guns?
According to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.
This is an interesting fact, particularly amid the Democrats’ feverish push to ban many different rifles, ostensibly to keep us safe of course.
However, it appears the zeal of Sens. like Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Joe Manchin (D-WV) is misdirected. For in looking at the FBI numbers from 2005 to 2011, the number of murders by hammers and clubs consistently exceeds the number of murders committed with a rifle.
Think about it: In 2005, the number of murders committed with a rifle was 445, while the number of murders committed with hammers and clubs was 605. In 2006, the number of murders committed with a rifle was 438, while the number of murders committed with hammers and clubs was 618.
And so the list goes, with the actual numbers changing somewhat from year to year, yet the fact that more people are killed with blunt objects each year remains constant.
For example, in 2011, there was 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs.
While the FBI makes is clear that some of the “murder by rifle” numbers could be adjusted up slightly, when you take into account murders with non-categorized types of guns, it does not change the fact that their annual reports consistently show more lives are taken each year with these blunt objects than are taken with Feinstein’s dreaded rifle.
Another interesting fact: According to the FBI, nearly twice as many people are killed by hands and fists each year than are killed by murderers who use rifles.
The bottom line: A rifle ban is as illogical as it is unconstitutional. We face far greater danger from individuals armed with carpenters’ tools and a caveman’s stick.
And it seems fairly obvious that if more people had a gun, less people would be inclined to try to hit them in the head with a hammer.
http://www.hear-us-now.com/2013/01/according-to-fbi-annual-crime.html
AMERICANS ARE VOTING WITH THEIR $$$$.$$ ON GUNS!
In short, Americans have weighed in on the gun debate and the winners are the right to keep and bear arms and the duty of self-defense.
No matter where you look, the news is the same–guns are flying off the shelves, bulk ammo can’t be found, and applications for concealed permits are going up, up, up!
The bottom line: gun control politicians ensconced behind the wall of protection afforded them by armed guard upon armed guard are completely out of touch with the average American father who understands it’s his duty to protect his family from danger; they can’t relate to the single mom who sleeps with a .38 Special close at hand because she must protect her kids in the night; and they have nothing in common with the elderly couple whose home is no longer in the good part of town, and who fall asleep every night wondering if the gun shots they hear are getting closer.
But Americans understand. And right now, they’re expressing their views on such things by buying guns and ammo, then meeting the legal requirements for concealed carry in their respective states.
But Americans understand. And right now, they’re expressing their views on such things by buying guns and ammo, then meeting the legal requirements for concealed carry in their respective states.
“IF WE ARE TO BE FREE,WE MUST BE ARMED!”
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/06/Americans-Are-Voting-With-Their-Wallets-On-Guns-Ammo-and-Concealed-Carry
SHERIFF BOYCOTTS BUISNESS WITH GUN BAN! (Georgia)
WSB-TV
Sheriff Scott Berry:
“They made the decision NOT to sell a weapon like this to the general public.
I’ve made the decision not to buy anything else from Dana Safety Supply,” Oconee County Sheriff Scott Berry said of a gun supplier’s partial ban on semi-automatic and self-loading rifles.”
The move comes on the heels of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut where a gunman used a semi-automatic rifle to kill students and teachers last month.
Berry argued, “The gun didn’t cause a problem at Sandy Hook. A person did.”
Furthermore, Berry said it doesn’t make sense that the company will sell a lever action rifle to the public but not a self-loading rifle, when both can kill.
“I believe that law abiding citizens have the right to choose firearms, just like licensed drivers have the right to choose what kind of car they drive,” Berry said.
He said he’s received about 200 emails in support of his decision.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/sheriff-boycotts-business-gun-ban/nTmwn/
Here’s one of those “gun nuts” the JN fears
A woman who tried to hide herself and her 9-year-old twins from a burglar nevertheless found herself face to face with the thug when he broke into her attic.
Fortunately, she had more than her bare hands for protection. The mother emptied her .38 revolver on him, hitting him five times. The man somehow survived, but his burglary-and-whatever-else-he-had-in-mind spree ended immediately.
High five, Mom!
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-intruder/nTm7s/
Pistol packin’ Judge JEANINE PIRRO “SLAMS” Journal News!!!
VIDEO!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html
READ:
http://www.examiner.com/article/pirro-vs-journal-news-judge-jeanine-pirro-is-an-outed-gun-owner
Must see.
Judge Jeanine calls
Must see.
Judge Jeanine calls out the Journal News.
Great segment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yw3sZ_reY8&feature=em-uploademail
EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take that, cowardly JN employees hiding on this board and behind the armed guards in your houses.
You go, girl.
Pathetic loser
I’d love to meet you in a dark alley. See how tough you and all these gun loving losers are. This is why we need stricter gun laws. All the people that own guns have major mental issues.
Judge Jenine tore the JN a
Judge Jenine tore the JN a new one on her show last night. She was listed on the map. and is furious. Wish I had a link to the show.
Judge Jeanine calls out ‘The Journal News’!!! VIDEO!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/justice-jeanine/index.html
Victim in Pasco hate crime had gun, decided not to use it!
Quinnell approached from behind as they walked into the store. He asked Mohammed if he was Muslim or from the Middle East. Mohammed said no, Quinnell then shot him at close range with a gas-propelled pellet gun while saying “n—– with a white girl!
Cameron Mohammed isn’t Muslim or Middle Eastern. He was born and raised in Tampa. Raised Catholic. He has had a concealed weapons permit for five years.
Quinnell:
*arrested 10 times in Florida since 2006.
*arrests involved battery, and violent threats.
* one arrest: threatened to kill deputies.
* 2x for domestic battery.
* 2x violating domestic violence injunctions.
*When arrested, Quinnell was on felony probation for battery on a person aged 65 or older.
As a felon, Quinnell was banned from carrying firearms. That’s why, he told deputies Thursday night, he carried the PELLET GUN instead.
LUTZ — Cameron Mohammed stood there in the Walmart parking lot, blood spouting from his head and his neck, his hand on his gun, while he watched the man who had just shot him dash into the night.
The opportunities for self defense or vengeance were plenty. He could have pulled out the .45-caliber Taurus pistol right then and put a bullet in his assailant. He could have done so when Daniel Quinnell craned his gun at point-blank range and squeezed the trigger for the first of 20 times. Or even before the attack, when deputies say Quinnell approached Mohammed and his girlfriend from behind, yelling racial epithets. Any of those instances would have been defensible in court.
But Mohammed, 24, kept his gun in the holster. Because his attacker used a pellet gun. Mohammed’s was real.
“I couldn’t blow this guy away for something he could change later in life. I’m not going to decide this man’s fate.”
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/article1268955.ece
Current FEDERAL law on AIR/ B-B guns, they are NOT toys!!
Cameron Mohammed is a good man!!! I can only pray, and ask God to bring him through this.
Certain Evanix air pistols can fire a 21 grain pellet at 1000 feet per second or close to that of a 22 caliber short round.
That is almost exactly at the muzzle velocity of the older snub nose 38 special revolvers that many police detectives carried for years. They did not carry them to wound someone!
The Federal Standards 595a of 1987 clearly states that TOYS,that look like real weapons, MUST be marked with a blaze orange muzzle plug so as not to be mistaken for a lethal weapon.
The Federal government DOES NOT require this orange marker on:
Traditional B-B, paint-ball, or pellet-firing air guns that expel a projectile through the force of compressed air, compressed gas or mechanical spring action, or any combination thereof, as described in American Society for Testing and Materials standard F 589–85, Standard Consumer Safety Specification for Non-Powder Guns, June 28, 1985.
The reason the Fed. Government do not require the orange muzzle marking on those weapons is because these weapons should be considered lethal and a police officer, or anyone trained properly, will respond as they should against any other weapon.
The Federal government, since 1987, has determined which “guns” are lethal and which ones are not. This was done to protect innocent individuals, playing with a toy gun, so they are not mistaken for someone that is armed. If you want to go out and display a pellet gun, you had better assume that people will consider it a lethal weapon, and react accordingly.
Bull—-
What happens when someone carries a real gun with an orange tip? Orange tips dont mean shit unless it is in the hands of a five year old. If someone points a gun at you from 30 feet away with an orange barrel, you dont have anyway to know if it is real or not until you get shot.
Yep
Orange foam earplug stuffed in the barrel of a real gun which is painted orange at the tip of the outer barrel looks like a toy with an orange plug. If you rely on the sight of an orange barrel to indicate whether a gun is a toy or not a toy, you are a fool. Cops know this, unless it is a kid, you are going to get shot by a cop if you point any gun at them. Politicians are idiots and make laws with no vision of unintended consequences.
If I am a criminal, I’ll use any advantage I can including carrying an orange barreled gun
NO JOKE!,.. Obama TO RUN FOR THIRD TERM?!?
Democrats Introduce Bill ‘HJ RES 15′ To Give Obama A Third Term
Published January 3, 2013
H.J.Res.15 – Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-joint-resolution/15/text
“Bloomberg uncertain about paper’s gun map!” (Dylan Byers)
By DYLAN BYERS |
1/4/13 12:08 PM EST
New York City Mayor and gun-control advocate Michael Bloomberg today voiced uncertainty about a local newspaper’s decision to publish the names and addresses of area residents with gun permits.
“It is public information, the public owns that data,” Bloomberg said in an interview with WOR 710. “On the other hand, I’m not so sure I think we should go and publish everybody’s tax returns… or everybody’s psychiatric records.”
“Even America’s most anti-gun mayor isn’t sure the ‘Journal News’ made the right decision.”
“My instincts would be no, but I can’t give you a good argument,” he said when asked if it was the right thing to do.
“Also, you’re dealing there with the First Amendment,” he added. “You could make the same case with the Pentagon Papers, where you could have put the country or individual peoples at risk, or agents overseas — WikiLeaks, the same thing.”
Bloomberg also noted that when New York City was asked to share the names and addresses of gun permit owners years ago, “We said ‘No.'”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/01/bloomberg-uncertain-about-papers-gun-map-153370.html#.UOj5mFRuaUU.twitter
Thanks JN, Liberals???
They are shutting down because they realized what they started. It is time that our laws change. Thanks to JN they have sparked the change. The freedom of speech is limited. The right to bear arms is for an individual to own a weapon capable of defeating a government, and the separation of church and state still allows people the right to speech and display their religion. The founding fathers stated “In God we Trust.” I have my own religious belief, I will never complain about another person religious belief and it does not offend me. They have the same right that I do.
We are about to witness a total change in our laws, where were you when it happened?
I didn’t believe I would see it in my lifetime
I didn’t believe I would see it in my lifetime that the US government would fall. However with all the recent actions by the government that risk has now risen. 1st there are many articles out there over the issue between the 1st amendment and the 2nd amendment. Any law passed to take away arms from people will result in a civil war. Only a law that grandfather in current owners will prevent an all out civil war. 2nd the government went broke on 31 Dec 2012. They have use extraordinary measures to prevent a default thru accounting tricks. The fact is the $200 billion they came up with to buy 2 months was from considering already treasury purchased funds to be a credit. They have credited the contributions made by the government as a matching contribution of DOD personnel to the TSP G-Fund. In short they borrowed against an already treasury purchased fund. The government is already in default, just using tricky accounting methods to hide it, wish I could do that with my house. Just like corporations that steal from pension funds. In two months there will be nothing to steal and the US government will go into default. Yet gun laws are more important than preventing an all out default. This will be massive, a full government shut down, finally our politicians will have to work for free as there will not be a dollar to pay them, their health care, or their retirement. However under the laws our Soldiers will have to serve without pay. How long do you think that a Soldier can’t feed their family will support the government, because it would be considered AWOL to not show up to work in order to get another job to put food on the table.
Burlington VT. Consider Gun/ Magazine ban Mon. Jan 07
“This proposed charter change calls for the seizure of all semi-automatic “assault weapons” and magazines by the police, and not only violates the current state firearms preemption statute, but is an irresponsible attack on the property and rights of law-abiding gun owners in Vermont”
Please contact Burlington Mayor Miro Weinberger at 802-865-7272 and mayor@burlingtonvt.gov.
Contact information for your city councilor is provided here.
Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/burlington-vt-city-council-to-consider-gun-magazine-ban/#ixzz2HAmRT94w
Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/burlington-vt-city-council-to-consider-gun-magazine-ban/#ixzz2HAmBSxxD
Burlington Vt. City Council to Consider Gun & Magazine Ban on: Monday January 7, 2013.
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/burlington-vt-city-council-to-consider-gun-magazine-ban/#ixzz2HAl8gD6A
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/burlington-vt-city-council-to-consider-gun-magazine-ban/#axzz2HAg0F1EU
Illinois Anti-gun Bill to state house Sunday January 6, 2013
Illinois Anti-Gun Action Shifts to State House on Sunday, January 6, 2013
Call your state Representative IMMEDIATELY and respectfully express your opposition to banning firearms or magazines, and urge them to vote against any and all measures that do so, particularly Senate Bill 2899.
To reach the main line for the Illinois General Assembly, please call 217-782-2000.
Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/illinois-anti-gun-action-shifts-to-state-house-on-sunday/#ixzz2HAqLrrgo
Emanuel and Quinn are still hell-bent on exploiting recent tragedies to achieve their goal of making YOU a felon by shifting their anti-gun focus to the state House. So they are now looking to introduce similar gun and magazine ban registration language in the House when it convenes on Sunday for the last few days of their lame duck session.
Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/illinois-anti-gun-action-shifts-to-state-house-on-sunday/#ixzz2HAq6d8Zy
Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/illinois-anti-gun-action-shifts-to-state-house-on-sunday/#ixzz2HApI9XdB
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/illinois-anti-gun-action-shifts-to-state-house-on-sunday/#axzz2HAg0F1EU
IL Senate/ house to Vote on Registration, Gun, & Range bans!
IL Senate to Vote on Gun & Magazine Bans, Registration Schemes & Shooting Range Bans
Call your state Senator IMMEDIATELY and express your opposition to banning firearms or magazines and urge them to vote against House Bills 815 and 1263.
To reach the main line for the Illinois General Assembly, please call 217-782-2000.
Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/il-senate-postpones-votes-on-gun-magazine-bans-registration-schemes/#ixzz2HAu6qmFA
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/il-senate-postpones-votes-on-gun-magazine-bans-registration-schemes/#ixzz2HAsyz5Y3
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/il-senate-postpones-votes-on-gun-magazine-bans-registration-schemes/#axzz2HAg0F1EU
Cap’n Bubba on Vermont !
Vermont is , and Always has been The Only State in The Whole U.S. of A. that had NO Permit to Carry , Concealed , or Otherwise on the Books , and The State is Under Attack by The “National Socialist Liberal Party”(democrats) Mostly , but The Circle of History in The World is Repeating itself !
Generally When a Government Starts to Fail , in One Way , or Another , Because of “Poor Leadership” , and Greed , The Only Thing to do is Disarm an “Unhappy ” Populace , and that starts with “Gun Registration , and Yeah , We ALL Have heard this For Years , but Supposedly by The “Lunatic Right Wing Fringe”, a Minority at One Time , No , A Realistic Minority People Who Seen All This Before , and You All Know Where !
Then Along Comes The “Tragedy” , as “Ham Emmanuel” Would say “A Good Tragedy Should Never Be Wasted” , and That was His Phrase , but Then Fix The tragedy performed by “ONE” (1) NUT , and This is The Time to Move , While The Blood is Still Flowing in The News .
Nobody Said That He Runs a City With a “NO GUN” Policy , and Yet His City is Red Every Night From Gunfire , By Me , or You , of course Not , but Who , The Criminal Euphemisms we hear about All the time , but why no jail for them ?Too many jobs on the line ,Prison guards, Cops, Food Service to Prison, and Just Follow The Money .
“Government Governs Best , That Governs Least” .
The people of Germany seen it , The Russians , The Jews , and Now , NO , ……..Not us , it Could Never happen Here , …..They Said That Too !
“Then They Came For Me , and There Was No One Left”
The Jews Have a Phrase Too “NEVER AGAIN” !
The “JN” Should realize That The 2nd Amendment Was Going to be First at one time , but Later Changed , and “Ben Franklin” Said “The Only Time This Will Ever Have To Be Used is if They Try To Take it Away”
The First Amendment is Much More dangerous to a “Free Society” so Let’s Make Sure We Watch That One “First” .
Don’y usually go on , but Had To ,
Cap’n Bubba , Terrebone Parish , LA.
Former Marine , Registered Voter , Grandfather of Patriotic Children Who Say “God Bless You”,and Mean it .
Texas A.G. Abbott: I’ll Go to Court to Block Any Congressional G
Abbott says whatever is passed will be a waste of taxpayers time and money, because it won’t pass Constitutional challenges, and he says gun restrictions are ‘illogical,’ pointing to the twin cities of El Paso Texas and Juarez Mexico.
“Guns are banned in Juarez, guns are legal in El Paso,” he said. “But El Paso is far safer than Juarez.”
Read more: http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10672432#ixzz2HAc4ETGg
“Congress may be ramping up to consider gun restrictions in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting, but Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott says the proposals being discussed now are unconstitutional, and he says he will ask the courts to throw them out if they are approved, 1200 WOAI news reports.”
“I’ve been to the Supreme Court twice,” Abbott said in an interview with 1200 WOAI’s Joe Pags.. “I can tell you that these laws that try to restrict our gun rights violate the Second Amendment guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms. The U.S. Supreme Court has spoken on this issue twice.”
Read more: http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10672432#ixzz2HAbcZuc8
http://radio.woai.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=119078&article=10672432#ixzz2H4ZCW33L
Pennsylvania Police Chief Proposes ’2nd Amendment Preservation’
The ordinance, if adopted, would formally require the city to “enact any and all measures as may be necessary” to prevent the violation of the 2nd Amendment by any federal, state or local entity.
The proposal would further require the local government to nullify “all federal, state or local acts in violation of the 2nd Amendment” and declare them to be invalid within Gilberton Borough limits. The right to nullify unconstitutional laws is granted under the 10th Amendment to Constitution, which further reserves powers not explicitly granted to the (limited) federal government to the states and the people.
CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
Inherent Rights of Mankind
Section 1.
All men are born equally free and independent, and have certain inherent and indefeasible rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing and protecting property and reputation, and of pursuing their own happiness.
Security From Searches and Seizures
Section 8.
The people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers and possessions from unreasonable searches and seizures, and no warrant to search any place or to seize any person or things shall issue without describing them as nearly as may be, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation subscribed by the affiant.
Right to Bear Arms
Section 21.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.
Standing Army; Military Subordinate to Civil Power
Section 22.
No standing army shall, in time of peace, be kept up without the consent of the Legislature, and the military shall in all cases and at all times be in strict
subordination to the civil power.
http://www.infowars.com/pennsylvania-police-chief-proposes-2nd-amendment-preservation-ordinance/
Odnance (deliberate) on 2nd Amendment
I like the idea.
I’d like it even more if they replaced “2nd Amendment” with “Bill of Rights”.
“The Next AMERICAN CIVIL WAR” (Canada free press)
“The idiots in the Mainstream Media still do not understand that freedom of the press , freedom of speech, is only viable so long as the right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed by the Second Amendment. The job of the press is inextricably linked to the armed citizen. If the armed American goes, so does the independent, non-state-controlled press. Freedom of the press, freedom of speech, will disappear.”
“It is such a simple thing—when thought through. But that’s the problem. They aren’t thinking. They are reacting out of raw emotion—certainly NOT reason. It is their handlers, however, who ARE reasoning. They reason, and rightfully so, that they cannot accomplish their agenda as long as the American citizen is armed. And so the useful idiots of the Mainstream Media are trotted out to happily make fools of themselves in service to the political left, which will grind them into so much dust once their goals are realized.
“if there is any doubt in your minds that Americans will defend their constitutional rights to the death, simply drive across the Lincoln Bridge and take a long look at row after row of white grave markers at Arlington National Cemetery. As you gaze upon that place of honor, remember, we are the sons, grandsons, and great-grand sons of the men lying there. We are no less inspired than they to defend the constitution against all enemies—domestic and foreign.”
“Tyrants preserve themselves by sowing fear and mistrust among the citizens by means of spies, by distracting them with foreign wars, by eliminating men of spirit who might lead a revolution, by humbling the people, and making them incapable of decisive action…” … Aristotle
Aristotle said: “Tyrants preserve themselves by … by eliminating men of spirit who might lead a revolution, by humbling the people, and making them incapable of decisive action… .” Could this be why over a dozen of the US’s highest military officers have been hounded from service in recent months? Is it why this financial crises has dragged on and on … to keep us humble and incapable of decisive action?
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/51977
CAP’N BUBBA TOLD EM !
I’VE BEEN TELLING THEM THAT FOREVER , MAYBE ANOTHER PRESS WILL FORM !
LIKE IT DID IN GERMANY IN 1933 .
What is most likely
There have been some interesting discussions. What is most likely is the return of the same assault rifle ban and magazine size ban that expired in the past. With that said the grandfather clause will apply to current owners. Let’s face it, who is going to knock on doors to collect up weapons. It would take the Armed Forces to do so which is prohibited and if so ordered to do so would cause a split in the Armed Forces, this would be the worst case scenario that even the dumb heads (politicians) know. Once you have taken the oath to protect and defend the Constitution, that oath is forever and everyone that has taken that oath which is millions will honor it. My statement is not a threat, it is a statement that simply means that each individual that took the oath may have to decide if the Constitution is under attack and what action to take.
Deliberate dissemination of private security information
I have no doubt in my mind that the editor and writer of the Journal News article on Gun owners in Rockland and Westchester, deliberately set out to cause damage to people.
They knew full well that by printing the info in a digestible and easy to understand way that they did would put people at risk by identifying them and their locations. This was a deliberate act by intelligent, educated people who have no defence for the consequences of their actions against men women and children at those locations and other locations that are not listed as not having weapons on the premises.
That the police have not arrested them for this, indicates the police and FBI aren’t your best friends and have you and your family’s safety at heart, and should be treated with caution.
Similarly the editor and writer knew it would cause community anxiety, discord and even incidents but they were happy for that to happen, knowing that they could spiral out of control too.
Again the police nor FBI haven’t even investigated them for this let alone arrested them for this egregious breach of peoples privacy relating to they and their families safety and security.
This corespondent for one won’t shed a tear for any blow-back on anyone involved in this episode at the Journal News, rather it might be considered “just desserts” as in my opinion they should both be in jail right now.
Em pathetically I can understand how unhinged someone could be with grief and anger, if their family were to be damaged or killed because of this act by these so called journalists, we all would do the best to protect our spouses and kids and neighbours wouldn’t we?.
MikeNZ
I partially agree
First the JN did not violate any current laws. I wish there was a law that prevented them from doing so. With that said the law enforcement hands are tied, so please let’s not blame law enforcement, many police officers that risk their lives everyday had their info posted. Let’s go back in time. The founding fathers true intent for freedom of speech was that individuals could (peacefully) speak out against the government and not be prosecuted. Also the separation of church and state was intended for the fact that the Pope could not be President and the President could not be the Pope or other religious leader. They expressly stated in God we Trust, which means they believed in God. So the laws to force people to take down nativity scenes are not in line with the founding fathers. Those that display the Nativity scenes are expressing their freedom of speech and it does not in any form impact how the government operates, that was the intent of separation of church and state. The real problem is that our living law has twisted the intent of the founding fathers and our current laws are no longer within their original intent of the founding fathers
CORRECTION: Betsy Lombardi
She is not in Rye Brook, NY.
We have removed the incorrect address and phone number from the web site.
We regret the error.
Whither we go from here?
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/05/16354426-after-newtown-public-access-to-us-gun-records-is-a-flashpoint?lite
“The same information isn’t available in Connecticut, because that data is exempt from state FOI law. But after the Newtown massacre, Democratic state Rep. Stephen Dargan introduced a bill to change that. His measure, which has yet to receive its first hearing, would make the names and addresses of about 170,000 handgun permit holders in the state available to the general public, NBC 30 of Hartford reported.”
New word
Anyone remember “dowdification”? From Maureen Dowd and her vicious habit of quoting people correctly (to cover her ass) but truncated w ellipses (. . .) to completely change what the victim said.
How about “Hasson” from Janet Hasson to mean “utter, unforgivable, brass balled, hippocracy”?
Dowdification
The phrase was coined by James Taranto based on an article I wrote back in 2003 when she manufactured a quote from George W. Bush to claim, falsely, that al Qaeda was no longer a threat and then blamed Bush for the death of 8 Americans in Riyadh. She claimed they let their guard down because Bush said al Qaeda was no longer a threat.
What Bush said that those al Qaeda members who had been killed or captured were no longer a threat.
So, yes, I remember it quite well. At the time I had a site called The National Debate. I also mocked the Times for failing to run a correction and the Times threatened legal action against me. The net result was that ultimately the Times backed down, withdrew their legal threats and changed their policy for Op-Ed Correction.
You can read more about it here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/28/weekinreview/the-public-editor-the-privileges-of-opinion-the-obligations-of-fact.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
Our paper is next!!!
We are going to do the same thing to our newspaper the next time they run our names and addresses.
GREAT JOB AND THANK YOU FOR FIGHTING BACK!!!
Start building the list now
Start now with your list so that the impact will be greater. Newspaper publishers will pay for their personal 24/7 protection and leave the poorly paid pee-on’s hanging out to dry. Pictures of their homes / residences before posting will also have a great impact.
Changing the law
Newspapers generally consider it a feather in their cap if one of their stories results in getting a law changed.
But in this case, it’s quite possible that the Journal News will be responsible for a law change that makes it more difficult for New York journalists to obtain information.
Somehow, I don’t think that’s going to win them the admiration of their peers.
This letter says it all
Found at 2ndAmendmentDebate.com
Ma’am,
I am an active duty United States Army soldier serving in the Global War on Terror and have spent 9 years as a member of Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta. Senator I have seen and done things that you have only loosely read about in a Senate briefing. You cannot imagine the sacrifices I have made on behalf of my country. To read about what you intend try and push through to law makes me question your patriotism as a sitting United States Senator.
Like other soldiers who have written letters like this before me, let me inform you that should you find a way to make this the law of the land there is no way I will ever comply. Ma’am I was not in Newtown when the shooting that shocked the nation took place. I assure you if I was that Mr Lanza would never have gotten off a single shot. I do not deserve to be treated like a criminal by you and other anti-second amendment member of Government and will not tolerate it.
I took an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, but I never thought that it was possible that one day that oath would be tested by a knock at my door with a demand for my personal firearms. You are taking our country down a very destructive road.
So while you sit in your comfortable office, attend lavish DC parties, I will continue to be on the front lines in defending this country against threats that never even see the light of single media coverage. Hopefully when my time is up, should I be lucky enough to see the day of my retirement, I hope that I may return to a home that is free from an overly intrusive government that insists on deciding what is right for me rather than me making my own decisions.
Respectfully,
A United States Special Forces Operator
Ms. Feinnsteinn , or Chairman Mao ?
We Don’t ALL know , I Mean About 95% of People Probably Know WHO That Letter Was Intended for , and Her “Radical Communist Manifesto” ,Along With Her Gun Hater Cronies !
She , and Other Public “SERVANTS”(to us) , Took The Oath , and Now are Trying to Violate The Same Oath By changing “The Constitution” of The United States , and NOT Defend it !
The Orders received by us (my unit) During Vietnam were quite clear , as They are today , To defend This “Country” , and That includes All Loyal American Citizens too , and Not just The Soil , but Some of These Elected officials have forgotten it , But Not Marines , or Other Armed Forces !
All of us who served Our Country Honorably deserve to Grow old with that Peace of Mind Today , and Not have it threatened by “Enemies Domestic !
Semper Fi ,
Thank you
Thank you, thank you, thank you — Sir
From : Cap’n Bubba’s Camp :
As I Watch “Fox” news at 6 AM , I see That This Story is The “Opening Story” on The News Today , and All The Varied “Side Effects ” Are being mentioned , Like “Retired” Burglars NOW Watching the map for Homes They think they can get guns from , and One who said that When HE WAS in teh Criminal Biz , This Map would have been “Invaluable” To Him , and His career would Have been More Profitable , ….Knowing “Where” , and “Where Not” The Guns were , and went on to he would later call , and Thank The “JN” For their Help .
I Must Say That This is One of The MOST interesting Things Tht has Happened in My Recent Memory , and My Friends Are Gabbin All The Time About it Down Here !
So Bob , Thanks For Waking People up to The Fact The “Elitist Attitude” That These Folks ONCE Enjoyed is Goooone !
The Cap’n, Terrebone Parish , LA.
So why the delay in getting this map shut down?
“Inmates using newspaper’s gun owner map to threaten guards, sheriff says”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/law-enforcement-latest-critics-on-public-display-gun-owner-data-officers/#ixzz2H6HNynE0
“Ex-Burglars: Newspaper’s Gun Owner Map ‘Exceptionally Stupid’, Helps Crooks”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ex-burglars-confirm-that-newspapers-gun-owner-map-is-like-gold-for-crooks-exceptionally-stupid/
I’d be interested to hear how
I’d be interested to hear how those inmates were able to search for the guards on the UNSEARCHABLE Journal News map containing thousands upon thousands of pins.
Maybe there is an element of deceit to someone’s (either the guards’, the inmates’, or the Sheriff’s) claim.
Oh sorry, I was using my common sense.
Let’s all go back to being fired up. Stupid logic. Really gets in the way of a good time bashing session.
What if the RGA Armed Guards Boycotted Journal News? LOL!
1) Armed Guard with pistol permit, 50K a Yr. each.
2) Journal News Publish their personal info! Free
3) Disgruntled Guards outed by Journal news, LOL!
4) =Guards Boycott Journal News!,.. PRICELESS!!
“RGA Investigations, a private security company, “is doing private security at on location at the Journal News as a result of the negative response to the article,” according to a police report first obtained by the Rockland County Times (Nanuet, N.Y.) and shared with POLITICO. The guards “are armed and will be on site during business hours.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/01/journal-news-hires-armed-security-guards-153103.html
Great Job
The news paper absolutly desrves this. Keep up the good work.
What happened to the liberals?
Normally at this time of day the liberals have been coming out. I guess that they have given up. Let’s face it they lost their battle because they violated their own position of the 1st amendment not to diminish the protection of others. They have no precedence to stand their ground. Many states have already determined that gun ownership information is not public accessible information. It is only a matter of time that it is federal law. Not if just when.
A match made in ignorance,..Hollywood and Journal news
Hollywood actors are as two faced as Journal News!
http://youtu.be/jrJjlPH1dqo
Average Guy following the law VS famous person Breaking iT?!?
Here is a true story of what happens to an average guy that is not famous, or on TV, and is following exactly what he is told to do by federal officials to do, and to the letter of the law in Washington D.C.
-VS-
If You are the famous NBC News reporter David Gregory violating the Law even after you were told not to do what he did by D.C. Police.
GUESS WHO GOT THE SHORT END OF THE STICK!?!!
FULL STORY
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/4/if-youre-not-david-gregory/
EXTENDED FULL STORY,
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/guns/2013/jan/4/miller-if-youre-not-david-gregory-extended-version/
Two Americas: Gregory NOT Charged, but IRAQ VET JAILED?!?
Two Americas: Gregory Not Charged, butIraq Vet Jailed
For the same offense!!! Read the story here:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/01/03/Gregory-not-charged-iraq-veteran-was
Repost of yesterday post for matching contribution
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Exceptions to free speech in the United States are limitations on the First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech and expression as recognized by the United States Supreme Court. These exceptions have been created over time, based on certain types of speech and expression, and under different contexts. While freedom of speech in the United States is a constitutional right, these exceptions make that right a limited one.
Restrictions that are based on people’s reactions to words include both instances of a complete exception, and cases of diminished protection. Speech that involves incitement, false statements of fact, obscenity, child pornography, threats, and speech owned by others are all completely exempt from First Amendment protections.
In this case the JN has diminished protection by publishing permit holders and advertising where guns are located in an area that criminals are seeking to obtain weapons for resale or to commit violent crimes. The point is that criminals now know where guns are located; permit owners have a diminished protection since they are now a target.
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“JOURNAL NEWS ENDANGERS LIVES!”
Rockland, Westchester officials say gun permit list endangers officers
Originally published: January 4, 2013 3:40 PM
Updated: January 4, 2013 4:01 PM
By SARAH ARMAGHAN sarah.armaghan@cablevision.com
Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco speaks during a
Photo credit: Sarah Armaghan | Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco speaks during a news conference regarding gun permit information. (Jan. 4, 2013)
Criticism of The Journal News, which published a gun permit database last month, broadened Friday with Rockland law enforcement officials saying the map listing the names and addresses of those with gun permits is endangering lives.
Inmates at the Rockland County jail are taunting corrections officers by saying they know the guards’ home addresses — information they got from the list published by Westchester-based newspaper, Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco said.
“Since about 9:30 this morning, I’ve been in a meeting with my corrections officers and their unions. They have inmates coming up to them and telling them exactly where they live. That’s not acceptable to me,” Falco said at a news conference Friday morning in New City, where local leaders condemned the list.
Falco, along with other supporting police chiefs and county legislators, wants the paper to remove the information from its website.
“It’s hurting law enforcement as a whole and it’s directly affecting our ability to do our jobs,” Falco said. “And then when we leave our jobs, we’re going to have to defend our jobs and that’s going to make for a very serious incident that’s going to happen someplace in this county.”
Robert Riley, a White Plains police officer who is president of the department’s Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, agreed that the database is putting officers’ lives at risk.
“My members are outraged,” Riley said, noting that the potential dangers to law enforcement extend beyond Westchester and Rockland counties.
“You have guys who work in New York City who live up here,” Riley said. “Now their names and addresses are out there, too.”
Falco said there are 8,000 active and retired NYPD officers currently living in Rockland County.
The Journal News obtained the information of pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties through a Freedom of Information Act request after the massacre of 26 people — 20 of them children — in Sandy Hook, Conn., on Dec. 14. Putnam County has refused to turn over this information.
The interactive map, published Dec. 23, listed the names of about 44,000 pistol permit holders.
State lawmakers say they intend to introduce legislation to exempt the names and addresses of permitted pistol owners from being released to the public.
Calls to The Journal News Friday afternoon went unanswered. A message left on a newsroom answering machine was not returned.
In an article on the Journal News website, Janet Hasson, president and publisher of the newspaper, defended the decision. “New York residents have the right to own guns with a permit and they also have a right to access public information,” she said.
STRIKING BACK
Riley said he has been in touch with state Sen. Greg Ball (R-Patterson) about getting legislation passed “that makes sure this never happens again.”
Riley wrote a letter to the publisher of the newspaper asking that the names and addresses be removed from the website.
“While I believe these lists were published in the aftermath of the unfortunate tragedy in Newtown, Conn., and while I believe everything should be done to prevent such tragedies, releasing the names of active and retired police officers endangers their lives and those of their families,” Riley said in the letter obtained by Newsday.
“Every day, police officers risk their lives to protect the citizens and visitors in their communities. They enforce the laws and detect crime. In performing these duties, officers encounter persons that, for whatever reason, seek retribution against the officers,” the letter said.
By publishing their names and addresses, Riley said Friday, “Pandora’s box has been opened. The damage is done.”
Legis. Aron Wieder (D-Spring Valley) called the publication of the list “irresponsible journalism” and said he now fears for his safety because the map broadcast that he does not have a gun license. At the news conference Friday morning, he handed a $150 certified check and a completed pistol permit application to Rockland County Clerk Paul Piperato.
“I never owned a gun but now I have no choice,” Wieder said. “I have been exposed as someone that has no gun. And I’ll do anything, anything to protect my family.”
Piperato, who also serves as president to the New York State County Clerks Association, said all 62 counties in the state are supporting the state legislation to amend the law that makes gun permit holder information public.
“I’ve received hundreds of calls these last two weeks from residents in this county, both who have permits and those who do not have permits, who fear for their life,” Piperato said. “My heart goes out to them and I condemn what The Journal News has done.”
Rockland County Legis. Frank Sparaco (R-Valley Cottage) and Legis. Ilan Schoenberger (D-Wesley Hills) unveiled three bipartisan resolutions Friday in response to the newspaper’s actions.
The first condemns the publication of the list, while the second resolution supports proposed state legislation that would make pistol permit information confidential. Lastly, the legislators aim to institute a program by the Rockland County Sheriff’s Office that would distribute 1,600 firearm cable safety locks to residents in the county who want to safeguard their weapons.
“Regardless of anyone’s position on the issue of gun control, people on both sides of the debate have agreed that publicizing personal information of legal gun ownership serves no positive purpose,” Sparaco said.
Orangetown resident Charlotte Swift, 55, handed out lists of the newspaper’s employees linked to the article, with their home addresses and phone numbers, as well as local politicians who can have an influence on the bill in Albany.
Swift said she has owned a gun for more than 20 years and her name is on the published list.
“When I saw the list, I had an immediate flood of emotions that I cannot even describe to you,” said Swift. “I originally obtained a gun permit because I had previously been married to a man who attempted to strangle me . . . The first emotion I felt was, ‘Oh my gosh, he can find me.'”
She also feared burglars might break into her own home and those of her neighbors who do not have guns.
“It clearly had no journalistic purpose,” Swift said of the database. “In my mind, I felt intimidated, I felt threatened by them . . . and regardless of what The Journal News intended, what was their purpose in publishing it? It really didn’t give any information to people that help them in their everyday lives.”
The Rockland County resolutions will be voted on at a full legislative meeting in the upcoming weeks.
With Timothy O’Connor
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/rockland-westchester-officials-say-gun-permit-list-endangers-officers-1.4407323
I’d be interested to hear how
I’d be interested to hear how those inmates were able to search for the guards on the UNSEARCHABLE Journal News map containing thousands upon thousands of pins.
Maybe there is an element of deceit to someone’s (either the guards’, the inmates’, or the Sheriff’s) claim.
Oh sorry, I was using my common sense.
Let’s all go back to being fired up. Stupid logic. Really gets in the way of a good time bashing session.
“Pandora’s “IRRESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM” Legislator Aron Wieder (D)
By publishing their names and addresses, Riley said Friday,
Legis. Aron Wieder (D-Spring Valley) called the publication of the list “irresponsible journalism” and said he now fears for his safety because the map broadcast that he does not have a gun license. At the news conference Friday morning, he handed a $150 certified check and a completed pistol permit application to Rockland County Clerk Paul Piperato.
“I never owned a gun but now I have no choice,” Wieder said. “I have been exposed as someone that has no gun. And I’ll do anything, anything to protect my family.”
Piperato, who also serves as president to the New York State County Clerks Association, said all 62 counties in the state are supporting the state legislation to amend the law that makes gun permit holder information public.
“I’ve received hundreds of calls these last two weeks from residents in this county, both who have permits and those who do not have permits, who fear for their life,” Piperato said. “My heart goes out to them and I condemn what The Journal News has done.”
Rockland County Legis. Frank Sparaco (R-Valley Cottage) and Legis. Ilan Schoenberger (D-Wesley Hills) unveiled three bipartisan resolutions Friday in response to the newspaper’s actions.
The first condemns the publication of the list, while the second resolution supports proposed state legislation that would make pistol permit information confidential. Lastly, the legislators aim to institute a program by the Rockland County Sheriff’s Office that would distribute 1,600 firearm cable safety locks to residents in the county who want to safeguard their weapons.
“Regardless of anyone’s position on the issue of gun control, people on both sides of the debate have agreed that publicizing personal information of legal gun ownership serves no positive purpose,” Sparaco said.
“Pandora’s “IRRESPONSIBLE JOURNALISM” Legislator Aron Wieder (D)
By publishing their names and addresses, Riley said Friday,
Legis. Aron Wieder (D-Spring Valley) called the publication of the list “irresponsible journalism” and said he now fears for his safety because the map broadcast that he does not have a gun license. At the news conference Friday morning, he handed a $150 certified check and a completed pistol permit application to Rockland County Clerk Paul Piperato.
“I never owned a gun but now I have no choice,” Wieder said. “I have been exposed as someone that has no gun. And I’ll do anything, anything to protect my family.”
Piperato, who also serves as president to the New York State County Clerks Association, said all 62 counties in the state are supporting the state legislation to amend the law that makes gun permit holder information public.
“I’ve received hundreds of calls these last two weeks from residents in this county, both who have permits and those who do not have permits, who fear for their life,” Piperato said. “My heart goes out to them and I condemn what The Journal News has done.”
Rockland County Legis. Frank Sparaco (R-Valley Cottage) and Legis. Ilan Schoenberger (D-Wesley Hills) unveiled three bipartisan resolutions Friday in response to the newspaper’s actions.
The first condemns the publication of the list, while the second resolution supports proposed state legislation that would make pistol permit information confidential. Lastly, the legislators aim to institute a program by the Rockland County Sheriff’s Office that would distribute 1,600 firearm cable safety locks to residents in the county who want to safeguard their weapons.
“Regardless of anyone’s position on the issue of gun control, people on both sides of the debate have agreed that publicizing personal information of legal gun ownership serves no positive purpose,” Sparaco said.
local woman: Felt Fear when JOURNAL NEWS published list!!
Orangetown resident Charlotte Swift, 55, handed out lists of the newspaper’s employees linked to the article, with their home addresses and phone numbers, as well as local politicians who can have an influence on the bill in Albany.
Swift said she has owned a gun for more than 20 years and her name is on the published list.
“When I saw the list, I had an immediate flood of emotions that I cannot even describe to you,” said Swift. “I originally obtained a gun permit because I had previously been married to a man who attempted to strangle me . . . The first emotion I felt was, ‘Oh my gosh, he can find me.'”
She also feared burglars might break into her own home and those of her neighbors who do not have guns.
“It clearly had no journalistic purpose,” Swift said of the database. “In my mind, I felt intimidated, I felt threatened by them . . . and regardless of what The Journal News intended, what was their purpose in publishing it? It really didn’t give any information to people that help them in their everyday lives.”
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/rockland-westchester-officials-sa…
INMATES USEING “JN GUN MAP” TO THREATEN GUARDS!!
Police and Guards are being threatened by information from Journal News map!!!
POLICE:
http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/rockland-westchester-officials-say-gun-permit-list-endangers-officers-1.4407323
GUARDS:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/law-enforcement-latest-critics-on-public-display-gun-owner-data-officers/
Police Chiefs: LIVES ARE AT RISK Because of Journal news!!
Falco, along with other supporting police chiefs and county legislators, wants the paper to remove the information from its website.
“It’s hurting law enforcement as a whole and it’s directly affecting our ability to do our jobs,” Falco said. “And then when we leave our jobs, we’re going to have to defend our jobs and that’s going to make for a very serious incident that’s going to happen someplace in this county.”
Robert Riley, a White Plains police officer who is president of the department’s Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, agreed that the database is putting officers’ lives at risk.
“My members are outraged,” Riley said, noting that the potential dangers to law enforcement extend beyond Westchester and Rockland counties.
New fallout from the JN gun owner list
What a shock — the bad guys are using the list against the good guys. Read all about it here:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/law-enforcement-latest-critics-on-public-display-gun-owner-data-officers/?intcmp=trending
Law enforcement officials from a New York region where a local paper published a map identifying gun owners say prisoners are using the information to intimidate guards.
“They have inmates coming up to them and telling them exactly where they live. That’s not acceptable to me,” said Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco.
The publication of a name and
The publication of a name and address does not in any way justify the publication of a name, address, phone number, email address, facebook page, twitter account, pictures, and references to children. Robert Cox and his followers should be ashamed. Disgusting.
Criminal says JN Gun Map is great tool for burglars.
“That was the most asinine article I’ve ever seen,” said Walter T. Shaw, 65, a former burglar and jewel thief who the FBI blames for more than 3,000 break-ins that netted some $70 million in the 1960s and 1970s. “Having a list of who has a gun is like gold – why rob that house when you can hit the one next door, where there are no guns?
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/ex-burglars-say-newspapers-gun-map-wouldve-made-job-easier-safer/#ixzz2H2oEedQ7
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/ex-burglars-say-newspapers-gun-map-wouldve-made-job-easier-safer/
I tend to agree with you
I tend to agree with you, however, the information is public and according to the Journal news editors there is nothing wrong with printing public information for any reason. So if anyone should be ashamed and worthy of disgust it would be the people over at the Journal News who had time to think this through before they opened this can of worms.
Now you know how we feel…
Apparently in your eyes there was nothing wrong with the JN’s map until journalists were included. Now you know how it feels. We cry no tears for you, we are now too busy watching our backs and deciding if we now need to buy guns as a direct result of the arrogance and willful disregard the JN has for area residents. These residents may not write letters but will not be shopping in stores that advertise in the paper. By the way, is the JN going to supply all of the area households with armed guards and will they care about your safety once you leave work??? I think not.
Welcome to the watch your back club.
Its ALL Public record info,..
Robert Cox is not referencing anyone’s Children in anyway on his sight!
Get your facts straight!!!
Everything else you have mentioned is ALL public information.
If you don’t like it, Tell journal news you don’t like News Papers publishing law abiding citizens personal information in this “self serving to sell newspapers” sensationalism.
Thank you for your support in telling Journal news your displeasure in what they are doing. Well call them with you 🙂
There is more than one
There is more than one reference to children on the list. How about you get YOUR facts straight.
USA Today
By the way, the USA Today newspaper is owned by the Gannett chain.
Do not buy the USA Today newspaper.
Go figure! I stopped reading
Go figure! I stopped reading USA Today a looooooooooong time ago. There’s no journalistic honestly/credibility in USA Today.
Class Action?
So what do the citizens (both armed and unarmed) of the affected area need to do to bring a class action suit against the Journal? It is obviously a serious threat to the community to publish and distribute maps to unarmed houses and weapons caches and private valuables to criminals, and they obviously profited from the venture.
Pretty much everyone within the maps’ boundaries have been knowingly put in harms way by the newspaper. That’s a chunk of change.
And Robert Cox is causing a
And Robert Cox is causing a serious threat to the community and knowingly putting people in harm’s way by publishing even MORE personal information.
How can you say that?
But … but … but I thought it was OK to publish personal information as long as it’s “legally obtained” and “publicly available”!
Gosh, that’s what Janet Hasson said. And she runs a big New York newspaper, so she ought to know!
Leo F.
What the media in general and Journal News fail to comprehend is that people are being forced to obtain licensing to fulfill their constitutional right and this info is being displayed as a type of shame by the paper. There was no journalistic credibility nor justification for what was done.
Should we require people obtain a license to vote? Should we then publish an interactive map by political party with the same if as the gun owners?
Should we require reporters obtain licenses? Subject them to the same requirements as most concealed weapons permits including posting a bond in case they are sued for libel and of course post all of their home addresses? How many reporters have been outed for using fake sources to create the story line for them?
After all, I’m sure some people want to know.
Map data
Nicely done. I’ll make sure I link to your page. I’ve seen references to the editor complaining that she cannot go home because some people posted HER information on the internet, all available as public information.Guess she never heard the old saying “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander”.
FROM : Cap’n Bubba’s Gator Guides ,
As far as Sympathy for a “Cage Droppin’s Catcher” Like The “JN” Gannett Paper , The Staff , IF Down in This Neck O’ The Swamp Wouldn’t be in The Paper With Little Pins on Em ,……..It Would be Slightly Different , but Something I Most Likely Would NOT Get involved With , …As The Smell of Tar Makes Me Nauseous , And I Am Allergic To Chicken Feathers !
O’Reilly and Hannity
FYI: O’Reilly and Hannity (with Ann Coulter) were all over the Journal News gun list story Thursday night, and not surprisingly, there wasn’t a whole lot of sympathy for the JN’s actions.
Um. who cares what O’Reilly
Um. who cares what O’Reilly and Hannity have to say. They’re nothing but right-winged propaganda artists. Big DEAL.
CAP’N BUBBA on “Greg Ball “(R) on TV’s “Greta VanSustren NOW
I Am watching a Common Sense State Rep. on Fox TV Right Now as I Type , and He Has Vowed To Fight Against This “Rag” , and IT’S Agenda , but His Cryin Go Unheard By The Likes of “Gov.Mario Cuomo , and Others ,
So I AM TUNED IN , AND NOT ANON” , I Just Can Not Seem To Find Out “HOW TO REGISTER” In The last 6 Days Commenting on Here !
Putnam County’s Recorder , or “Clerk” Has refused to release The Names , and is in The process of being Sued by The State For Not Giving Up Your Names , and He , and The Senator deserve Your Support in This matter !
Again , I AM NOT “ANON” , “Cap,n Bubba’s Gator Guides” Terrebone Parish , LA. , and Many Others .
Cap’n Bubba , in LA. -Resposible Reporting Should also be Scrut
The Thing Everybody Forgets , or Never Knew ,…….The 2nd PROTECTS THE 1st , and that’s it ! IT SHALL !
So Why does The 1st Attack The 2nd ?
Y’all Miss That ?
Amendment protection
Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.
There’s an awful lot of history.
The devil is in the details.
People forget (or never knew – there IS an awful lot of history) the founding fathers originally wanted to make the right to bear arms the FIRST amendment. Under discussion it was (anemically) decided speech was even more important.
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Almost forgot to mention
Exceptions to free speech in the United States are limitations on the First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech and expression as recognized by the United States Supreme Court. These exceptions have been created over time, based on certain types of speech and expression, and under different contexts. While freedom of speech in the United States is a constitutional right, these exceptions make that right a limited one.
Restrictions that are based on people’s reactions to words include both instances of a complete exception, and cases of diminished protection. Speech that involves incitement, false statements of fact, obscenity, child pornography, threats, and speech owned by others are all completely exempt from First Amendment protections.
In this case the JN has diminished protection by publishing permit holders and advertising where guns are located in an area that criminals are seeking to obtain weapons for resale or to commit violent crimes. The point is that criminals now know where guns are located; permit owners have a diminished protection since they are now a target.
DAM
Amendment exceptions
100% of the First Amendment exceptions involve misuse of the right and thereby harming others.
Funny, that’s exactly how the Second Amendment works . . . .
Diane Kennedy
Diane Kennedy, president of the New York Publisher’s Association and Assistant Secretary-Treasurer of the New York Newspapers Association, went on record in support of the publisher of the Journal and plans on filing a friends of the court brief to force an unwilling Putnam county clerk to fork over a complete list of gunowners. This is according to stories published today (Jan 3, 2012).
This is her information:
Diane Kennedy
President
Phone: (518) ***-**** HQ Phone
Email: d***@***.com
New York Newspaper Publishers Association
291 Hudson Avenue Suite A
Albany, New York 12210
United States
What’s Your Goal, Robert?
Is this just tit for tat? Two wrongs, trying to make a right?
You said in one of your posts that no matter what (even if JN takes their map down), you are intent on publishing private information about the JN employees, most of whom had nothing to do with the article, and may not even have known about it until it was published. You have published far more information about this subgroup than “they” did about the gun-owners. And you have published it to a public that is angry… and armed (lol?)! You cannot possibly hope to control what people will do with this information. In fact, judging from the anthrax scare, unstable individuals are already going to far and harassing and threatening people there. That is never right!
I see your point behind this map. Public info published = public info published. Taste of their own medicine. (Except that their map included Journal News employees, including the report who wrote the story and compiled the map).
On some level, maybe in its conception, I see where you are coming from with it. But don’t you see that this has all gone too far? You are basically hunting down individuals who have nothing to do with this story, and making them and their families targets. And worse than what the JN did, you are doing it on purpose. One of the main criticisms of the JN map is that it has no point behind it. I would say my main criticism behind your map is that you are doing it so that these people can be specifically targeted. No good can come of this, any more than it could have come from the JN map. But you are guiltier, because you are doing it on purpose. Shame on you. And shame on your readers who are trying to take it even further!
Surely you must have some sense that overrides the desire for fame and attention, which I have to hypothesize is driving at least some of your “quest.”
Maybe you could try taking the higher road? Because this can’t end well if it keeps going like it is.
The JN did something inappropriate and is stubbornly refusing to backtrack. You are doing something that you KNOW is inappropriate, potentially even dangerous, and bragging about it on national news, to rile up an already angry base.
For shame, Robert Cox. For shame.
He wants the good of the greater
Change does not come from when things are right. Change come when things are wrong, so as for the judicial system goes two wrongs leads to a right. If you think two wrongs don’t make a right, then fix it by writing your politician to prevent anyone from publishing private information. There is a difference between public accessible information and publishable information, until a law says otherwise, the map of the JN employees is within the law just as JN list of permit owners. The law is a double edge sword. You can’t have it both ways. This is the point of the map of JN employees. You want freedom of speech then you have it. So does this map. You are what is wrong with this country; the good of the individual, was not what our founding fathers wanted, they wanted the good of the greater.
What Bob Wants
He actually wants children to get killed in new rochelle by a lone wolf shooter. He wants the system to fail so his tea party cronies can take over the country. He wants to throw a wrench into the system and watch the liberals fail in their quest for prosperity. Bob is a journalist and he awaits for the moment, to seize where he can capitalize on his own drive for success and $$. His ratings have gone down considerably and he’s actually thought about closing down the site, until this story hit. Adam Lanza’s bullets saved his career.
Liberal grasping at straws
Instead of posting a list of gun owners just post a list on non gun owners, then see what your liberal friend think of you. I think we should know who is not voting, who is not bearing arms to protect their country, so that way we know who not to care about when they use freedom of speech to speak junk.
Tit for tat and purpose.
Let’s take that one at a time.
The JN map had a couple purposes: Make money. Drive an agenda. Make the editor/reporter feel good/holier than thou.
About Tit for tat. Tit for tat has been proven many times to be the BEST methodology for getting along w other people. (social research, computer simulations, interest groups).
You get along w some guy. He shafts you. You shaft him back. You return to being nice. This keeps things level – he does not profit from his treachery. You also keep the moral high ground as YOU NEVER START IT and he can end it any time.
Robert has achieved several goals already
To: The author of “What’s Your Goal, Robert?”
Robert Cox has nothing to be ashamed of. Why is it always incumbent upon the aggrieved parties (and those who sympathize with them) to “take the high road” and do nothing to right a wrong?
You admit that “the JN did something inappropriate,” but it’s obvious that you’ve reserved the bulk of your wrath for Robert Cox. (Or are you going to tell me that you sent a similarly harsh letter to the Journal News? Didn’t think so.) As for Robert “making people targets,” what exactly do you think the Journal News has done to thousands of law-abiding gun owners, including former judges, cops and women with stalking ex-boyfriends?
There’s truth in the adage “Nice guys finish last.” Sometimes it takes an in-your-face backlash to show a bully why it doesn’t pay to be a bully.
Publishing the names, addresses, phone numbers and other personal information of JN staffers actually accomplishes several goals: (1) It gives these ivory-tower journalists a taste of the uncertainty they’ve inflicted on average citizens who had reasons to arm themselves; (2) It shows other newspapers what’s likely in store for their staffers if they decide to publish a similar list; (3) It may prompt a pushback from the inside of the Journal News; (4) It may spur advertisers to cancel; (5) It demonstrates the double-edged nature of the “legitimately obtained public information” defense, since the same can be said for JN staffers’ biographical info; (6) By prompting the JN to hire armed guards, it reveals the hypocrisy of the paper’s anti-gun stance.
Robert is a little guy standing up to a bigger, more powerful newspaper chain. For that he deserves accolades, not criticism.
He’s little alright. Too
He’s little alright. Too little to understand how stupid he is.
Speaking of little …
And Journal News staffers have discovered that they’re not half as big as they thought they were when the “personal information” game applied only to other people’s families.
Funny how armed protection isn’t such a bad idea when it’s about them.
The goal of this map is to
The goal of this map is to give people targets to bully and harass. That’s wrong, period. The ends do not justify the means.
Where is the common sense, and the moral sense?
Here it is
There’s plenty of common sense in subjecting an arrogant, irresponsible, corporate-owned newspaper to the kind of treatment it’s inflicted on thousands of law-abiding citizens.
You can write all the letters to the editor you want, but I can safely predict that none of that will affect JN’s management’s sense of self-righteousness. You can bet that the “suits” at the Journal News expected to earn liberal street cred and awards for their “courageous” decision to publish gun owners’ names.
However, when the individuals who inhabit the JN’s ivory tower discover what life is like when your personal information is available for all to see — and when a newspaper that’s been shedding money and circulation begins losing more advertising and subscriptions — there’s a substantially increased chance that said newspaper will change its ways.
Robert has achieved several goals already
This is a brilliant, spot-on assessment. I add the following. The liberal elite in the media need to be called to task for their stupidity and hypocrisy. Robert and Chris have inspired me to create my own blog and take this a step further.
http://backatchyass.wordpress.com
re:What’s your goal
You defend the news “reporters” for endangering families because of the Journal’s liberal views?What gives a newspaper the right to place MY wife and 3 year old in danger?You say most of the reporters and staff were not involved?None of the people they named and placed on their map were involved in anything.
This is called fighting fire with fire.Maybe the shock of THEIR information being handled the same way will make them feel the same as the people THEY victimized.
The Journal News did this to incite people against their neighbors, especially coming right on the heels of one prominent Democrat calling for all NRA members and their supporters to be killed, and others on the ‘net saying all gunowners should be murdered.
the difference is no one
the difference is no one cares enough about you or your wife and kid to drill down to find out whether or not you are registered to own a pistol. so you have nothing to worry about. stop flattering yourself.
The difference
And the government does not have enough interest in you to spy on you. HOWEVER, they will cheerfully spy on everyone else.
In no way did I defend what
In no way did I defend what the JN did. I think it was wrong at best and I sincerely hope no harm comes from it. They posted a pointless map in an effort to get internet hits or gain people’s interest in their paper. It was stupid at best and dangerous at worst.
However, Robert’s map is dangerous at best.
How can you people defend “two wrongs making a right” in this case? Have you no moral sense? Can you not see the forest for the trees?
This cannot end well.
You stilll blame Robert more than the JN
How can you call a map containing thousands of people’s personal information (the JN’s) merely “stupid at best and dangerous at worst,” but call a map with only about six dozen names on it (Robert’s) “dangerous at best”?
I don’t get how “payment in kind” is more loathsome than the original premeditated offense. Sometimes the only way to make a bully change his ways is to make him feel exactly what his bullied victims feel.
And if Journal News employees find life more uncertain for them and their families now that their addresses are publicly available … well, maybe now they understand what they’ve inflicted on thousands of law-abiding residents who also have families.
Very well said.
Very well said.
Why Jack Shafer missed the mark
Robert,
Jack Shafer may be a thoughtful, respectable journalist, but that doesn’t mean he’s right in this case. And you shouldn’t let his rationale go unchallenged.
Two points in Shafer’s column rankle me:
1. “Undeterred by the fact that the handgun data was, by state law, a matter of the public record, aggrieved gun owners retaliated.”
2. “Likewise, the idea that a tepid story somehow negates a superb data dump escapes me. Sometimes the data dump is the news.”
Unless I misunderstand him, Shafer is saying that (1) anything that’s public information is OK to publish, and (2) even if you have no story to build around the data you obtain from public records, it’s fine if the data itself interests readers.
My response to Shafer would be: By those standards, we can also justify the release of all legally obtained, publicly available personal information about Journal News staffers, regardless of whether it fleshes out a news story or investigative piece.
Not only does that include names, addresses and phone numbers, but I’ve seen public records that contain Social Security numbers, children’s names, mental health information, alcoholism counseling reports and accusations of illegal activity. But as long as readers find it interesting, there should be no restrictions on publishing the entire “data dump” — right, Jack?
Ryan
If it’s acceptable to publish a list of people enjoying their Second Amendment rights, then surely it’s acceptable to publish a list of people enjoying their First Amendment rights.
Why should “freedom of the press” be treated any differently than the “right to keep and bear arms”?
Journal News
How about every one not happy with the Journal News cancelled subscriptions?
Mr. Cox , You have Hit “Ganett With a Brick !
I Mean A Full Size , 2000 lb. , Mass Comet size Brick !
Does This “KAUL” Hate You , Me , NRA , Congress , The Pope , And Mars The Planet Mars .
Real News Writin Liberal Bomb Makin Crazy Reporter .
GOOD JOB BOB !
Cap’n B.
Des Moines Register ,Ganetts Sister Paper Writes :
A Guy Who Is a reporter for the “Des Moines Register” apparently Has Been Off His Couch , and Threatening Gun Owners , and Lawmakers , The NRA , and ANYONE WHO BELIEVES IN THE ” 2nd Amendment” !
His Last Name is “Kaul” , And You Should Read His “Terror Filled” Editorial .
It is Scary , I Mean For a LIBERAL , REAL SCARY CLOSET STUFF !
Who Knew What WAS In Their Minds ?
Not This , Check it Out .
He is Recovering from a heart Attack He Had in July , and When I Read it , I Wanted to Know How This Guy is STILL BREATHING ?
Nice try,
“Donald Kaul retired earlier this year. Now he has decided to return to writing occasional opinion columns for OtherWords.org.”
He is not a reporter, he doesn’t work for Gannett, and is just a nut job who got his vile diatribe printed in an irresponsible paper. The fact that the Des Moines Register is part of the invader of privacy Gannett corporation should surprise no one.
Try to google better next time, Anonymous.
I’m No Googler , Idiot !
I Was Watching “Fox” News This Morning , and Watched Them On Friends First Read His Letter , THEY MADE NO REGARDS TO HIS BEING A FORMER WRITER , They Said “An Editor”
I Personally Don’t Think That You Meant To Attack Me , but Check YOUR Facts , Before You Go off “Half-Cocked” on Me !
I Am From LA. , And Do NOT Suffer from Your Political problems , but I have been making comments since this thing started , and Now am Thinking That You are becoming as Paranoid as The Very People You are against ! Paranoia is Gettin Catchy .
Thanks For Asking Though !
Cap’n Bubba’s Gator Tours, Terrebone Parish ,Bayou Tesh , LA.
And I asked HOW NOT TO BE ANONYMOUS , And got No Answer on that !
Now you know better than to believe FOX news…
he’s not an editor, he’s a nut job who advocates violence.
Try Google, it’s very easy. Go to any Google search box, there must be one on your computer, and type in:
Donald Kaul nut job
and read what comes up. You’ll see he is a nut job.
So is registering for this site. See the word ‘Join’ up at the top? Go there, and, well, join.
Try them both out, you’ll like them.
NOT ANON !
You Are ON “FOX” , and Not on in “New Rochelle” , The ONLY Thing from there is “Dick VanDyke” , and HE Moved , Now I Know Why !
They Also Said “Putnam” Ain’t Givin up NAMES , So N.R.U. , You Musta Moved !
NOT ANON !
You Are ON “FOX” , and Not on in “New Rochelle” , The ONLY Thing from there is “Dick VanDyke” , and HE Moved , Now I Know Why !
They Also Said “Putnam” Ain’t Givin up NAMES , So N.R.U. , You Musta Moved !
Des Moines Register
This is where former publisher gary sherlock (the brain child of the Journal Snooze) “made his bones”.
Pretty sure Joe McDonald left
Don’t think he works there anymore.
add businesses to map
I suggest you add the local advertisers on your map as well as the national advertisers with a presence in the area.
Local Business
I suggest you chill out…local stores need all the business they can get
Local stores have a choice to make
Sure, local stores need business, but that doesn’t mean they have to advertise in the Journal News.
And if they’re going to financially support a newspaper that believes in violating the privacy of thousands of average citizens, local stores don’t deserve a free pass.
I would simply inform them that as long as they continue to advertise in the Journal News, I won’t be spending another penny with them.
Local Stores
Should families cease putting paid obituaries in the JN…should churches cease putting service schedules in the JN….should people trying to sell homes or cars cease putting ads in the JN….as I suggested…chill out.
Yes, until the rag that is the JN takes down the map…
or you can do nothing and they will come for you some day.
NR Used
Who is “they” ?
to bridget: who are they?
Our Gov’t and the United Nations Military, Bridget. Since you have internet I suggest you get informed like MOST of us. (no offense). GOOGLE: ‘Tom DeWeese Agenda 21’ and go to YouTube and do a SEARCH on ‘Agenda 21’. It’s about the past, present and future of OUR Gov’t in the USSA (United States of Soviet America). We the People are no longer in the USA.
Join a Tea Party or a CONSTITUTIONAL Grassroots Movement to know more. You get to learn YOUR RIGHTS and what the foundering fathers met for America, ETC.
May GOD bless you. PLEASE do the RESEARCH and YOUR Question will NO longer be a Question.
Answer to Bridget
Bridget: In answer to your questions …
1. Should families cease putting paid obituaries in the JN? YES, ALTHOUGH I’M OK WITH PUTTING A FREE OBITUARY IN THE JN.
2. Should churches cease putting service schedules in the JN? IF THEY’RE FREE, NO; IF THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM, YES.
3. Should people trying to sell homes or cars cease putting ads in the JN? YES.
Now here’s a question for you: Is the Journal News is the only newspaper in that entire area that can handle local obituaries, church service schedules and want ads?
If not, what’s to chill out about … unless you sell ads for the JN? A boycott only works if you starve the beast — and since the JN has been losing subscribers and revenue at an alarming rate in recent years, this is one beast that can’t afford to get any hungrier.
Answer to Bridget
I don’t know where you reside…butin this area the JN is the only meaningful distribution source for the info I mentioned previously.
Answer to Bridget
Well, I don’t live in the Journal News’ coverage area, but I’d be surprised if it has no “meaningful” media competition. After all, we’re talking about the New York City suburbs, not the middle of Wyoming. I’ve already heard the Rockland County Times described as a rival newspaper, and I would think there’d be other alternatives, such as freebie papers, magazines, and radio and TV stations, not to mention the Internet.
But seriously … are you sure you’re primarily concerned with local businesses, churches and residents with obituaries and want ads to place? It seems more likely that you’re an advertising rep with the Journal News who’s concerned that the paper will suffer further financial losses.
In any case, my general feeling is that no local businesses or churches are going to be harmed irreparably by pulling their advertising from the Journal News for a few weeks or so. After that, it’s a matter of whether the JN removes its gun owner lists or continues to arrogantly violate the privacy of law-abiding citizens.
Answer to Bridget
Sorry…Rockland County Times not even close….other forms of communiucation you mention do not arrive on your doorstep. I’m not a ad rep…just presenting common marketing sens to an out of towner.
Answer to Bridget
Sorry…Rockland County Times not even close….other forms of communiucation you mention do not arrive on your doorstep. I’m not a ad rep…just presenting common marketing sens to an out of towner.
Answer to Bridget
Perhaps so, but if you’re not a Journal News employee, I still don’t understand your intense interest in “marketing sense” for small businesses and individuals — and your concern that they continue to buy advertising in the JN.
When you’re taking strong issue with a newspaper over its policy, the best way to get management’s attention is to hit them where they live — in the wallet, by pulling ads and canceling subscriptions.
A spate of such action is the surest way to prompt the Journal News to reverse its policy. And I doubt that any local businesses would have to close if they didn’t advertise in the JN for a month or so.
Out of Control ! From a Not Anon , “Bubba St. Jaques-Belanger”
That is What You ALL Seem to be , and When Does the Names on The List STOP ?
“Joe McCarthy” must Still be Alive up North There , because You sure are Findin More Names to add to the MAP , Why Not ME , I am a Southern Democrat Former Marine !
C’mon , and get it on with ME , and put me on that list , we DON’T Have one , We Don’t Need one , Because , NO ONE HERE THINKS LIKE THAT !!
The Cap’n .
You should clarify
I can’t tell if you’re upset at the Journal News or Robert Cox, and I suspect that others can’t either.
Who exactly are you comparing to Joe McCarthy — the Journal News or Robert?
If you’re taking issue with the Journal News, it’s very confusing to complain in here about people being added to the list … unless you also believe that Robert shouldn’t add Journal News employees’ information to his list either.
From : The Cap’n- (Cap’n Bubba’s Gator Guides) TerreboneL
My Issue is With The “Mob Mentality” This Blog has Attracted , and All The “Let’s Post These Guys NAMES , and Let’s Get Them Too” People Comin Out of The Woodwork on a ” Reasonably Coordinated Blog Scenario” for the Public’s Good , But This Happens in ANY Combustible Situation , it Attracts SOME Real Idiots , and They , and You Know When You Read it , They “Go Off Topic” , and Focus on a “MOB” , Or “Posse Mentality !
I Just suggested ,to Stay on Point , and Not Drift Away from the Main Issue ,and That “WAS” The Reckless Use Of The “Free Press” , and That They Should be a “Well , and Carefully Regulated Entity” in This Country , Because “The Pen Sometimes is Mightier Than The AR-15” ,…………..BUT NOT ON MY LAND !
Did I Make Myself Clear ?
Don’t PRINT MY NAME , OR YOU WILL KNOW IT MUCH BETTER WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE “First Amendment” Regulations I have in Mind !
Staying on point
Well, the point of Robert Cox’s blog was to subject Journal News employees to the same exposure they’ve inflicted on thousands of citizens. So in that sense, gathering the names of JN staffers IS staying on point.
However, in no way should that be construed as “Let’s get them too.”
And I’m not getting the sense that those who are upset with the JN are recommending that anybody “get” the people who work there. It’s more a case of “Give them a taste of their own medicine” — see how they like it when somebody else publishes personal information (their own) that’s also publicly available.
easy with the Joe McCarthy
easy with the Joe McCarthy stuff people. Not my fault my mom and dad wanted to punish me for anything i would do in the future by giving me that name, but still. LOL
Just trying to lighten the mood
Lets understand who REALLY allowed this information to get out
Perhaps you should publish the names and home addresss of everyone in the New York State Legislature, because THEY are the ones who decided that this information is Public Record.
Nice try, JN employee…
at obfuscation BUT, which would you prefer if you were looking to invade the privacy of someone (and we know what the JN employees do when THEIR privacy is invaded, they hire armed guards, figure out the irony yet? Take your time) to find out if they were a legal registered gun owner?
Cross check on the internet to make sure the names you want to spy on correlate with the addresses, go to the county clerk with the list of names, WAIT on the usually interminable line, ask and re-ask your question of the person behind the desk who has one eye on the clock waiting for their break, submit your request, go home and WAIT days, weeks or months for your list of names and addresses so you can invade the privacy of those in your request if they are indeed a legally registered gun owner?
OR, do you click on a dot on a map? You tell me.
WELL??????????
Try again, and this time place the blame for invasion of privacy where it is due. There’s a good little JN employee.
Speaking of good little JN employees …
Journal News editor Caryn McBride is now a national media sensation. McBride has become so unhinged over the negative reaction to her paper’s gun owner story that she’s been wasting the local police department’s time with overblown complaints about imaginary threats.
And if that’s not enough media exposure for Caryn, she’s quite the YouTube star with numerous scintillating chats involving local businesspeople. (OK … the truth is that these amateurish videos are the Internet’s answer to waterboarding. But feel free to subject yourself to the best of Caryn.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXi3R0qpxEs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfajWJX6rQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDWM-Bh8mq0
And a bonus speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWYpoQoVo5g
Caryn McBride’s place
Want to see where Journal News editor Caryn McBride lives? Her address, 280 Bronxville Road, comes back to the Bronxville Lodge cooperative building, where advertised properties range from $100,000 to $600,000.
According to one website, “The building is a large, red brick structure of seven stories, with entrances on both Bronxville Road and Garrett Place.”
“New Rochelle Used …………….What ? ……..To Be Normal ?
I Sincerely think that You R in The Same “Foaming @ The Mouth” Mean Mood as The “Kaul” Guy That wants to Do All Those “Nasty” Things to Gun owners , and Their Kin , Legislators , and such , and Seriously Think That You , and He seek out Some Professional help , and get off The Internet for awhile , and Go Fishin , You R Gettin Older every time You get Nasty like You Do , Chill Bud , It’s gonna be here Tomorrow , Promise .
Cap’n Bubba St.Jaques-Belanger , Soon To Hang Out another Shingle , “Mood Straitener” !
Oh dear, another JN employee heard from…
keep it up, Anonymous, you’re making the JN employees look sillier with every post.
Disregard Number for Robert Brum
I have been advised that the home phone listing for Robert Brum in Pomona is incorrect. Please disregard 845-354-0243. That is the number for an older woman who was assigned that number after Robert Brum moved.
Is JN going to add itself to the interactive map
Is JN going to add itself to the interactive map now that it has hired armed guards who possess gun permits?
To not do so seems hypocritical, no?
Hah, that’s hilarious…
too bad the JN employees don’t have the cleverness to see the irony of this all and the humor of your post.
I wonder if they warned their gun-toting security detail that they would be invading their privacy by publishing their names and addresses and if – because after all some people don’t LIKE having their privacy invaded – their security detail assigned armed guards from outSIDE the counties whose privacy the JN invaded.
Tell us, lurking JN employees, do.
Ok, since they’ve hired
Ok, since they’ve hired security, have people go to their homes & get license plate numbers & make/model of vehicles for you to post.
That’s a really, really bad idea!!!!
What would the goal of that be? They posted names and addresses. We are posting names, addresses, emails, facebooks, twitter, and phone numbers. It’s already in a gray area of potentially dangerous and harassing.
Let’s watch our step. The last thing we need is anyone taking this too far. That will defeat our cause very quickly.
Walk slowly. Carry a big stick.
Agreed
Yeah, I wouldn’t start imitating the behavior of stalkers.
JN staffers are already so panicked that they’re hiding or taking down Facebook and Twitter accounts, hiring armed guards at their office, and calling the police about vague complaints that they imagine to be scary and threatening.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if some of them are applying for gun permits.
Can’t say I feel sorry for them, since I suspect that a lot of average citizens in their area are now feeling justified fear at the fact that their addresses have been revealed to violent ex-boyfriends, ex-husbands and other lowlifes.
Journal News hires armed security
The Rockland Times is reporting that the Journal News has hired armed security for its Nyack, NY office.
http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/01/the-journal-news-is-armed-and-dangerous/
We reported three days ago that the White Plains, NY office had also hired armed security.
Cara Matthews’ address
Robert,
I see that you have a Connecticut address for Cara Matthews. Is it possible that she also maintains an Albany address when she’s covering the state house for the Journal News? This one seems to correlate:
Cara Matthews
397 State St #9A
Albany, NY 12210
(518) 432-4094
Look at the hornet’s nest the
Look at the hornet’s nest the JN has walked into.
Group claims hacked subscriber database of NY newspaper which published gun permit map
Posted by William A. Jacobson Tuesday, January 1, 2013 at 8:05pm
The Lower Hudson Journal News, a Gannett newspaper, caused controversy when it published a map of names and addresses of gun permit holders, and announced that it planned to do so again. The plan for further publication may be in doubt as a neighboring county just announced it was denying the Journal News access to its gun permit database.
In protest, bloggers posted the home addresses and telephone numbers of Journal News editors and staff. Also cirulating was the personal and family contact information for the Chairwoman of Gannett.
The Journal News has hired armed guards for its offices, according to Politico, because of threats.
This privacy war has just escalated dramatically, as a group of self-described ”2nd Amendment supporters” claims it has downloaded and posted on the web what it describes as the “user” database of the Journal News.
Twitter users claim the list is being widely circulated. Although the links are easily available, I’m not including links to any of the websites containing the alleged database for the same reason I did not provide the personal information sent to me about Gannett’s Chairwoman.
At least two tweets (only one of which is imaged here) disclosing this development were copied to the Journal News account, @lohud:
New York County denies
New York County denies request for names of gun permit holders
NEW YORK | Tue Jan 1, 2013 6:16pm EST
(Reuters) – Authorities in a suburban county north of New York City said on Tuesday they will refuse to release names of local gun permit holders to a newspaper that has been publishing the identities of thousands of license-holding residents.
Putnam County Clerk Dennis Sant said he would defy a request for information about pistol permit holders from the White Plains, New York-based Journal News, which has come under criticism for publishing thousands of such identities already.
“There is the rule of law, and there is right and wrong and the Journal News is clearly wrong,” Sant said in a statement. “I could not live with myself if one Putnam pistol permit holder was put in harm’s way, for the sole purpose of selling newspapers.”
Isn’t that interesting?
“The county clerk said he had received hundreds of phone calls urging him not to give the information to the paper.”
Again, nice to know this site is having an effect. Kudos to all. Interesting especially to know the request can be denied? Seems Putnam has ethics that Westchester and Rockland don’t.
You don’t think Idoni I …… no he wouldn’t do that, would he? You don’t think the rag JN …. no they wouldn’t do that, would they?
Perhaps a letter is warranted to the other two county clerks to ask them if they did and the rag JN did?
The Price of Success
Reader may have noticed that shortly before midnight on New Year’s Eve that the site went a little kerflooey and remained that way for about 12 hours. We had two problems, first we had a technical problem and second we had trouble getting through to our tech folks given the holiday and the timing. Figuring that most folks were out late and sleeping in, along with tech folks I figured I would just not worry about too much until noon.
I do not want folks to think we were “hacked” or something like that.
The problem was sort of a “good” problem.
We ran out of space! The map article is our most read article ever.
So once my tech guys got on it, it was a quick fix.
So what can I say…to our many readers this week on the map story, happy new year and thanks for “breaking” the machine with your support 🙂
Funny
Saw this and had to laugh or cry…so I laughed…
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r33/bigredape/loHud_zps486f7c13.jpg
Robert, here’s another name for you
Couldn’t directly verify this with Gannett/Journal News employment records, but confidence is high. Cara Matthews’ own online bio info notes that she covers the state house, got her bachelor’s degree in 1990, and formerly worked for newspapers in Connecticut.
This Cara L. Matthews lives in Albany, down the street from the state capitol … is 44 years old, which corresponds to a 1990 college graduate … and previously lived in Connecticut.
So here are the details — along with my New Year’s Day toast to what publisher Janet Hasson defends as “legally obtained” information. Gosh, Janet, you’re so right: If the information is publicly available, it might as well be shared with the world.
Cara Matthews
397 State St #9A
Albany, NY 12210
(518) 432-4094
Good news, Bob,
I always think first of conspiracies.
Glad to hear this site is hotter than the collars of all the JN employees who didn’t enjoy their tit for tat.
Happy New Year to you.
Boycott Gannett advertisers
Boycott Gannett advertisers movement gaining momentum
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/31/advertisers-of-new-york-newspaper-face-boycott-over-papers-decision-to-publish-names-and-addresses-of-legal-gun-owners/
The New York State Rifle & Pistol Association is calling for a nationwide boycott of the advertisers of the suburban New York newspaper that published online maps revealing names and addresses of people with pistol permits.
The association on Monday announced it was urging people to stop patronizing any business who advertises with Gannett — the White Plains-based Journal News’ parent company — until the map is removed. On Dec. 22, the Journal News published interactive maps showing the pistol permit holders in the state’s Westchester and Rockland counties. The decision sparked an uproar among conservatives and gun rights advocates, but the paper says it will continue adding names to the map.
The paper’s decision to publish an online list of pistol permit holders was a “wanton act” that “has put in harm’s way tens of thousands of lawful license holders,” the association stated in a press release.
The group is encouraging “concerned citizens” to contact national and local advertisers who use the Journal News — including Best Buy, CVS, IKEA and Target, among others — and tell them to stop running ads until the list of lower Hudson Valley pistol license holders is off the web.
This is excellent…
Bob, has your site been hacked? I am not able to get into your usual site.
More proof that the rag that is the JN is sweating buckets.
Keep up the good work, and Happy New Year to you. Here’s to the maps being disabled in 2013.
And don’t forget, send Tweets to all the advertisers until they force the weasels at the JN to back down.
Journal News purpose of list
One must ask what the real purpose of publishing the list of permit holders was. In my opinion, as well as the opinion of the “Westchester County Firearm Owners Association” was to “intimidate and bully lawful gun-owning citizens”. We should ask ourselves how we can best respond to such tactics. In my opinion the best response is to fight fire with fire. The Journal News hoped to create a situation where the neighbors of the permit holders would talk to the permit holders about their gun ownership. The same tactics should be used against the employees of the Journal News.
How might this be accomplished is the next thing we should ask ourselves. In my opinion, the best way this can be done is by following the employees home and taking their picture. Once that is done flyers can be printed up and taken door to door to the homes of the employees neighbors. First the indentity of the employee should be established, then the neighbor should be notified of a planned protest in their neighborhood against employees of the Journal News. All persons involved in the door to door activity should be attired in their “sunday best” to present an aire of respect and responsibility. It would be best if couples, such as a husband and wife, were to do all the door to door activity.
Now to the day of the Journal News employee neighborhood protest. In my opinion, all required permits should be obtained and the local police should be notified of the planned protest. All persons involved in the protest should be well dressed and conduct themselves in a respectful and civil manner. There should be at least three to four video cammeras running at all times to insure the safety of everyone involved.
In my opinion, the protests should not be limited to just the reporters. The general workers at the paper are just as important, if not more so, than the management and reporters. We should all realize that you can not print a newspaper without roll paper stock and ink. A newspaper can not be delivered to a private home until it is taken to a distribution point. I believe that the best way to put pressure on the Journal News, is to put pressure on the “regular employees”. Make the “regular employees” feel as uncomfortable as the permit holders felt.
Respectfully,
John S.
Columbus, OH
Are you out of your mind?
That sounds like a great way to have someone get hurt – there are a lot of crazies out there who may feel so strongly that they take matters into their own hands if they don’t get the reaction they are looking for.
We don’t need that kind of publicity.
The message we have been sending is a strong one, and is being heard. It should stand for itself without more actively endangering anyone.
Agreed!
Agreed!
Journal News purpose of list.
I do think, in my opinion, that you are projecting your own thought and belief systems upon people you do not know. Did I not say that everyone should be, “respectful and civil”? In case you forgot, I will provide my full quote.
“Now to the day of the Journal News employee neighborhood protest. In my opinion, all required permits should be obtained and the local police should be notified of the planned protest. All persons involved in the protest should be well dressed and conduct themselves in a respectful and civil manner. There should be at least three to four video cameras running at all times to insure the safety of everyone involved.”
Please tell me how anything I stated in my “opinion piece”, called for violence. Did I not call for all permits to be obtained? Did I not call for police notification? Did I not say that everyone should be respectful and civil? Did I not say that video cameras should be used for the safety of all persons.
If you can explain to me how anything I stated in my opinion piece called for “more actively endangering anyone.” as you put it, I would be shocked.
Time to be honest. Hold people to account. The first amendment says “Congress shall pass no law”, not citizens will have no opinion!!!!
Respectfully,
John S.
Columbus, OH
I appreciate your thoughtful response, but…
I think you may have misunderstood the tone and content of my comment.
I don’t think you were “calling for” anyone to be more actively endangered or violent. However, I do think that you cannot possibly control these protests that you suggest. I also think that there are people who could negatively impact our cause by going overboard at these protests. Dressing well and obtaining permits doesn’t guarantee anything.
Also, what exactly would they be protesting? What would the goal be?
Here’s What I Think Would Work
If you really want to embarrass the Journal News, all it would take is one photo showing an armed security guard protecting the building, escorting employees to their cars, etc.
Or, better yet, a photo of an armed security protecting one of the Journal News’ head mucky-mucks, such as president and publisher Janet Hasson.
Let’s see a clear image of the paper packing heat when it comes to its own.
Journal News purpose of list.
While I do agree with what you have written regarding the Journal News, more is needed. It is time to take it to the “regular employees” of the Journal News. After all, they are the backbone of the company. Without the “regular employees”, the company can not exist. It is time for management to understand that the employees are needed for the success of the Journal News. If the management does things that harm the brand, the regular employees must speak out against management.
Now is the time for regular employees to speak out against management. Now is the time for regular employees to tell management that they believe in the company that they work for, but not the people they work for.
Respectfully,
John S.
Columbus,OH
You’d be surprised what the JN will do to their employees…
if they speak out. Under threat of firing or bad ratings or other, JN employees (especially in this financial environment) can be made to fear for their employment and there you have the “then they came for me” mentality.
I’d be very surprised if the regular, good JN employees spoke out on behalf of those whose privacy was invaded. I am NOT surprised to see the lurking cowards playing the corporate (possibly paid 30 pieces of silver to do so) apologists for Gannett and its rag the JN on this board.
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It won’t be today, but I am preparing to fire up the word processor, load in the list of advertisers and print out a letter – that will be delivered SNAIL MAIL. There’s something about the (minuscule) extra time and expense that tells the recipient you aren’t making a hollow threat.
Figure it will take me about 1 hour and $10 in stamps and envelopes to send to the 20 that practice in my state.
Journal News Rag
Refreshing to know there are a few free thinking and conservative people up in the Northeast that realize the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owners are rational, law abiding people, who work for what they have, and are willing to protect it if the need ever arises. Sadly, liberal robots, such as the publishers of the publication in question, are incredibly self righteous and seem to spend all their time trying to inflict their views and will on everyone else around them. Whatever happened to “live and let live” and taking ownership of your own problems and not incessantly trying to blame other people for your own bad judgement. To penalize the masses for the actions of an infinitely small number of people is unconscionable, irresponsible, and reprehensible. I always thought for someone to call themselves a journalist, they would be committed to reporting only facts to be written down and reported to the reader for him/her to form thei own opinion. Obviously these people have no idea of the function they should be performing. Their publication is merely a fabrication of their own opinions and a blatant effort to jerk each other off. Remember when Geithner said “never let a good disaster go to waste”. It seems these people of “Journal Views” are faithful disciples of his.
A few?
Don’t judge the Northeast by the POS rag that is the JN.
The POS rag that is the JN messed with the wrong people, they expected the law abiding citizens of NY to just roll over while they perpetrated their PR BS to increase their eyeballs (as if anyone would PAY for their online BS articles) or subscriptions (happily it had the opposite effect, the word is out – CANCEL YOUR JOURNAL NEWS POS!).
Wrong,JN employees cowering here under anonymous ids and under your desks at Gannett headquarters.
This won’t end until you shut down your filthy invasion of privacy map, you DBs.
Names ON Comments ?
How do You Do That , All I See is “Subject” , and “Comment” , but NO Place for Your Real , or E-Mail Acct. , Please Advise on How to , I Am Fearless When I Am Right ,…..And Wrong TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
Just Don’t Tell Ma , She Gets Riled Easy , I Have Gone “You Tube” with Her Neurosis’ , but To No Avail , Too Much Sugar in The “Liquid Cornbread” I’m A Thinkin !
Also On Another Note , A New “Lawdog” Chief of Police Over in Alabama ,……Tried to Get Folks To Turn in “Un-Registered”Handguns of All Kinds , and He Was Gonna Have Them Melted into Manhole Covers , and Monkey bars for Playgrounds , Cept One Thing , The Manhole Covers Got Stole By His Cousin at The Smelter Plant in Ga. , Some Guy Huh ?
Turns out they are worth more than the junk guns that were comin in .
Both Men are Now Improvin the Roads Down Here , Not By Choice
Don’t penalize the masses?!
Isn’t that exactly what this website is doing? “Punishing” (your term) Journal News employees who had nothing to do with the writing or publication of this article and map!
I am calling advertisers
I am calling advertisers starting tomorrow and letting them know I am going to their competition because they advertise with a Gannett publication. Good Bye Ace Hardware, good bye Lowes and Hello Home Depot!
Tora! Tora! Tora!
“I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.”
“Pearl Harbor” Revelation !
From : Cap’n Bubba , Bayou Tesh , LA.
Yeah , That Japanese Admiral who Said That was One of The Smarter one’s in WW-2 , He Knew The Power of The “American People” , Once Riled Like a Hibernating Bear ,……..Now Where’s My Dinner for All My Trouble of YOU Wakin Me Up ? ……………..YOU’LL DO FOR NOW !
Don’t Mess With The U.S .
Cap’n Bubba Again , It is Great What YOU Have Done .
Think about it , I Understand why Bob has done this , because I May , No ,….Would Have done the Same Thing , but a Lot Worse .
You , All Who have commented most likely are in the Near abouts the Area where This “Cage Droppin Catcher” is Printed , and This Being about “Legal’ Guns as a Base subject , and The “Elitist” Attitude this Rag , and The Snoutee Way they Think , I Know if That were an Article about Gay , or a Religious thing 20 years ago , My response would have been “Jack Mad Dog Nasty” , but for Your info , Down Here , and Most Places else , The Ads Would have been pulled on Day One , Hit Em in The Pockets ,………….Hit Somebody in The Pockets , and it hurts Worse Than a Broken Jaw , so Good Luck , and Bless You All for Stickin Up For People Who You May NOT Agree with , but Defend Their “Legal” Right To Have Privacy , and Liberty !
You Will Have To Face This Again with This Prez , on Some Other Topic , so be Warned , and Stick Together .
The Greatest of ALL Liars was Who ?
He May be in The White House , and Not just in “The Holy Bible” !
The Cap’n .
Statistics
This seems to struck a tooth root with a lot of Americans who value the bill of rights.
It would be interesting if everyone who posts could include: Pro gun or Anti gun
Own gun or No gun
I’ll bet a lot of people who are usually anti gun are ticked by this little stunt.
Cap’n Bubba’s Gatuh Camp LLC
Yes We in Terrebone Parish are Required BY LAW To Own at Least 2- Handguns , 2-Shotguns , and 2-of Anything That Will Kill a Burglars Getaway car in LESS Than “One Minute” !
So Yeah ,……..Put Me Down for the “Legal Limit” !
Just because we don’t agree doesn’t mean you can write me off…
I’mpPro-gun, own a gun (or two), don’t think this is doing anything except making all gun owners look as bad as the JN scum.
Thank you!!!
Our Mother is on that list. Thanks for all your hard work. We must fight them all the way until that map is taken down. xoxoxoxo
AMAZON.COM
We , Our Family Buy Most of our Durable Household , Sporting , and General STUFF On “Amazon.com , so if That helps , I Just Noticed the Note .
The Cap’n Bubba , Bayou Tesh , LA.
and don’t forget , C’MON DOWN , NO SNOW HERE !
Another way to expose Lohud reporters…
I don’t know if anyone has suggested this. But since much personal info has already been obtained about the Lohud personnel, here’s an additional way to “up the ante”. Search police records on their employees. Find out who has been arrested for a DUI or any other reason and make that info public. That’ll fix ’em.
Drunken Liberals ? Really ?
Do You Mean To Suggest That A “Socially Responsible” Liberal , OR Politician , Teacher , or Anyone That is in a Position of Responsibility Would Get Drunk , And Then DRIVE ?
That is Impossible , Ain’t it ,…..I Mean They Took an Oath to Their “Social Conscience” to Act Always in a Responsible Manner , and if We were to Put ANY Stock in That , we May even Find Out That One , or Two have been Convicted of Child Molestation or Some other Hideous Thing !
Cast The First Stone All The Time Don’t They ?
ANOTHER WAY-AGREE FIGHT FIRE WITH MORE FIRE
Perhaps publishing this sort of information will hit home with this newspaper-would the reporter want al his private stuff out there for the public? I think NOT.
Cap’n Bubba (USMC ret.) Again !
You R Absolutely Right , I Do NOT Know What Part Of it They Don’t Get ?
It Says “Shall Not” , and not “Should Not” , Hows That Again They Say , We’re Lawyers , and Don’t Recall , and Who in The 90’s Made That Phrase Famous ?
“Queen Hilary” , Named For “Sir Edmund ” , She Said , but Later Recanted !
Feinstein Belongs in “Californica” , and That Should Not Be Infringed !
C’Mon Down to Our Gator Camp , Ain’t No Fightin Here !Just a Little “Free Speech ” !
Get This Out There!
sam colt Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
December 30th, 2012 at 7:29 am
GET THIS OUT THERE!!!
• The Dick Act of 1902 clearly “prohibits” politicians or others from confiscation of firearms of any type
• What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t these mental midgets like Diane Frankenstein GET THIS OUT THERE!!!
• The Dick Act of 1902 clearly “prohibits” politicians or others from confiscation of firearms of any type
• What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t these mental midgets like Diane Frankenstein understand.
MOLON LABE or Μολὼν λαβέ,! “Come and receive them!”
• Lets get some signatures on this petition to the White house:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-any-act-against-second-amendment-grounds-treason/LDkCNHD0
And
• Sign this Petition: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:
Try Senator Dianne Feinstein in a Federal Court For Treason To The Constitution:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/try-senator-dianne-feinstein-federal-court-treason-constitution/TVq4dXPg
Keeo the pressure on these low lifes
Mr. Cox,
Fantastic job on providing the advertisers. Maybe a little financial pressure and they will relent or fold up, either option sounds good.
Updates to Map Story
This article has been updated with…
1. The exchange of letters between the Journal News and the Putnam County Clerk showing exactly what the Journal News was seeking to create — a map show the location of every licensed handgun in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties. It should be clear they were NOT seeking to create just a map of pistol permit holders but could not get the information they wanted fast enough (they will eventually get it).
2. My answers to questions from a Reuters (and former Journal News) reporter which were left out of the story that ultimately ran. She did manage to run a quote from an “objective” professor who was displeased that I, along with others, had taken what could have been a high-minded discussion on “gun control” and put it into the gutter by being “childish and petulant”. See how that works? If you create a Google Map based on public records of people who own guns that is a high-minded discussion on “gun control” but if you create a Google Map based on public records of people who created the map in the first place that is “rolling in the gutter”. Apparently the only high-minded discussion is one in which the issue comes pre-framed from the left and takes place with rules of engagement established by the left. If you refuse to play by their rules then you are “petulant”. The professor might have noted that the Journal News map was presented without context other than that supposedly people were curious to know because they were afraid after the Newtown shooting thus correlating legal gun ownership with the murderous actions of a sociopath.
Note that Noreen O’Donnell worked at the Journal News for many years up until recently but does not bother to mention that either in her emails to me or in the Reuters article. Would it have any bearing on the story that the author has close personal relationships with many of the people working at the Journal News today?
3. A list of national and local advertisers of the Journal News compiled by the Westchester County Firearm Owners Association. They want members and supporters to write to these companies and express their disapproval of the Journal News map and engage in a boycott of these advertisers until their pull their ads from the Journal News or the Journal News pulls their map.
gun owner list
It would be interesting to obtain the list the journal got and compare it to the one they published to see if they “scrubbed” the list for family,friends, neighbors, VIP’s and possibly themselves.
Same
This is an excellent point made. I would be very interested to see if this did happen.
FOIL the FOIL
I have already made this FOIL request (see above) and will run the exact comparison you suggest ASAP.
Keep the Faith
Robert,
Nice work. But are you going to update the names, addresses, phone numbers and other information pertaining to Journal News employees?
If you do a little scrolling down, you’ll see that there have been numerous such posts in recent days, providing everything from home addresses to Facebook accounts. However, your master list of Journal News employees doesn’t reflect those grassroots efforts of your readers.
Speaking of your master list, FYI: The Facebook address you list for Frank A. Becerra Jr. is actually the Facebook address of Johnathan Bandler. Good luck!
Keep the Faith
Robert,
Nice work. But are you going to update the names, addresses, phone numbers and other information pertaining to Journal News employees?
If you do a little scrolling down, you’ll see that there have been numerous such posts in recent days, providing everything from home addresses to Facebook accounts. However, your master list of Journal News employees doesn’t reflect those grassroots efforts of your readers.
Speaking of your master list, FYI: The Facebook address you list for Frank A. Becerra Jr. is actually the Facebook address of Johnathan Bandler. Good luck!
good catch
It is a lot of work, lots of cutting and pasting. I fixed the error on Becerra. Thanks.
In addition to comments I have hundreds of emails and many containing records from readers. I did not even realize people were posting info in the comments like that.
Recall that I need to then fact-check the tips I get. It has gotten a bit overwhelming
I will work my way though the comments ASAP.
The Cap’n Again , Won’t Keep squawkin !
remember it was the “economy” , and not guns that you were hot on in the past election ?
who has turned your attention away from your wallets ? one nut with a stolen gun ?
gonna let one nut run your way o’ life ?
the people who want you to fail , your enemy , is a watchin , and a waitin !
who is that , your neighbor ?
no , he was elected , and works with the papers who got you scared of each other !
don’t bring it down here !
The North is at it Again , From Cap’n Bubba , Bayou Tesh , LA.
The People Not “Folks” like the Prez Sez have been Fine in The South with all this Gun , and “Assault Gun” Bans , and More crime as a Result of More guns , and who can have em .
With All Your Bickering against Protecting yourselves ,and Who can or can’t , You All Have forgot One Big Thing , and that is We Don’t Care Who Has a Gun , But When Anybody “Personally Does a Wrong aven with a BB Gun , We Take that Person , and Make Them Pay , and Not Their Neighbors !
it Seems that With All The Other Rights , And Money You Are Losing Everyday , You Should Care More About What You ALL Said Was The MOST Important Thing in The World To You , Before All This Noise From The Left , And Think About a House Divided , And Don’t Think Your Enemies Don’t See It , We Do , And We Do NOT Let That Happen Here in Terrebone Parish , or Most Places South of D.C. !
Wake UP , And Work Together or it’s ALL Gone to China !
Bubba St.Jaques , (Cap’n Bubba’s Gator Guides”)Bayou Tesh , Terrebone Parish , LA>
Liberal Press is now Yellow Journalism
Liberal press is now propaganda machine for the agenda . .twisting and distorting issues and harming law abiding citizens along the way!
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How to Find Journal News Employees
Good suggestions. And sometimes the Journal News itself is a treasure trove of biographical information about its own employees.
For instance, if you’re looking for reporter Jane Lerner, her helpful employer says she “covers the health and hospitals beat for The Journal News in Rockland (County) … She has a master’s degree from the Graduate School of Journalism at Columbia University, where she completed a concentration in health and science writing. She lives in Rockland (County)…”
Well, that narrows it down. We could look through the online property records in Rockland County, New York, but let’s see what we can find from the usual telephone number search engines. Hmmm … http://www.switchboard.com comes up with four listings of a Jane Lerner, two at the same address. But does any of them have an address in Rockland County? Not the one in East Rockaway, and not the one in Brooklyn, but the one with the two listings lives in New City … which just happens to be in Rockland County.
But is this the same Jane Lerner who works at the Journal News? Well, if you do a reverse lookup on Switchboard, you’ll notice that the New City address comes back to a Jane Lerner (twice), a Jane Langer and another person named Langer.
Hmmm … so what happens if we Google “Jane Lerner Langer” and “Columbia Journalism School”? Bingo — we find that there’s a Fall 2009 PDF from The Journalism School at Columbia University … and on Page 10, listed among its annual donors, is a “Jane Lerner Langer, Class of 1986.”
Now let’s see what Facebook brings. Why, lookee there — a Jane Lerner who lives in New City, New York. And among her Likes are three articles from the Journal News website LoHud.com and a fourth from the New Yorker titled — wait for it! — “Newtown and the Madness of Guns.”
https://www.facebook.com/jane.lerner1?ref=ts&fref=ts
Sounds like we’ve located our Lois Lane, who’s listed on Switchboard as:
Jane Langer
1 Tilda Ln
New City, NY 10956
(845) 634-3512
Jane Lerner
1 Tilda Ln
New City, NY 10956
(845) 634-1818
Jane Lerner
1 Tilda Ln
New City, NY 10956
(845) 634-3219
Gotta love that “legally obtained public information” — right, Journal News?
free of charge/no pay/no trial
The personal searches on individuals are not free. Just a FYI … when you misspell ‘TRIAL’ as ‘TRAIL’ that should be a real red-flag as to the credibility of the poster who posted this information.
How do we organize
I want to not only shine a light on the hypocracy of the journalist that did this, but join a real grassroots effort to push back on the media in general. We need to make Occupy Wall Street look like a backyard marshmellow roast. We have the numbers. We have the technolgy. We can go around these bozo’s.
If Anonymous is really the organization they say that they are, they need to step up to the plate for once and protect the one right that protects the rest.
For the rest of us, are we prepared to engage in protests, civil disobedience, etc… ?
This is bigger that simply gun rights. This is THE make or break moment for the nation.
civil disobedience
civil disobedience is not the way to go. JN has made their move, we just have to sit back and wait for a violent stalker to find a hidden victim that needed to get a gun for protection and the stalker attack them based on the info provided by JN. Only then will the law bring down a large financial judgment that will truly hurt their pocket. Sounds crude, however sometimes we have to wait for things to play out. Unfortunately the wheels of laws turn slowly and it will take several attacks due to what info JN provided until the law changes.
Lawsuits are coming !!!
Can’t wait to see the first lawsuit by a homeowner whose home was burglarized based in part on the information published by The journal news.
Lawsuits are coming !!!
Can’t wait to see the first lawsuit by a homeowner whose home was burglarized based in part on the information published by The journal news.
Laura Incalcaterra
If you’re still looking for Journal News employees’ home addresses, various sites list the home address of reporter Laura Incalcaterra as 78 Regina Road, Airmont, NY 10952 … sometimes listed as Monsey, NY.
Largest Fund holders of Gannett, the owner of “Journal Review”
If you have investments in any of these funds you are supporting the gun grabbers…These are the largest fund investors in Gannett Co. the owner of “Journal News”
Holder
VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE)
AllianceBernstein, L.P.
Ariel Investments, LLC
LSV ASSET MANAGEMENT
STATE STREET CORPORATION
BlackRock Institutional Trust Company, N.A.
Bank of New York Mellon Corporation
JP MORGAN CHASE & COMPANY
Contrarius Investment Management Limited
SPRUCEGROVE INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT LTD
Top Mutual Fund Holders
Holder
Aston/Fairpointe Mid Cap Fund
ARIEL FUND
VANGUARD TOTAL STOCK MARKET INDEX FUND
VANGUARD MID-CAP INDEX FUND
JP MORGAN MID CAP VALUE FUND
ARIEL APPRECIATION FUND
VANGUARD 500 INDEX FUND
VANGUARD INSTITUTIONAL INDEX FUND-INSTITUTIONAL INDEX FD
SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust
JNL Series Trust-JNL/S&P Intrinsic Value Fund
Arrest, Felony, Misdemeanor Records of Gannett Employees
It would be a terrible abuse of publicly available information if someone were to use InstantCheckMate.com or a similar service to obtain and publish all the publicly available court records of Gannett News executives, directors, and employees who have ever had a DUI, been arrested, or fallen on the wrong side of the law in any way. That would be a terrible abuse of such information.
fenfab
We need to go after the advertisers of this paper and Gannett. Publish the names, addresses, phone number of the main advertisers and you will see quick action from LoHud.
Done
Done. Scroll up.
Who really owns “The Journal News”
Gannett is the head of the Snake, “The Journal News” is only the tail and possibly Gannett’s “Sacrificial Lamb”… Need to cut off the head to kill a Snake … Gannett owns newspapers across the country (Gannett Company, Inc. is a publicly traded ( Under symbol GCI on NYSE) media holding company headquartered in Tysons Corner, Virginia, near McLean. It is the largest U.S. newspaper publisher as measured by total daily circulation. Its assets include the national newspaper USA Today and the weekly USA Weekend. Its largest non-national newspaper is The Arizona Republic in Phoenix, Arizona. Other significant newspapers include The Indianapolis Star, The Cincinnati Enquirer, The Tennessean in Nashville, Tennessee, The Courier-Journal in Louisville, Kentucky, the Democrat and Chronicle in Rochester, NY, The Des Moines Register, the Detroit Free Press and The News-Press in Fort Myers. Gannett owns 23 television stations through Gannett Broadcasting Inc.[4] and is the largest group owner of NBC-affiliated stations (all Liberal). Gannett also holds substantial properties in digital media including PointRoll, BNQT Media Group,[6] Planet Discover,[7] Ripple6[8] and ShopLocal through Gannett Digital. …Go after every one of these. If you subscribe to one cancel your subscription and tell them why you are canceling. Let advertisers in these rags know you will boycott their stores. If you own stock sell it, if your pension fund has stock in Gannett ask that it be sold.
CEO of the parent company is
Gannett CEO
Gracia C Martore
728 Springvale Rd
Great Falls, VA 22066
(703) 759 5954
728 Springvale Rd
Values History
Tax Year Land Building Assessed Total Tax Exempt
2012 $470,000 $508,490 $978,490 NO
2011 $470,000 $572,190 $1,042,190 NO
2010 $517,000 $619,420 $1,136,420 NO
2009 $537,000 $673,120 $1,210,120 NO
2008 $565,000 $764,340 $1,329,340 NO
2007 $511,000 $854,120 $1,365,120 NO
2006 $511,000 $899,070 $1,410,070 NO
2005 $492,000 $599,380 $1,091,380 NO
2004 $385,000 $599,375 $984,375 NO
2003 $310,000 $572,245 $882,245 NO
2002 $205,900 $572,245 $778,145 NO
2001 $205,900 $476,685 $682,585 NO
2000 $205,900 $383,250 $589,150 NO
Strange Voice on machine ?
Called that # yesterday , and The Computer from Star Trek Took my message , I might have done a Captain Kirk Computer Killer episode on it though ?
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We’ve got a lot of the work done for you but if you’re interested, fire us over an email to exposegannett@gmail.com with information you find on national or local folks across the country. We’ll check it out and get it up online.
Gee…
…it’d be a terrible thing if some criminal types cross-referenced the addresses of the Journal employees with the Journal’s map of gun permit holders and found out which houses are unlikely to be protected. I hope that doesn’t happen.
Cross Reference
The point to cross reference is to find out if JN posted 100% of all information or if they filtered it. The freedom of speech should not be filtered for their (JN) own good. Either post 100% of the information or don’t post any information. It is not intended to show who in JN is not protected, only to prove they did not provided the entire story, which the lack of information is a means of a civil court to determine what they should be financially punished.
Print All addresses
All Jounalist names and addresses should be printed. Enough of this double standard! I’m gussing you are coordinating with Chris Fountain’s website. He had jounalist names who lived as far away as Virginia.
Cross reference
If your comment is at me, no I’m not coordinating with Chris Fountain’s website. My agenda is gun information should not be publishable information, David Gregory with Meet the Press should be arrested for willfully and knowingly violating local gun law by possessing a high capacity magazine ( he promotes stronger gun laws however feels he is above current gun laws and the President is going to be on his show with David Gregory on Sunday even after Meet the Press stated that David Gregory was on vacation for the week) , and the laws need to come in line with the time of the internet.
Journal trampling on right?
I’m wondering if this rebuttal could be made to happen… use FOIA to detail a list of all misdemeanor and felony driving offenses committed by any employee of that rag. Believe that’s all fair game in the public disclosure world. Buy a billboard near the newspaper, with names addresses and charges proudly displayed. That would not have the reach of the newspaper, but should create
some disgruntled employees. Last I can recall, poorly operated vehicles are still killing more people than firearms in the U.S. Yes I will help pay for it.
George Y. (Sacramento)
Donation
There is a donation link above.
Journal is trampling on rights.
You don’t even need to FOIA anyone. Just plunk down a few bucks for a membership to a background check site such as InstantCheckMate.com and you might be able to get that information. What you do with the information is your responsibility.
Enforce the law
Wow, what is going wrong? Meet the press David Gregory willfully and knowingly violated local gun laws by possessing a high capacity magazine. Now the President is appearing on the show with this criminal on Sunday.
Thumbs Down
My point is that there are current gun laws that need to be enforced; we don’t need more gun laws.
The “Urinal” News
Senator Greg Ball said it best in a recent email:
“As many of you know, The ‘Urinal’ News (new name, evidently) recently revealed the addresses of homeowners with pistol permits in Westchester and Rockland Counties,”
This rag is best suited to line bird cages!
permits
has anyone cross referenced the employee’s names with the permit list?
permits
Has anyone run any commercially available background checks on any of the Journal News employees? InstantCheckMate.com is one option. I’m sure other, similar services are out there.
Listing employees addreses
So not only did they pinpoint which homes are not protected for criminals. They also just gave criminals a road map to homes that have firearms that they can rob to get a gun. Another shining day for left wing media. This site is awesome in that in today’s world so many people do things with no accountability in mind.Mainstream media which is longer unbiased but horribly left prints or shows what they will to further the lefts agenda. Thankfully sites like this take the guess work out of who’s who. It’s good to know where I can send mail to express my discontent with journalists in a more personal way. Not through emails or blogs etc… Thank you and well done.
Employee addresses? Really?
If your goal is truly to have a place where you can “send mail to express my discontent with journalists in a more personal way,” you don’t need their home addresses. You can send your cards and letters to them at the Journal News, whose White Plains address is no secret. And, because Journal News journalists, unlike those of us posting on this board, put their names on the stories that appear online, you can email them simply by clicking their names. So, Mr. Anonymous, did you really not know this, or do you have something else in mind?
1st amendment
If the Journal news thinks they can mess with the second amendment then perhaps it is time to talk about changing the first amendment. The founding fathers could never have imagined the media we have today.The media is out of control and most likely promotes massacres with their ridiculous coverage of these incidents making the killers infamous and giving them exactly what these murderers want. To bring attention to themselves and to make society pay for their suffering. The media gladly spreads their message around the world, giving others the same idea. The media also promotes violence with thse ridiculous violent movies that show the unrealistic and maleovelant use of guns. The media is partly responsible for these shootings and yet will not accept any blame at all. It appears the first amendment will need to be altered to stop propaganda machines like the News Journal from spreading their message of hate and intolerance and bigotry. They have endangered the lives of police officers, abused women and more. Also, the names and addresses of permit holders shuld have never been released. I would think that there should have been a confidentiality and privacy clause within the permit that only law enforcement could get a hold of that information. The laws there may need to be changed.
It’s gone beyond international
This matter just made it to Wikipedia.
Check the article on The Journal News. It’s under “controversies”. If you check the history, the posting has been expanded twice by two different people.
Wikipedia
Not sure how long that will last but here is the link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Journal_News#Controversy
Good for you, Bob, you’ve made history…
or history such as it is on Wikipedia, which is at the very least the full set Encyclopedia Britannica of modern America. It is indeed an honor to be noted there, I commend you.
As to the gutless filthy cowards (and the employees who post here without registering) who are rushing to scrub their Twitter accounts and Facebook notations, how excellent that you have the enemy on the run.
They can dish it out, but they cannot take it, eh?
Too bad there isn’t enough pressure on the enemy to take down the map.
Perhaps in 2013, here’s hoping that the JN goes out of business.
Gun Permit Map
I notice that the Journalism Professor indicated that the comments and reply of this site were not responsible but failed to mention that the journalists and editors of the paper needlessly endangered INNOCENT FAMILY MEMBERS, but I guess that is Okay. Wonder where journalist get their moral and arrogant social values. What should have been done is post names,work place, schools, bus route and number, of staff and family.Let’s see how they like it?
great website
You know you have them scared when the liberals begin posting….most sound like DemocraticUnderground members…
Why dont you liberals go back to you DemocraticUnderground message board and do your everyday bitching about george bush and leave the patriotic work to us Americans…
And from what i saw on your message board it seems the real lefties are even putting down your reasonable longtime members who own guns….you do know the NRA has a higher approval than Obama and trust that he knows that also which is why your main man aint gonna do as much on this as you dream he will..
Scared of what? Gun owners
Scared of what? Gun owners who are too much of a pussy to admit they own guns?
You can tell you have them desperate when they have to literally tell you that you’re scared.
Guns getting into criminal hands
No I’m not scared. It is simple personal security measures. As you may have read stories about people updating their face book and telling people they are going somewhere 4 hrs away, they come home to find their house emptied out. The first part of security is controlling the information about yourself. Don’t toss an empty box for a large flat screen tv in the open for trash pickup etc. A law abiding gun owner keeps their gun owning information private so that others are not aware that there is a gun to steal. Secondly, they keep them locked up. However when someone knows you have a gun they want to steal, all they have to do is wait until you leave for a period of time and steal the safe. JN posting of this information just took away one security measure to protect guns from getting into criminal hands.
Scared
Typical of a very ignorant person who has no clue how things really work. I hope you get what you need to educate yourself!
gun owners
You my friend are apparently the typical liberal
anti gun nut. I live in the free part of Washington State ( the east part) and am a holder of a CWP permit and a retired law enforcement officer, I just hope that the first person injured
or killed ,their family will sue the rag for every
penny they have, this is still a free country and anyone desiring to own a firearm being able to pass the back ground have that right. And by the way I am not scared but be careful as I am armed.
interesting
it is a very bold statement to release the names of gun owners. As if the gun owner is someone that should be be feared. Perhaps this article will level the playing field a bit and help others see what it is like to have their own personal information spread on public media sites.
I did not see in the article whether or not any of those listed had gun permits. Would be interested to know that..
interesting
gun owner permit just listed persons with permits not whether they had guns. Newspaper could not list who had guns because MOST CRIMINALS DO NOT REGISTER FOR PERMITS.
Registration
Heck. I challenge anyone to name one criminal who registered their weapons.
I challenge anyone to identify one incident where weapon registration prevented a crime.
in re to interesting
Personally, I’d rather know which DUI journalists live in the neighborhood so that I’m not on the street when they’re drinking and driving. Commercial background checks make such publicly available information easy to research, but posting that information would be a terrible abuse–possibly even a crime. So, I guess we won’t ever know which Journal News employees have any criminal record of any sort.
Personal Information
I think we need to make these people pay even more of a price. I would like to start seeing, in the name of fair journalism from a private persons perspective, more personal data given to the public on these people who think they are entitled to push their liberal agenda’s and lies and think they can just hide behind the idea that they are “journalist” so it entitles them to be able to say anything they want with no consequences. How about we start getting into their private lives, posting their extra marital affairs, arrest records, and their past indiscretions? I’d like to have their family members posted and their privacy ruined like they do others. In the name of “fairness” it’s time the public makes the media members have to play by the same rules. Maybe now they will start to be more civil?
Personal Information
Oh, God bless you. The public does deserve to know exactly who the people that influence us are. The media has destroyed every successful person and hero in modern society. The only persons they seem to admire are Hollywood and the very wealthy (if they are libs, married their money, inherited it from daddy – or has the last name Kennedy.
The media consider themselves part of their own definition of “the elite, the masterminds, the ones who have all the answers for the unwashed masses.”
re Personal Information
Commercial websites that provide background checks could help you with that. But posting or publishing such information would be an abuse of publicly available information–possibly even a crime. If you pay for such a service, then you are responsible for what you do with the information.
Personal Information
I think we need to make these people pay even more of a price. I would like to start seeing, in the name of fair jounalism from a private persons perspective, more personal data given to the public on these people who think they are entitled to push their liberal agenda’s and lies and think they can just hide behind the idea that they are “journalist” so it entitles them to be able to say anything they want with no consequences. How about we start getting into their private lives, posting their extra marital affairs, arrest records, and their past indiscretions? I’d like to have their family members posted and their privacy ruined like they do others. In the name of “fairness” it’s time the public makes the media members have to play by the same rules. Maybe now they will start to be more civil?
Its about time…
that someone has the guts to fight back. The lefties can’t take a punch without whining and crying.
Apparently, neither can the
Apparently, neither can the “righties” or “conservatards” or whatever other ignorant disgrace to the English language you morons have come up with.
Lefties
Speaking as someone who attended Berkeley and regularly cruised Telegraph Ave and the Haight:
Lefties can’t take a punch.
Let’s identify Journal News advertisers
I love the idea of calling out Journal News advertisers by name.
I see several of them on the Journal News website, so I suggest emailing, calling and/or boycotting them until they cancel their ads in the Journal News:
Timberland (shop.timberland.com) — They even have a survey you can take.
Cross County Shopping Center (www.crosscountycenter.com)
Coldwell Banker (coldwellbankermoves.com)
Westchester Community College, SUNY, Ossining Extension Center (http://www.sunywcc.edu/extension_sites/locations/ossining/ossining.htm)
U.S. Baseball Academy (www.usbaseballacademy.com)
DealChicken (www.dealchicken.com)
Keiser University (www.KeiserUniversity.edu)
AT&T U-verse (http://savings.att.com/)
CareerBuilding (www.CareerBuilder.com)
eHarmony (www.eHarmony.com)
HomeGain (www.homegain.com)
ShopLocal (www.shoplocal.com)
Apartments.com
HomeFinder (www.homefinder.com)
Cars.com
LowerMyBills.com
DealChicken (dealchicken.com)
Thank you!
I’m off to Twitter to ‘follow’ every one of these advertisers and sent them tweet after tweet after tweet – and I suggest you do the same.
If you don’t like Twitter, ‘like’ them on Facebook and send them a note.
If you don’t like either of the above, send them an email.
Remember, the BEST place to hit the rag that is the JN is in the pocketbook.
Let’s put them out of business. Oh, and to the JN employees posting here — BOOOOO!
And then you’ll get blocked
And then you’ll get blocked after the first or second and they’ll never have to read the rantings of an ignorant conservative again.
Great plan!
Hmm
Gee, somebody’s sounding nervous.
Obviously, if this blog wasn’t having any impact, people like you wouldn’t bother posting here … repeatedly.
You said it…just by virtue of the fact that it’s VERY…
difficult to get into the site ‘and’ the multiple posts, proves that this site is getting all KINDS of traffic today.
Excellent.
Keep it up folks, and don’t forget the power of the social media.
Let’s put the rag that is the JN out of business.
Hmm
Gee, somebody’s sounding nervous.
Obviously, if this blog wasn’t having any impact, people like you wouldn’t bother posting here … repeatedly.
But if it makes you feel better, your futile attempts to discourage us are cute.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA………
so the rag that is the JN has been flooded with negative tweets before, dear little JN employee?
Don’t forget, if I’m blocked, there are thousands more behind me.
Lookie look, folks, we have the rag that is the JN sweating!
Let’s hit Hitler where it hurts, folks. Take up the social media blitz, and let’s put the rag that is the JN out of business.
Nighty night, JN!
This is entertainment you can’t buy!
Don’t you love seeing the Journal News chihuahuas whining and scratching themselves raw — right in front of us, no less?
Just imagine what will happen when subscribers cancel and advertisers bolt.
I mean, Journal News staffers were already doing an excellent job of putting their circulation in free fall. How much worse will it be when they have help??
I sure do love seeing FOX
I sure do love seeing FOX News chihuahuas whining about how pathetic they are now that people actually know they have a gun!
Funny how their argument just a few weeks ago was that everyone needed a gun, yet now they’re too ashamed to even admit they have one. LOL
Still yapping?
Again, if publishing the addresses, phone numbers and other personal information has had no impact on the Journal News, why are you spending hours of your Saturday posting here?
Either you’re all ferklempt about it because it involves you or someone you know … or you’re just a freelance troll in search of attention. Take your pick.
Ain’t it a hoot?
IF they had the cojones, they would identify themselves as:
Anonymous JN Employee #1 and Anonymous JN Employee #2………..but they don’t!
–The JN publishing the names and addresses of legal gun owners……..gutless.
–TOTS publishing the names and addresses of the gutless JN employees……..excellent.
–The JN employees spamming TOTS with their cowardly gutless Anonymous posts………….PRICELESS!!!!
HAHAHAHA. Sure thing,
HAHAHAHA. Sure thing, “NewRochelleUSED.”
I’m guessing that’s your real name?
-Bob posting JN employee information: Excellent
-Bob’s information being posted: “WAHHH THIS IS WRONG. WAHHHHHHHHHH”
Priceless!
The real hoot
What I love is reading the denials — “I don’t work for the Journal News or care anything about that paper.”
They also seem obsessed with criticizing Fox News. But I guess that makes sense. It must hurt to see a successful media outlet when you work for a newspaper that’s shrinking faster than a pair of cheap jeans in the dryer.
I love reading the denials,
I love reading the denials, too. “YOU HAVE TO WORK FOR JOURNAL NEWS BECAUSE I SAY SO THAT’S THE ONLY WAY I’M RIGHT.”
It’s pretty sad, and shows you have no argument to begin with. That’s not surprising, though. FOX News told me there would be a Romney landslide. What happened to that? 🙁
No, I’m just not 12.. or too
No, I’m just not 12.. or too old to understand how Twitter works.
LOL
Ooooooooo, ouch……..bet you thought that was a good…
comeback? Sorry, darling Anonymous JN Employee #5, I know EXACTLY how Twitter works and I haven’t been blocked yet.
Try again, dearie, maybe you can convince some other Anonymous JN Employee – perhaps #6? – that you should get more than thirty pieces of silver for your betrayal of all those LEGAL gun owners?
Come on, folks, it’s obviously working, let’s hit Hitler where he lives and put the rag that is the JN out of business.
You clearly don’t,
You clearly don’t, NewRochelleUSED. Nice name, by the way!
Good luck putting them out of business. Next, you’ll be shooting up their office because you realized that no one seems to care but your own lunatic fringe. You know, the same one that sure helped that “ROMNEY LANDSLIDE” back in November.
Oh.. wait.
You’re so right
How could any outsider put the Journal News out of business when it’s doing such a great job of putting itself out of business?
SCOREBOARD:
2006 circulation: 144,000
2012 circulation: 70,000 daily, 96,000 Sunday
No sense getting in the way of a suicide … stand clear of that carbon monoxide, folks!
Again excellent, Anonymous…
I tweeted all the advertisers noted (keep ’em coming) and with the exception of ‘lower my bills’ (a shyster no doubt) and Cross County (still in the 1940s, probably, even with the remodel), all the others were on Twitter.
Note: ‘shop local’ is a Gannett company, so their advertising is incestuous.
I will keep reminding them all that Twitter is a powerful tool to take advertising away from them – you should do the same.
Together we can put the rag that is the JN out of business.
Needs a bump back up to the
Needs a bump back up to the top!
Yawn
When you have to resort to posting old news, it means you’re out of creative ideas.
Thanks for confirming it.
LOL. Sure thing. If it were
LOL. Sure thing. If it were such old news, Bob wouldn’t have to keep removing it.
Thanks for confirming it.
Which cowardly gutless JN employee on the list are you?
Is the JN paying you extra to spam here?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????????
You have to assume that
You have to assume that everyone who disagrees with your ignorant opinion works for the JN just to convince yourself you’re right?
How sad.
Welcome, Journal News staffers!
Ah, I get it — you’re one of those Journal News staffers who can’t stomach the taste of your own medicine.
I see that the Journal News had a circulation of 144,000 in 2006 — http://www.infoplease.com/ipea/A0004420.html — but the 2012 numbers are only … oh, dear … 70,000 daily and 96,000 on Sunday.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aip0Rq2dGk1BdDN1N28zdklUUXpkNlZ0bzlabkJpdlE#gid=1
Is it true that when you call the Journal News office and they put you on hold, the background music is “Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!”
So what’s it like working for a paper whose circulation declined 38%? Any more layoffs scheduled?
http://gannettblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/analysis-gci-lost-13-million-in-circ-in.html
Last one out of the Journal News, turn off the lights.
Thanks for proving my point.
Thanks for proving my point. You have to literally tell people they work for JN just to make yourself feel better. That’s kind of pathetic.
Why do you guys get so upset when Bob’s information is posted, yet you cheer when he posts others? I thought it was all fair game!
Nevermind, judging by your
Nevermind, judging by your extremely typical “na na” reference, you’re just another 50-60 year old white conservative who likely watches FOX News.
How’d that November election go for you?
Oooh
Awww … hit a nerve, did I?
You’re obviously not smart enough to realize that as the Obama economy continues to tank, it takes liberal media jobs (and liberal media, period) down with it — right, Newsweek?
I’ll spell it out: The bad news for you is, the Journal News will continue to shed circulation, advertising and employees like ballast from an ascending hot air balloon.
The good news for you is, Domino’s is hiring. Make sure mine gets here hot and I’ll tip you an extra buck.
Not at all. Apparently, I hit
Not at all. Apparently, I hit a nerve by posting Bob’s information in the first place. Otherwise, you wouldn’t still be here whining about it. LOL
The economy is doing great, and it’s hilarious that conservatives continue to deny that, even after America flat out told them they were wrong just a month ago.
I guess you’ll continue to whine yourselves into irrelevancy, though.
I don’t care about Journal News. Apparently, they have more control over you than I originally thought.
Ri-i-i-i-ight
Why, of course you don’t care about Journal News … NAHHHHHH! I’ll bet you don’t work for the paper or know anybody who does, either.
Nope, you were just browsing the Internet when you happened upon a controversy involving a newspaper that you don’t give a whit about … and suddenly you were consumed with the desire to spend a few hours here throwing spitballs from the cheap seats.
Got it!
It’s hilarious. You guys
It’s hilarious. You guys champion that it made national news, yet you seem so surprised that anyone would know about it unless they work for Journal News.
Conservatives really aren’t the brightest bunch in the group.
to: Not at all. Apparently, I hit
If the economy is doing so great, then why do we have record numbers of people on food stamps in the past three years, more potential downgrades in our national credit rating, and an entire government of childish fools who cannot find solutions to our fiscal crisis?
By the way, journalists–especially those of the mainstream establishment and those wannabes who can’t make the big leagues of the mainstream establishment–lose more and more credibility with every stunt such as the one the Journal News pulled. Most of you in your 20s and 30s wherever you are have absolutely no idea what true journalism is. Whatever the case, your college degree and your so-called profession are becoming more irrelevant with every passing day. You might want to look into whatever retraining programs the Obama Administration has cooked up for you.
An increase in population
An increase in population results in an increase in those on food stamps.
If the economy is doing so terrible, why has unemployment gone down by nearly 3% over the past three years? It’s hilarious the excuses conservatives try to make.
Labor force is shrinking
Labor force is shrinking while population is going up!
Damn those Baby Boomers!
Damn those Baby Boomers!
Not having the impact it should
http://news.yahoo.com/york-newspaper-list-more-gun-permit-holders-uproar-120534293–finance.html
Apparently the paper hasn’t learned its lesson yet so it looks as if this will need to be stepped up a notch. Might I suggest going after the money?
Contact the owners of the businesses that advertise with them. Tell them their names and addresses will be published as well unless they pull their advertising and this map may hit with more force.
I agree, which is why I asked a few posts ago…
for the names of the advertisers in the rag that is the JN.
Can’t someone look through an old issue, if need be, and post all the names of the advertisers?
A barrage of negative Tweets will do them a world of good.
Journal News advertisers – BOYCOTT!
Ask and ye shall receive:
http://www.nysrpa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=826&Itemid=186
great job
You really hit a nerve if you even have liberals posting comments here…..funny how their attitude changes when the tables are turned….I can myself vouch for the fact that Robert is being very fair about editing this list if he finds the employee does not deserve to be included…..
All you liberals need to go back to your DemocraticUnderground message board so you can keep whining about how evil george bush is…. It just fits you better than a real patriots website…
great job
You really hit a nerve if you even have liberals posting comments here…..funny how their attitude changes when the tables are turned….I can myself vouch for the fact that Robert is being very fair about editing this list if he finds the employee does not deserve to be included…..
All you liberals need to go back to your DemocratUnderground message board so you can keep whining about how evil george bush is…. It just fits you better than a real patriots website…
I’d like to see the names, ages, and schools attended…
…by their children added to the database.
Facebook addresses of Journal News staffers
Ernie Garcia:
https://www.facebook.com/ernie.garcia.777158
Robert Brum: https://www.facebook.com/robert.brum.7
Shawn Cohen: https://www.facebook.com/shawn.cohen.37
Marcela Rojas: https://www.facebook.com/mrojas3
Alexandra Hoyt, Editor at the Journal News: https://www.facebook.com/alexandra.hoyt.5
You miss one thing
How much do they make this would really irk some of the staff. Change title too.
Map: Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood and how much do they make?
That’d be tough to get
I don’t think salaries are public information when they pertain to employees of private corporations.
But do you know what IS public information? Arrest records and traffic citations, such as DWI and speeding.
Divorce records, too — which mention things like parental visitation rights pertaining to specific kids. And lawsuits, which contain all sorts of embarrassing accusations and admissions, such as “My ex-husband has a gambling and alcohol addiction.”
Then there are property records, which give specific addresses and tell how much each home is worth.
If the Journal News wants to play hardball, some industrious researcher should start digging into court records and municipal offices — you’ll be amazed at the kind of information that exists in these seldom-seen files.
The real problem
In the past (pre-internet) an individual had to go to the court house and request information, that information couldn’t be spread via the internet, so millions didn’t have the same information in a single moment. Now with a world of the internet the laws need to change; what is public accessible information and what is publishable information.
I would like to see the
I would like to see the addressed of all reporters from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, New Yor Times, etc…
I would also love to see a journalistic probe into THEIR lives.
This is wrong
I’m sorry to say this, but two wrongs don’t make a right. We can’t sit here and bitch about someone posting an article about one group of people and in an outrage do exactly the same thing. The only lesson taught here is that you have just shown yourself to be one who cannot point the finger at anyone else now.
Who published the article about gun owners?
It wasn’t all of these journalists.
The corporation, the journalist who posted the article, and all those involved in approving the article to be published should be accountable. While the corporation is responsible for its employees’ actions, the converse is not true.
This blog does nothing but prove that you are just as low as the journalist.
No sympathy for the “collateral damage”
I disagree. It’s time to stop playing nice with the people who want to push their agenda on us through intimidation.
The reality is, a lot of people whose names don’t appear on the article had something to do with it — copy editors, for example. And the way I see it, if the Journal News wants to use a shotgun approach (no pun intended) to make its point, then the only way they’re going to feel the effects of their own actions is through payment in kind.
Perhaps when Journal News staffers feel the same concern for their privacy (and that of their loved ones) that their employer has inflicted on the residents of their coverage area, they’ll complain loudly enough to their bosses to prompt an apology to the readers and a vow never to do anything like it again.
And by the way, this should also serve as a lesson to any other newspaper in America that is contemplating publishing a similar chart.
They won’t regret it, they are not being made to…
in fact, they will soon publish the names of those LEGAL gun owners in Putnam.
This isn’t going to end soon, there are morons on television stating that they are HAPPY for this map, since they can keep their children away from play dates of known LEGAL gun owners.
Sorry, people, this is not going to get better. The JN is laughing all the way to the bank, thanks to the free publicity it is getting. Politicians are not rushing to the aid of those whose privacy was invaded. Bob bravely did his best, but the JN is going to triumph in this.
I don’t have the answer on how to affect them financially, which is the only answer.
Do you?
In a way, yes
Actually, I suspect that this action by the Journal News is going to prompt a lot of people to cancel their subscriptions … not to mention advertising.
And lest anyone say, “Big deal,” I’ll show you why the Journal News can’t afford to laugh at the loss of any subscribers. Let me call your attention to a line from an article written only a year ago on GannettBlog.com:
“At The Journal News in Westchester, where circulation declined 38%, layoffs have been especially heavy, including during the last round of job cuts, in June. Also, like more than half of GCI’s papers, printing has been outsourced.”
http://gannettblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/analysis-gci-lost-13-million-in-circ-in.html
I hope that is true…
and it does make sense. If the JN is desperate enough to CHARGE people for reading articles on their garbage site lohud, they must be suffering also in their hard copy paper.
I was convinced from the get-go that this was a PR stunt, they have no more ethics than the man in the moon.
I look forward to the day they go bankrupt and close shop.
No, what this does is send
No, what this does is send the message that law abiding regular people are tired of being demonized, ridiculed, and pushed about by the self proclaimed progressive “elites”. It is a stand. It is a declaration of “enough”
This was LONG overdue.
This was LONG overdue. Journalist often consider themselves above the law, with some elevating journalism to the 4th branch of government.
The New York Times motto is “All the news that is fit to print”. And who gave them the power to determine what is “news”? They did. In their arrogance and distain for the average citizen, they consider themselves the arbitors of social justice.
The downfall of journalism was “essay journalism” as promoted by Walter Cronkite.
And this is why it matters: Most citizens don’t bother with teh finer points of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The don’t ponder the law of unintended consequences. As such, Obamacare destroys Freedom of Religion. The Patriot act destroys Freedom from Unlawful inprisonment, The FDA and EPA now have laws that remove our rights of “probable cause” and property rights.
Finally, the God of the left… the right to privacy.. only goes as far as THEIR privacy. It’s ironic that if any of the information posted by this newspaper was derived from medical records (HIPPA) the newspaper would be shut down and sued into oblivion. Yet, the same information collected maliciously, by stealing the data from a private business, is fair game.
Consequently, if that’s how they want to play it… that is our weapon. The liberal media needs to be brought to their knees. The don’t report the news anyway. They are nothing more than activists with a pen.
No, you are wrong
Change does not come about if everything is right. This is not hypercritical. The posting of the JN employee information was not of information obtained from the FOIA. It is easily accessible. If they don’t want their info posted then they should push the courts to change the laws to define what can be published in mass data on interactive maps etc. A new law needs to draw a line between public accessible info and publishable information. Who is responsible if a violent stalker finds the location of the victim and attacks the victim in hiding due to the JN map of legal gun owners?
More Facebook addresses
Here are more Facebook addresses of Journal News/Gannett employees:
Robert F. Rodriguez:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1522994678
Terence Corcoran:
https://www.facebook.com/terence.corcoran.3
Ned P. Rauch:
https://www.facebook.com/ned.rauch
Carla Young, Universal Desk Editor:
https://www.facebook.com/carla.young.980
Christopher Vaughan:
https://www.facebook.com/christopher.vaughan2
Thane Grauel
https://www.facebook.com/thaneg
Scott Faubel:
https://www.facebook.com/d.scott.faubel
Brian Tumulty:
https://www.facebook.com/brian.tumulty
C
Do Employes live in Diverse Neighborhoods ?
How many of their employees live in “diverse” communities ? I thought they are of the progressive/liberal ilk that push for “diversity” in schools and neighborhoods, so I would assume they all live in areas that follow proper distribution of home ownership between races, creed, sex, etc. No ? All live in lilly white encampments ?
Cross Reference with criminal/DUI records
Can someone please cross reference the employee list with any public criminal/DUI records that are available, and then post “The Journal News Supports Drunk Driving ?”.
Way to go!
Love it you gave them a dose of their own. I imagine someone has already said this, but has anyone else got their hands on the original lists via their own FOI and checked to see if any employees were on the list.
If there were you can bet the paper did not include them in their map.
Way to go!
Love it you gave them a dose of their own. I imagine someone has already said this, but has anyone else got their hands on the original lists via their own FOI and checked to see if any employees were on the list.
If there were you can bet the paper did not include them in their map.
How’s that medicine taste MSM? Bitter eh?
Brilliant play. They really are bullies for printing the address of gun owners, and now someone has their feelings hurt. Awww.
Wow.
I think it’s really screwed up of you to post the personal addresses of these journalists who seems to have had nothing to do with the poor decisions that the paper made. As you know, we live in a tough economy where these hard workers probably have little say in what the editors decide to publish and care very little of how their employees’ personal lives are affected. Maybe thats why you’re not hearing from them. Because their livelihood and jobs are threatened, god forbid they speak up against their bosses’ decisions. (You obviously don’t get corporate America). And even if they did, how much would you listen? It’s pretty pathetic and disgusting that someone, as yourself, would stoop so low as to encourage people to harass and threaten them and their families. Have you no shame? If someone associated with you makes a mistake, are you expected to take the blame and be put in danger? Two wrongs don’t make a right. I wouldn’t be surprised if, when things settle down, revenge is taken upon you and yours. Let’s hope it never goes there, but if I were an employee whose only crime was that I worked there, I’d be pissed beyond belief.
You’re talking to
You’re talking to conservatives. Logic and reasoning went out the door thirty years ago.
Typical …
Typical liberal tactic: When they can’t win the argument, they attack the messenger.
Are you kidding me.
They know who they work for and what that paper stands for. birds of a feather…..
They get what they give.
Right you are
Yep — kind of like saying, “I was only driving the getaway car. I had no idea what my buddy with the mask and the gun was doing inside that bank.”
You say: ‘It’s pretty
You say: ‘It’s pretty pathetic and disgusting that someone, as yourself, would stoop so low as to encourage people to harass and threaten them and their families.’
What exactly do you think CynDee and her cohorts did to the people whose names and addresses were published, recklessly and pointlessly (except to put legitimate gun owners at risk)? You worry about the aggressors and opportunists, but not the victims whose privacy was unconscionably violated by these cowards.
Why is the hypocritical and smug CynDee even hiding from Facebook? The other reporters, editors and staff should be ashamed the didn’t stand up and objectT
the
You should be ashamed of your post
Freedom of Information
Right now it is gun owners. Who is next that the cowards in the media will go after? WOW seems to think that this was an act taken without mercy. It was. But the media lacks mercy in all its coverage and justifies it as news that people want to know. Who are they to tell me that I want to know the names of gun owners? If people are really serious about this they should cancel their subscriptions to this newspaper.
In The Hanging Tree, the narrator says they went after someone else but they didn’t go after me so the narrator remains silent. Finally, they come for the narrator but no one is left to speak up for him. Thanks to all who are fighting back. Otherwise, the media will remain the bully unchecked. Think of the families of countless victims whose privacy is so invaded that they cannot cry alone. Justified by news.
WOW. Doesn’t seem to have a clue that this thing is bigger than just those employees.
Freedom of Information
Right now it is gun owners. Who is next that the cowards in the media will go after? WOW seems to think that this was an act taken without mercy. It was. But the media lacks mercy in all its coverage and justifies it as news that people want to know. Who are they to tell me that I want to know the names of gun owners? If people are really serious about this they should cancel their subscriptions to this newspaper.
In The Hanging Tree, the narrator says they went after someone else but they didn’t go after me so the narrator remains silent. Finally, they come for the narrator but no one is left to speak up for him. Thanks to all who are fighting back. Otherwise, the media will remain the bully unchecked. Think of the families of countless victims whose privacy is so invaded that they cannot cry alone without a camera in their face. Justified by news.
WOW. Doesn’t seem to have a clue that this thing is bigger than just those employees.
Dear Anonymous Journal News employee…
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, ain’t that a shame?
Huh?
And what did all of the law abiding gun owners have to do with the shooting in CT? Just because they lawfully own firearms that means they helped kill all of those kids?
Are you a moron? Seriously, I’m curious because no rational person would be so hypocritical.
WoW you’re stupid!
Some people should just keep their mouths shut! You being one of them.
Publishing names, etc
The reporters usually work for newspaprs, tv, etc that have the same ideas and desires that the paper has. I think the person who came up with this idea is a genius, and an American who is fighting back. We need more people like him.
two wrongs don’t make a right
That’s what the initial wrongdoers always say.
Hogwash
You say to Bob, “You obviously don’t get corporate America.”
B.S. — this has nothing to do with corporate America. The decision to publish New York gun owners’ names and addresses wasn’t made at the highest reaches of Gannett Co. management; it was made in the offices of the Journal News.
And don’t kid yourself. I’ll bet a great many of the same staffers who are now whining about their addresses being published were laughing uproariously when they heard about their bosses’ plan to publish the names and addresses of gun owners.
oh i highly doubt that. and
oh i highly doubt that. and what would exactly do you wish happens to these staffers whose addresses are published for specific targeting purposes? that they be hurt? yeah, real nice. you are a complete prick.
Re: Wow
They brought this on themselves.
When a news outlet decides to villify an innocent group of people and link them to a massacre that no decent individual doesn’t feel pain over, they’ve overstepped their boundries.
Why not just go Minority Report on us and break out the Precogs so we can be prosecuted for future crimes?
When the access to this information is blocked, everyone can thank Gannet for their “public service”.
http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/breaking-news-senator-ball-issues-statement-journal-news-gun-permit-map-and-introduces
Can you verify that the editors don’t own guns?
Robert –
Could you verify that the Journal News employees, in fact, do not own registered guns from the public data, and, if they do, were they on the map or protectively deleted from the map?
This map thing can go either way – someone can come looking to find a gun or, more likely, a robber will choose the unarmed neighbor next door as the safer and easier target. I’m sure the neighbors will appreciate the map even more than the listees. Darn those un-intended consequences.
“Could you verify that the
“Could you verify that the Journal News employees, in fact, do not own registered guns from the public data, and, if they do, were they on the map or protectively deleted from the map?”
Great question!I was wondering the same thing?
What about armed security guards?
Even if the Journal News bigwigs don’t personally own guns, do they have armed security guards patrolling their posh residences or neighborhoods?
Don’t talk the talk if you can’t walk the walk.
Quesion
Can they be sued for endangering the public and even slander?
Hopefully not. If they can,
Hopefully not. If they can, then so can Bob.
Ah, but they (JN) made a
Ah, but they (JN) made a Freedom of Information request to get information that wasn’t meant to be published.
The names and addresses of the employees and the publisher is most probably just public.
I hope they get more of their own medicine back. (And I find it improbable that not one of them is a registered gun owner.)
journal news employees
Thank you Sir! Fair is fair. I’m a gun owner who isn’t afraid of the criminal finding me, because they’ll go to someones home, after reading the Journal New map, who doesn’t have a gun, long before they come to mine. It’s safer for the criminal that way, no one will be able to defend themselves. Miss Hathaway
Are you serious? So put their
Are you serious? So put their names and addresses out there ONLY because they work there? How do you know they had anything to do with the story? Oh but let them be specific targets. And no, totally different from the database they had. The map the JN put out was outrageous. But this as a retaliation is ridiculous and doesn’t solve jack.
Eat the same food you serve!
Eat the same food you serve!
You don’t get it
Oh, it solves a great deal as a “teachable moment.”
It serves notice to the management of every other newspaper in America that before you go publishing the names and addresses of law-abiding citizens — along with a map to their residences — keep in mind that there are public records pertaining to the lives of you and your staffers, too.
Remember, too, that unlike the 1970s, you old media types don’t have a monopoly on the flow of information anymore.
precisely
“Remember, too, that unlike the 1970s, you old media types don’t have a monopoly on the flow of information anymore.”
my point exactly. well said.
Bob and others you are over the target…
If you are taking flak you are over the target…..LOL
Didn’t take long for the lib-tards to invade your blog!
Just like stage 4 cancer they are.
Heres my name and address……I am not afraid and I do have a permit to carry.
I also have the right to defend my property so if you libtards have the balls come and get me scum bags!!
J.Walters Swift hill Road, Cambridge Springs, PA 16403!
Delisted
After so many negative votes is the post delisted, I can’t find mine from last night calling for the disclosure if JN posted 100% of all information received or did they filter the list?
Jon Bandler’s Wedding Annoucement
Your spelling of Bandler’s first name is incorrect: It’s JohnathAn, not JohnathOn.
Speaking of Bandler, would anyone like to read his 2005 wedding announcement in the New York Times?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/20/fashion/weddings/20TAUB.html children.
Here are some excerpts:
Aimee Taub, the daughter of Susan Falk Taub and Dr. Robert N. Taub of New York, is to be married this evening in Pearl River, N.Y., to Jonathan Bandler, a son of Leah Bandler and Michael J. Bandler of Silver Spring, Md. Rabbi Michael D. Shmidman is to officiate at the Pearl River Hilton.
The bridegroom, 39, is a criminal justice reporter, based in Harrison, N.Y., at The Journal News, the Westchester daily. He is also the head coach of the men’s tennis team at Yeshiva University, from which he graduated.
His father is a developer of literary and cultural programs in the Office of International Information Programs of the State Department in Washington.
Jon Bandler, Tennis Coach
Bandler is now listed as “Adjunct Instructor, Tennis” at Yeshiva University, 500 West 185th Street, New York, NY 10033.
http://yu.edu/yeshiva-college/ug/physical-education-athletics/faculty/
Jon Bander’s Engagement Announcement
Photos of the happy couple, along with plenty of Mazel Tovs:
http://www.onlysimchas.com/v4/index.cfm/fuseaction:simcha.view/simchaid:37624
You’re an idiot. How is this
You’re an idiot. How is this relevant. You stupid ass.
You’re an idiot. How is this
You’re an idiot. How is this relevant. You stupid a$$.
Ask the “Journal” if it was
Ask the “Journal” if it was relevant?
Ask the “Journal” if it was
Ask the “Journal” if it was relevant?
Ask the “Journal” if it was
Ask the “Journal” if it was relevant.
Ask the “Journal” if it was
Ask the “Journal” if it was relevant.
Of course it’s relevant!
It’s every bit as relevant as the names and addresses of area gun owners.
Evidently you believe in a double standard when it comes to personal (but publicly available) information — the kind that pertains to average citizens, and the kind that pertains to local journalists.
Sorry, I think it’s time that people in the second group got treated like people in the first group.
Jon Bandler’s announcement
All this crap is on Facebook, Twitter, and a host of “social network” places anyway. So, what is the big deal? Anyone who puts their personal information on those “Social networks” is making themselves fair game.
IRONY: Armed Guards at Journal News
I have unconfirmed reports that the Journal News office now has an armed guard posted in the lobby.
I would love a photo and any confirmation available.
Mr. Cox
Mr. Cox – you are a GENIUS ! Please keep up the good work !
I look forward to seeing
I look forward to seeing that, and also his/her name, address and phone number. Perhaps the JN will comply.
Include the politicians as well
While your at it, I know Chuck Schumer well as Diane Feinstein hold a permits as well, maybe sticking their home address up there as well due to LOHUD most likely got their marching orders from Chuck in trying to shame gun owners.
Read more here…
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=10104
Include politicians as well
http://exposegannett.wordpress.com/ This company has to be a BIG source of media bias. GANNET IS THE UNITED NATIONS/GUN CONTROL/GLOBAL WARMING ETC.
eXPOSE GANNETT
Great Work!
Nice job jabbing back at the Libturds!
Thanks!
Thanks for doing a great job Robert. Very amusing to see how the libtards like a taste of their own medicine.
Calling their TOLL-FREE number, costs them $$$ call them now!
Not only cost them money, keep them on the phone for as long as you can. If it’s off hours, leave them a bunch of messages in regards to the gun map.
We only need a few thousand people to do this few times a day 🙂
CALL NOW
1-800-942-1010 (toll free)
Hours are 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday; and 8 to 11 a.m. Sunday.
Gannett Boycott on 01/01/13
Nation wide Gannett Boycott – all affiliates and advertisers – spread the news…
Email
Don’t forget to flood their email accounts
How brilliant. Because
How brilliant. Because that’ll solve the issue here.
Live by the pen, die by the
Live by the pen, die by the pen.
Uh-huh
Yeah, just like publishing the names of legal gun owners in New York solves the issue of school shootings in Connecticut!
When it rains….
Over One Hundred Thousand reads in December
Notre Dame plays for the National Championship in January.
Have you picked a Lotto number yet for this weekend?
Congrats Bob, on taking on the cranks, creeps and left-wing bleeding hearts, for a whole lot of us.
FOIL Request to County Clerks
Today, based on popular demand, I made the following FOIL request to the County Clerk’s in Westchester, Rockland, and Putnam counties.
BOB
How many anonymous people are on this blog? I know that all the anonymous replys are the same person.
annonymous
It’s just for you that I put my name at the bottom of my comment and yes it is my real name. Miss Hathaway
They most certainly are
They most certainly are not!
Maybe others are like me and can’t figure out how not to post as “Anonymous,” but feel they have to say something about this genius way of fighting back.
you can register for account
Look in the right hand corner.
Usually you must be registered to comment but I opened up the commenting for a few days to allow people to post more easily.
If you want a name to appear with your comments go ahead and register. It’s free. Look in the upper right corner.
you can register for account
Look in the right hand corner.
Usually you must be registered to comment but I opened up the commenting for a few days to allow people to post more easily.
If you want a name to appear with your comments go ahead and register. It’s free. Look in the upper right corner.
Bring it on Bobby !!!
Bring it on Bobby !!!
What an inspiration!
Thanks to your fearless leadership, the information on Gannett brand reporters is flooding into our system. We’ve setup a website where we are able to post links and information about Gannett affiliated media personalities all over the nation! Maybe now, with the spotlight on them and with their own little bubble just a bit smaller, they will be less likely to play fast and loose with the truth.
http://exposegannett.wordpress.com/
Excellent. Now, if little by
Excellent. Now, if little by little, the rest of the media could be held accountable for their shoddiness and superficiality, bias, and outright lies…
Bob, isn’t it nice that you hit a nerve…
with all the cowardly Journal News employees, who are aghast, simply aghast, at having their privacy invaded – yes, Virginia, turnabout IS fair play – with your lovely map, and posting, cowardly of course, under the screen-names (bright little sods, aren’t they? but then again they DO work at the rag JN or the pay to read garbage lohud), of:
Anonymous #1
Anonymous #2
Anonymous #3
Anonymous #4
Anonymous #5
Anonymous #6
Anonymous #7
Have I missed any cowardly Journal News employees?
There is no Constitution
This is really all about gun control. Endless gun control, yet another violation of our rights. The gov’t constantly violates our rights.
They violate the 1st Amendment by caging protesters and banning books like “America Deceived II”.
They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by allowing TSA to grope you.
They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars.
Impeach Obama.
Last link of “America Deceived II” before it is completely banned:
http://www.amazon.com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437
Boycott The Journal News and their advertisers
What the journal news has succeeded in doing is showing its readership, “we the people,” that they do not care about law abiding citizens or their readers. The reality is that targets are now on the households that have and do not have firearms.
A lot more rifles will now be sold because the Journal’s narrow minded leadership and it is clear, gun owner or not, we the people are the new enemy. Those targeted which is 99% of us, should support the closing of this publication.
Today legal gun owners are outed, who will it be tomorrow.
Do not buy this paper and actively boycott the advertisers.
If the best the journal news can do is put targets on all of our backs, we the people do not need them. Put them out of business.
I would be interested in the names of journal news family and friends who were excluded from the online outing. Note to Journal News leadership. You have bitten the hand that feeds you. Pull the legal gun owner site down, and do not do it again.
If you do not, the market will no longer support you as a viable regional publication and you will close.
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when the paper folds and the employees have to explain to new employers their roles in this debacle.
Can someone buy a copy of this rag…
and post all the advertisers? Even those in one issue will be a start.
If you all don’t want to email them, consider following them on Twitter and then letting you know you will never ever buy from them again, and you will also be telling everyone you know not to buy from them ever again.
You’d be surprised how attentive companies are to Twitter.
Someone please post the advertisers? Thanks.
Meet the Press
While the Meet The Press team is for more gun laws, the team knowingly and willfully violated the gun laws of D.C. Their excuse is they had Federal permission, since the Feds said it wasn’t illegal to have a 30 round magazine of .223. While this may be true at the Fed level, it still violated local laws of possessing a high capacity magazine in D.C. Everyone that was aware that they were knowingly and willfully violating local laws should get the maximum punishment. I hope the judge doesn’t allow the mistake defense.
Guns
It would be nice to cross reference all the lefty employees of the paper who have guns and single them out individually for their hypocrisy. And the lefty bloggers and politicians as well. OR do you think they may have been left off the gun map intentionally? Who knows without the original list.
Happy New Year
Unarmed Homes In Bold Relief
Should the armed be targeted as their privacy is violated? Then so shall the homes of the unarmed be published so that criminals can make educated decisions in their endeavors
Gun map – new york obsession
It seems that New Yorkers have an odd obsession with guns or the lack of them. In my neighborhood, semi rural semi suburban neighborhood north of Tampa, FL, you would need an barge of push pins to locate the guns. Almost everyone has guns. And some have many pistols and rifles. We have very little crime in our neighborhood. If street thugs were stupid enough to come to our neighborhood to cause trouble, they probably would not come out alive.
Great blog Bob Cox !! Keep it up.
I agree that it was invasion of privacy to publish street addresses of gun permit holders. There is a better way to deal with it. Eliminate gun registration, the first step towards violating your 2nd amendment rights. Eliminate gun control laws, even better. The real definition of gun control, is the ability to shoot your target accurately.
JN addresses
Don’t take anyone’s address off if they no longer are associated with the paper. Let them put pressure on the paper to take down the page. There are innocent people living with the permit holders whose addresses have been posted.
no thanks
While I agree with your latter point entirely, I do not see the point of listing people who do not actually work for the Journal News in a map of Journal News Employees.
The crack in the Liberty Bell just got bigger
JN knew when it posted the information that it would violate the privacy of all those tied to law enforcement, domestic violence, victim assistance and increase the burglaries of gun owner’s homes. So how are their actions trying to prevent another Sandy Hook? JN has only attempted to create more of these types of shooting incidents by attempting to place guns in the hands of criminals in order to promote their liberal, commie thinking of over turning everyone’s Constitutional rights. The blood will be on all of their hands and gun owner’s, victims and law enforcement will have the right to sue for gross negligence if their homes are robbed or worst. One can only surmise that the people working at JN have healthy pay checks based on their level of arrogance, so perhaps the criminals will think twice and rob their homes first, because they now know they will be at work, have considerable more booty and no way to defend themselves. You may also need to hide your children so the local pedophiles don’t show up while you are working. Too bad the JN psychos did not realize that a tit-for-tat scenario would play out on the world stage. Perhaps JN staff will donate their brains or lack thereof so they will end up in jars next to Adam Lanza’s for research.
JN exhibited extremely poor journalistic qualities, ethics and just plain evil to it’s readership, so if the subscribers that own guns or relish their privacy cancel their subscriptions and boycott advertisers, their consumers can put them out of business in order not to fear being next in being outed publicly to the globe for whatever their next hidden agenda item may be. The JN staff can then move taking Piers Morgan and Feinstein along with rest of their ilk to what ever country will take them, i.e., Russia, China, Middle East. Other media outlets take note, we want the truth and nothing but the truth instead of hidden agendas.
Time for passive resistance in the U.S. so we can regain our privacy, civil rights and start voting with our feet instead of becoming their door mats. Thank you Robert Cox and others for starting this movement – the sheeple are awake and ready to take action to restore our liberties. Now let us all become our own advocates and practice tit-for-tat against anyone that has lost their common sense, humanity, love of this country or the Constitution by embracing and restoring our freedoms.
Thanks a Lot A**Holes
Thanks to the paper I now need to go get a permit and a gun and train my family. They just painted a big red frickin bullseye on my home as now criminals know I don’t have a gun permit. While they tried to demonize those who have them all they did was succeed in making more of us vulnerable to home invasions. And I bet if any of these staff were gun permit holders their address wasn’t listed with the rest. Isn’t there laws to protect against this type of infringement of personal rights? Guess it doesn’t matter because they have their agenda to follow from the WH.
bullseye
My real worry is for people like yourself. Please get a gun and training for your familys sake. Crimes are began and completed in fewer minutes then it takes police to show up. God bless the police but even they know this fact.
Journal News Meeting Times
Does anyone know the time and duration of the daily Editorial staff meeting? How about the Online Staff meeting?
awwww. poor libtards. ya use
awwww. poor libtards. ya use there own thinking, action and logic and all the sudden..Viola! “how dare you invade my privacy and put me in jeopardy”
bwahahahaha. I’m sure the local “burglars union” will be interested in this information. Might want to get a gun know to …oh you know… protect yourself now that your realm has been violated.
(d—heads)
Come on, Bob. You coward.
Come on, Bob. You coward. You’ll post everyone else’s information, but you’ll edit my post to remove your own? That’s pathetic. I don’t want to threaten anyone, just like you don’t by posting the information for these people. Everything should be fine by making it public, so what’s the issue?
Robert A Cox
34 Aberfoyle Rd
New Rochelle, NY 10804-3550
http://www.facebook.com/robert.cox.37201
12 Sutton Manor Rd, New Rochelle, Westchester, New York 10801
This information might be slightly outdated, as well:
Robert Andrew Cox
208 Barnard Road
New Rochelle, NY 10801
United States
914-834-6087
rcox1963@yahoo.com
site clean up
I did not remove “my information”.
I removed information about children and my wife as is my prerogative given that this is my site. If you want to create your own site go ahead and perhaps I will link to it.
I am not posting “everyone else’s information”.
I am posting information on the Journal News and their employees in the same manner they did to my friends and neighbors where I live in Westchester County. I am not posting information about their wives and children, just those people who are directly benefiting from the Journal News publishing their map — their full-time employees.
You can do what you like — just not on my site. Welcome to the world of capitalism where individuals own things and can do with them what they like. I am sure it is confusing for you but maybe you can find someone to explain the concept to you.
Sure thing, Bob. Because
Sure thing, Bob. Because posting their FACEBOOK which has information on their children and spouses is so much better!
make them private
You have linked my Facebook page and I have not deleted that. I have the option to make my Facebook page private if I choose.
The JN employees have the option to make their Facebook pages private too. Some of them already have.
You seem quite concerned about the Journal News employees but not in the least concerned about the Journal News publishing THOUSANDS of people’s names and homes addresses and their pistol permits — or that the Journal News sought (and is presumably still seeking) additional information.
Are you aware that in New York State, pistol permits must list ALL guns owned by the permit holder? Most states do not do that but NY does and the JN sought that information to include in their map. I would expect if they do get that information they will update their map accordingly.
I realize you do not care about that as you have a different agenda entirely.
I get the idea that the Journal News is anti-gun and would like to see all guns banned but they have made a direction connection to the Newtown shooting which they are seeking to exploit for both political purposes and business purposes. What do gun owners, licensed and permitted by the state, have to do with that tragedy. Nothing that I can see.
What other purpose did their map serve other than to gain web traffic for themselves and shine a bright light on private citizens for the “crime” for being granted a pistol permit or owning a gun?
The Journal provided a
The Journal provided a first/last name and an address. You are providing phone numbers, social media accounts.. anything you can get your slimy hands on.
You seem so concerned about trying to prove a point that you complete ignore the fact that your own users are stalking and threatening these employees.
If you want these employees to remove their information, rather than you do it yourself, then have your family removed their information (LinkedIn, Twitter, etc.) as well.
It’s as simple as that.
not quite
Have you looked at the Journal News map or read their articles?
Journal News did not simple provide a first/last name and an address. They indicated that they had a pistol permit. They also sought to obtain (and presumably still are) the types of weapons owned by the pistol permit holders. I expect they may get that and then create a map sortable by weapons owned. My hunch is that what they were really hoping to do was create a map showing all the homes with an “assault weapon” but could not get that in a timely manner and so went with what they had as soon after the Newtown shooting as possible to get maximum attention to their site.
I am providing a specific list of information not “”anything you can get your slimy hands on”.
I want to be as sure as I can be that the person on the map is the person who works for the Journal News. For that reason I use a form and have asked readers to collect this specific set of data on any name they care to research as part of this crowd-sourcing effort.
Name:
Title:
Employer:
Home Address:
Home Phone:
Work Phone:
Work Email:
Twitter:
FB:
LinkedIN:
Image File:
I want this information because I can then cross-check the data to make as sure as I possible can that “person A” is actually the person who works at the Journal News and not someone with the same name. Facebook often lists hometown, LinkedIN shows their current employer, Twitter often has a photo and some additional information. Get the idea?
This is a crowd-sourced research project to get assistance from my readership in compiling a map that is a direct and proportionate response to their map.
The irony being that you
The irony being that you don’t realize you’re doing the exact same thing?
Or you do realize and you’re simply proving that either they did nothing wrong by posting the information, or you’re wrong for doing the same.
It’s funny that you’re so concerned about your wife and children without realizing that typically, the wife and children live with these same people that you’re posting the home address and phone number of.
Either way, it’s your website. At least you get the point, so there’s no reason to go further with this. (Please do delete my previous posts since I’m currently not able to. I wouldn’t want anyone doing anything drastic since it seems you’ve had to deal with that in the past already.)
I am doing the same thing!
If you look at their article with the map and mine you will notice that I re-worked their copy into my copy. There is a reason for that.
I am certain I have been clear that I took no pleasure in creating a map of Journal News employees. The idea occurred to me immediately upon learning of the map (given the nature of the site and that I link their stories regularly I monitor the site in real time). I thought it over for about 2 days. After seeing my readers take matters into their own hands I decided to proceed as I have described.
And yes I have my policy as to how to approach this project — what you call “limits”. I have confined myself to creating a map with the data I have described. There are plenty of people here and in emails urging me to go much further. You want nothing done, they want lots more done. This is my site and I will do what I think is best. For those who want something else they can go ahead with that on their own dime, on their own time, on their own site.
Unlike 99% of the visitors to this site, I have personal relationships with many people from Gannett including at the Journal News. I knew that proceeding with this map would end or seriously damage most if not all of those relationships. This is not an academic exercise for me.
I am not a “gun nut” or a “wing nut”. I do not even own a gun. There is no gun in my house. Check the map and you can see I do not have a pistol permit. I do not endorse any ideas or words other than my own.
For me there is a deeper issue here beyond guns which is the indiscriminate use of information by the JN to violate the privacy of law-abiding citizens for no other reason that they can, to score political points, to drive traffic to their lightly-read web site.
In my view, that warrants a response. They got one.
The effect has been that they have had to disconnect their phone numbers, protect their tweets or delete their Facebook accounts.
So, what?
I am not going to assist in this but I will tell you there are public figures in that map who have also had to take similar actions because the public now knew they had a pistol permit and presumably owned a gun or several.
I think what they did was bad — and certainly not journalism.
I do not like what I did either and I am not defending what I did on the grounds that it was a “good thing” to do in a vacuum. I have been on the receiving end of this sort of targeting myself. Sometimes, however, you have to do things you do not want to do in order to defend yourself or others.
The Journal News may not care one bit about my map, or view it was the cost of doing business or a badge of honor. That’s fine. I just want them — and other media outlets — to consider that exploiting public records in this manner is not a cost-free exercise. I want them to know that the map I created is what they and other papers can expect in reply to their next effort.
That said, I fully expect the Journal News will have an updated map within the next month that lists every weapon owned by every pistol permit holder and that the map will be set up so you can click and see every AR-15 in Westchester and so forth.
Bob, I have a question
Was this map against the law? Can the Journal News be sued for this?
Your IP has been locked in and we’re coming for you, next
We may knock, we may not.
Legal harassment and legal action
Bob has requested a copy of the same information that JN received, hopefully to cross check it. We can only win our rights by being law abiding citizens. To support Bob please donate to his cause. You find the link at the top. Conveying a threat is a crime and you are no longer a law abiding citizen.
HAHAHA. I wasn’t born
HAHAHA. I wasn’t born yesterday, moron.
Try again.
Second Job for Ulysses
Since they published Ulysses Jones living in the waters of Nyack, I think they should offer him a second job to buy affordable housing inland. A gun won’t even work if it’s wet, will it?
Why are you doing this??
What is the purpose for posting Bob’s information? You are doing the same thing as the Journal News, which I think is WRONG. The Journal News has put the lives of the gun owners at risk. Why don’t we make a map of everyone who has a criminal record. These Gun Owners are Good Citizens!!!!!!
You think it’s wrong, but you
You think it’s wrong, but you support Bob.
Not too bright there, are you?
post yours
Post your address too then if its such a wonderful idea “Anonymous”.
Much brighter then you!
At least Bob supports the people of New Rochelle. You must work for the Journal News, which I canceled my subscription to. I have had the Journal News all my life, but no more. They are losing all the subscription now. Everyone I talk to that have a subscription to are cancelling too.
Coward?
Sounds to me like you are the coward, posting as ‘anonymous’ . Hypocrites are the worst trash in the world.
Name
By the way, my name is Richard and I live in Mesa Arizona.
“Hypocrites are the worst
“Hypocrites are the worst trash in the world.”
HAHAHA. Well at least you’re right about something. Right, Bob?
Hiding behind an “anonymous”
Hiding behind an “anonymous” handle is the height of cowardice.Creep.
As you hide behind an
As you hide behind an anonymous handle. You’re hilarious.
Excellent Work
I agree with you! And those that interviewed you are trying to make you out to be the bad guy – just liberals!
Shared to my Facebook
Shared to my Facebook account.
Keep spreading the word.
Heroes like this deserve their name in lights.
Anti 2nd amendment zealots
I would love to see details about the security/bodyguard arrangements used by people like Bloomberg, Feinstein, etc.
To be fair, Bloomberg only
To be fair, Bloomberg only needs security as there are 300 million guns in the country, with over 5 million having been stolen by legal owners and in the hands of criminals.
Paul McCartney has a security entourage of 50 any time he tours the states. It’s 2 in Europe. He doesn’t actually have any security in England
feinsteinnn
She Has Hated guns since she was raped , and robbed in 91 !
see below
I’m now reading Robert Cox and Robert Fountain’s addresses are being circulated by the left wing activist group “Annonymous” web sites.
they will find…
The left-wing sites have already gone down this path before.
They can just pull up their old articles attacking me for various other articles I have written in the past.
hero
you are a hero Mr.Cox!
Better yet…
How about a map of democrat lawmakers that own guns?
Listed Groups of “Known “Types of Terrorists .
When “9/11” Happened , All The eyes in The Country Would Stare at Everybody Who Looked “Arab” , I Felt Scared Around one , and would like to know WHERE THEY ARE !
Not all Democrats are
Not all Democrats are anti-gun or “liberal” in the sense you think. Give it a break. It’s much more complicated than that
haha
i love it that a “responsible gun owners” response is to try and intimidate anyone who’s against guns……
you know, this guy did this, in the hope that a lunatic turns up and kills them.
he’s a nasty piece of work, destined to an eternity in hell
Not really
“this guy did this, in the hope that a lunatic turns up and kills them”.
I may be destined to an eternity in hell but it will not be because of this map.
I think the point of the map is pretty clear, as counter-programming to the Journal News pistol permit holder map.
To their credit, not one full-time employees of the Journal News have contacted me to complain about my map, and I know some of them. We shall see how they react to me the next time I see them but it seems to me that to be consistent they would have to agree that my map is no different than their map and so if they defend their paper’s map they have to defend mine.
We shall see.
I didn’t actually agree with
I didn’t actually agree with the newspapers actions myself. However, there is a fundamental difference.
The newspaper was posting addresses in the knowledge that these people who have no real enemies (let alone violent enemies.
There are lots of mentally ill people, with access to guns, who are looking to shoot anyone they think is threatening what they see as their way of life.
I’m for gun ownership – but it’s important for gun owners, and their lobby and political groups, to show they are responsible enough citizens to have guns AND have a safe country.
Posting private addresses, of anyone who disagrees with you, isn’t a great start
no real enemies?
“The newspaper was posting addresses in the knowledge that these people who have no real enemies (let alone violent enemies.”
Based on what? What they did was indiscriminate. They have not indicated in their reporting and commentary that they gave the slightest consideration to who was in their data.
I would suggest to you that current and former law enforcement officials are in their map, as are judges, victims of domestic violence and plenty of other people who have “enemies”.
There are also people who have employment pistol permits because they carry large sums of cash or jewelry or other valuables. Their “enemies” are people who would like to rob them or burglarize their homes.
So, I don’t agree.
Most of the lunies in this
Most of the lunies in this country are liberals, so I don’t think the employees of a liberal rag has anything to worry about.
Loonies That Can Read .
I , Personally Encourage Intruders in My House , I do NOT Lock My Doors at Night , and in the Summer I Leave All The Windows Open , Why Should I Breath Stale A/C air because of a Nut in The Night , I Post a Sign Though Warning That The Owner Has One Eye Open When He Sleeps Next to His 357 Magnum !
Employees , Editor .
The Numbers Listed are Either Diconnected , changed , or Heavily Screened , I Know , All of My Friends Have Shown an interest on OUR unlimited Minutes on our Phones , and We are out of State , even My Dog Called !
The Cat Got an Answer !
The Cat
I Forgot to Say That the Cat got an Answering machine (Dave Wilson) , He Sounds Nice .
Idiot
How long is it before someone looks up Robert Cox’s family, kids, grandparents, and puts there addresses online?
You know, you’re very irresponsible. If a mentally ill gun owner turns up and kills one of these people, you will be responsible
idiot
you ever wondered who will be responsible if a mentally ill anti-gun person shows up in front of the gun owners’ houses?
The fundamental difference
The fundamental difference being that the anti gun lobby don’t believe in extreme violence, so generally try and do their work through the correct democratic processes
that doesn’t apply….
we’re talking about a MENTALLY ILL anti-gun person, you can’t expect rational behavior or thought.
But of course there is no
But of course there is no reason to think that this is any more or less likely to happen as a result of this list as opposed to the paper’s list.
Several commenters seem to be implying that it’s okay for the paper to publish a list of addresses, because of course no crazy person would do anything with the information, whereas it is irresponsible to publish a list of journalists names, because who knows what a crazy person would do with such information.
It’s clearly not a very principled position.
Vimothy
Nut job w gun
How do things change if the mentally ill anti-gun person has a gun?
nut job w gun?
Silly liberal. Don’t you know that it’s against the law for mentally unstable people and felons to own or possess guns? Pro-gun folk are in favor of keeping weapons out of the hands of “nut jobs” at all costs. Deranged people or felons with guns are perfect examples of why “gun control” laws are useless.
Reply To Idiot Remark .
Mr. Cox Would get a Medal of Freedom of the State of LA. if He Would Do a Similar thing here , no Problem , we arrest People who DON’T own Guns Here , So if Your Anti-Gun Nut Shows in LA.,in Front of Our House ,
He Gets a FREE Burial !No Frills , Just Happy Gatuhs !
don’t think so
As you are new to this site and don’t know me you are not aware that I have been publishing various blogs for over 10 years and have ROUTINELY been threatened, my personal information put on line, my family too.
Here is one…
http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/new-rochelle-police-investigating-death-threat-against-talk-sound-editor-school-district-yar
The boat is owned by a local school district employee, James Bonanno, and kept on school property. The handwriting on the boat matches his son’s handwriting and my sources tell me it was his son, Little Jimmy Bonanno, who wrote “Bob Cox Sleeps with the Fish” on the side of the boat as a threat after I wrote a story about the boat being kept in a fenced in area leased by the New Rochelle school district.
Various school district employees have made other threats, put nails in my tires, thrown trash on my lawn, filed false police reports against me, reported me to CPS and so forth. The two with the boat are currently suing me in New York State Supreme Court. Believe me, I am quite used to this sort of harassment in response to my reporting — and, by the way, the Journal News, our local paper of record, has never shown the slightest interest in my welfare.
When I secured blogger credentials for the Scooter Libby trial a few years ago, this made a number of far-left bloggers and their readers upset and they devoted a great deal of time to harass me in various ways.
I could go on and on. These sorts of people have already, many times, sought to silence me by going after me and my family. The bottom line is that you have to have the courage of your convictions. I believe what the Journal News did here was wrong and that my map is a direct, proportionate response. If people do not like that they are free to disagree.
The notion that I am somehow responsible for what some mentally ill person may or may not do in the fevered pitch of your imagination. If these Journal News employees are seriously concerned I suppose they could apply for a pistol permit.
gun map
now i know who you are
Excellent Job !
i was wondering if any of the employees showed up on the gunowner list…..
Woo!
You sir are my hero. I love someone that goes to bat for gun Owners. I am a vet and feel like we are being labeled as bad people for having guns because of one nut case. It’s stupid. I am a perfectly function adult human being that pays my taxes, hugs my family, volunteers, and now goes to school, all while owning a dozen weapons. Weird? I like them like someone likes cars, yet they don’t go off own they’re own in the safe, odd, or shoot random people when I’m at the gun range,even more odd! Or the one I carry on my ankle(yes I have a permit with state and military training) doesn’t get grabbed by my hand and start shooting people. Someone asked me once ‘so why carry it at all if you don’t intend to use it?’ To which I replied ’cause I damn well want to thank you very much, and as a free respectful law abiding citizen i damn well will.’ That and it blows my mind how the stories of weapons saving people are never on the news, so many stories, oh well.
That’s my rant, I appreciate you listening. I will leave you with one last quote from a country song.
“You do your thing, I’ll do mine.”
Response
So you think it’s a good idea to put people’s addresses online, so a mentally ill person, with a gun, can turn up and kill someone?
You know, if Robert Cox is a responsible gun owner, then they should all be banned
You know the phone book is
You know the phone book is published online, right? Addresses like this aren’t exactly hard to find.
addresses online
ya just don’t get it do ya? I thought not.
doing the right thing !
Bravo! I appreciate your time and effort in exposing these hacks!
bet they have a different view of this exposure!
List of gun owners
What I have not heard mentioned is that the gun owner list also tells where the people live THAT DON”T HAVE GUNS, making them an easier target.
The Journal may have inadvertantly killed a few people.
Their intentions were not
Their intentions were not inadvertent.
Need their FEC data
I’d love to know how much each of the Gannett / Journal News cretins donated to the election campaigns of gun grabbers Obama/Biden, Schumer & Gillibrand among others. Could someone tag that to this excellent report of liberal hypocrisy?
love it!!!!
Thank you for this! Isn’t it interesting to see how the Journal behaves when they are “in power”. Scary, frankly. This balance of power, displayed here, is a perfect example of how and why the american people need to preserve our right and ability to defend ourself.
love it!!!!
Thank you for this! Isn’t it interesting to see how the Journal behaves when they are “in power”. Scary, frankly. This balance of power, displayed here, is a perfect example of how and why the american people need to preserve our right and ability to defend ourself.
here here!
here here!
Mis-Guided Journal News
Good Work, Christopher Fountain.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
EDITOR’S NOTE: Chris is actually over at http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com
This is Talk of the Sound.
That’s a good point. I should
That’s a good point. I should probably work on Chris’s info, next.
Christopher C
Christopher C Fountain
Christopher.fountain@Gmail.com
322 Riverside Ave
Riverside, CT 06878-2122
(203) 249-4394
Neat. This is fun.
https://greenwichct.munisself
https://greenwichct.munisselfservice.com/citizens/RealEstate/OwnerInformation.aspx
Thanks Journal-News! Best Christmas Gift Ever
I’ve been looking for my ex wife for 4 years. Finally, found the bitch and glad to know she’s packing a gun.
You’re right, Bob. This is fun.
Amazing how easy it is to find stuff online. I found more addresses, though I believe this one is bit outdated. Guess I’ll have to dig further:
34 Aberfoyle Rd
New Rochelle, NY 10804-3550
Robert A Cox
http://www.facebook.com/robert.cox.37201
Welp..
westchester.blockshopp
Welp..
westchester.blockshopper.com/property/55-10-00-000-003-0941-000-014-0000/208_barnard/
Looks like you should have waited to sell that house!
Sutton Manor Rd?
Hmm.. think
Sutton Manor Rd?
Hmm.. think I might be getting close.
Going to have to go with:
12
Going to have to go with:
12 Sutton Manor Rd,
New Rochelle, New York 10801
Found some more outdated info, as well:
Robert Andrew Cox
208 Barnard Road
New Rochelle, NY 10801
United States
914-834-6087
rcox1963@yahoo.com
Someone in your family still
Someone in your family still owns the
34 Aberfoyle Rd
New Rochelle, NY 10804-3550
address. I was able to verify that from your cute little squirrel apple video.
The irony
An outstanding tactic to thwart this invasion of privacy by an out-of-control liberal fascist press. Next step is ‘outing’ all those who try and abrogate our Constitutional rights and laws that have been upheld by the Supreme Court and is the law of the land. The solution is clear. Address the woefully inadequate mental health treatment program. It was critically deconstructed 20 years ago by major pharmaceuticals who influenced the MH treatment community to treat virtually all as out patients so they could sell more psychotropic drugs. The APA is partially responsible by their definitions of mental illness. Finally health insurers must be forced to cover mental health treatment without exception or exclusion. Keep these facts in mind: firearms account for fewer deaths than alcohol, drugs, baseball bats, ladders, automobiles AND firearm deaths due to suicide far exceed criminal homicides AND anti-gun activists are pathological liars and require mental health treatment so let’s start with them because they are truly insane.
Sleazy news people
Remember when the news people actually tried to present themselves as ethical people, LMAO.
Note to Robert Cox
I am a proud gun owner. But, Robert, you do not represent me.
The Journal News should not have published names and addresses. Nor should you.
If you’re the adult in the room, you should have have thought before you hit enter. I urge you to stand down.
Dan Clark
Outting rats
No, we need more people like Robert Cox. If your conscience prohibits you from outting rats then leave this site.
Sigh x 1000
Get a grip on yourself Clark. This is not a Ms. Manners column; your misplaced outrage is insulting.
You may be a gun owner Clark, but you know nothing about warfare. Cox had the courage and backbone to act, and fight fire with fire, which is likely alot more than you are doing.
If you can’t get behind your fellow man in this fight, then shut up and get out of the way.
You’re right. Looks like Bob
You’re right. Looks like Bob Cox (or should I say Robert A Cox) isn’t off limits, then.
Turn about is fair play….
and I can just feel the fear in people who post when the barrel gets turned at them! I like…..
I represent me
Dan,
I agree that publishing personal details of Journal News employees and mapping the data is a terrible thing to do. I thought about it the moment their map was published (given the nature of my site I monitor all local media including the Journal News in real time). I thought about it on Christmas Eve, I thought about it on Christmas Day, my family debated it over Christmas Dinner. On the day after Christmas I saw that my readers had already begun on their own efforts through their own blog post and comments. I took it from there.
I do not like the idea of mapping the personal details of Journal News employees but in my view it was the most effective and proportionate response to their map of pistol permit holders. While I am not on the map, many friends and neighbors are on the map and none of us like what the JN did. In my view it was an attempt by the paper to intimidate, harass and bully lawful pistol permit holders coupled with a grab for traffic to create interest after their web site instituted a pay-wall earlier this year.
Given that a minority of lawful gun owners even have pistol permits and that those who own “illegal” guns do not tend to register for pistol permits this map singles out only those people who have applied for a permit, passed background checks, gotten training, add each new gun they acquire to their pistol license, patiently wait for any newly purchased gun to be added to their license, and otherwise abide by the law. The message seems to be “thank you for following the strict gun laws we have in NY, your reward is that we will do our best to shame you for doing that.”
Whatever the paper might say, that they have featured letters thanking them because now parents will know where NOT to let their children play, is a true indication of their mindset — they want friends and neighbors to ostracize pistol permit holders and, by extension, gun owners.
You are right, I do not speak for you. I see no where in this article that I have claimed to do so. I speak for myself.
The crack in the Libery Bell just got bigger
Robert, you forgot to add the Journal News DID NOT put the gun owner’s map and information behind their subscription pay-wall, but choose to publish it to the world.
Bloggers Phone
(203) 249-4394
Here is the bloggers cell phone number that he posts on his blog.
Names & Addresses
Putting up the names & addresses of legally licenses persons, Law Abiding, was grossly bad judgement. The intent of this is to discredit these people, and depict them as villians. Criminals can now use these to go steal guns and watch for survalence to rob the homes, knowing they will probably get a stash of guns. The newspaper editors are promoting an agenda, to villinize anyone who would own a gun. Disgusting, immoral, and could be deadly for these persons listed. Criminals use information like this to their advantage. I hope if anyone of these people are victimized, they will get enough in the lawsuit to close the paper down.
Just Remember
For all those New Yorker’s out there. Remember, these people listed are very wealthy and don’t believe in home defense.
Advertisers
I’m not in New York. Could someone please post a list of the advertisers in Journal News?
Journal News
Have you started working on the advertisers yet?
I leave that to someone else
My goal was to counter-map the Journal News employees.
That’s plenty of work for me.
Others are free to do what they want — and can even link their efforts here.
Sir, you are a hero.
Don’t
Sir, you are a hero.
Don’t back down, don’t recant, don’t apologize.
About time!
Great Job! It is about time someone turned the tables on these types of report(er)s. It is ashamed that our country has come to this but I think you truly deserve a medal for standing up to these people. Keep up the good work!!
Turnabout is fair play
These media liberals destroyed my family because my Grandson, who was 18 when charged with this on-violent crime but is emotionally about 10-12 years old as diagnosed by at least 5 psychiatrists and has been under psychiatric and psychological care for over 10 years now was charged with a non-violent crime. Not convicted, but only charged. He now resides in jail awaiting trial (America: where you are presumed GUILTY until proven innocent) because we are too poor to post bond.
Because of lies in the newspapers, we were evicted from our apartment even though the alleged “crime” didn’t occur in the village we lived in and none of us who lived in the apartment were ever charged with a crime.
In fact, we are all law abiding citizens with my Father-in-law being a 31 year policeman, my wife’s uncle a 25 year detective who was #2 on his police force and personal friends of J. Edgar Hoover who has put over 500 violent criminals in prison. One murderer who was let out by a liberal judge on a mistrial was kept track of even after my wife’s uncle retired and his records helped to later convict him of another rape and murder of an elderly woman in another state because he never gave up on a case in his life. My wife’s Grandfather was a Circuit Court Judge as well as a Law Professor of high esteem.
None of that mattered or was mentioned even ONCE by any of the newspapers or news programs. Only that my ex-son-in-law was a child rapist who is in prison (deservedly so) for 25 years for having raped and molested his girlfriend’s daughter from when she was 5 years old until she was 12 years old. He had at least 4 counts of rape in two counties in my state and one in another state. No mention in any article that he molested my own granddaughter. In fact the state refused to charge him because he didn’t rape her!!! But they tried to say that my Grandson learned from his Father (what he is supposed to have learned I have no idea since my Grandson never molested or raped a girl in his life and never even had a girlfriend until he was 19 years old because he is a computer and game system nerd) even though he hasn’t seen his Father since he was THREE YEARS OLD!
That is not even yellow journalism, it is trial by accusation, not a jury of his peers.
So I am well aware of how the liberal media destroys innocent people and families, just as the state and Federal government does. My Grandson will spend at least 6 months in jail before they conduct his trial because his bond is set at $100,000 (meaning he has to put up $10,000) while in the next village over from us two men raped a woman and a third watched them without trying to help her and they are all walking the streets today on reduced bonds ($300,000 each was reduced to $25,000 each meaning they had to put up $2,500 each). To add insult to injury, they then went back to court and had the judge rule that they did not have to wear ankle bracelets to keep track of their movements and she granted their petition!!! Yet detectives are investigating the possibility that they had raped other women in that same house previously, which is an ongoing investigation. There was virtually no media coverage of these events and what coverage there was had a positive vein to it in that it cited the academic and athletic achievements in high school and college of one of the guys as well as appearances by his State Representative on his behalf. Yet my grandson’s charges were covered by at least 50 papers and every local TV news program… even though they picked up this woman they raped at a restaurant in the village we lived in that is walking distance from our apartment and brought her back to their house to rape her.
About time!
Great Job! It is about time someone turned the tables on these types of report(er)s. It is ashamed that our country has come to this but I think you truly deserve a medal for standing up to these people. Keep up the good work!!
You’re a piece of s—!
You’re a piece of s—!
And YOU should know a——-.
And YOU should know a——.
Can somebody that knows google map mashups
Combine, the Papers’ Gun Map List with those that contributed $$$ to Pre$ Obama’$ 2008 &/or 2012 Campaign’$ including the Voter reg info?
Nothing Like the Freedom of Speech
I was very impressed with the details of Robert Cox’s Blog about the Journal, I hope this will be an example to all the other liberal media outlets, that they shouldn’t through rocks when they live in glass houses. The report to show all the permitted gun owners in a specific area was down right vindictive and then use the excuse that the writer himself owns a pistol excuses this act of stupidity. I feel sorry for the citizens of New York having to stand in shadows, because of the political correctness.
Leroy from Arizona
Outing the media filth.
Any chance we can get Mr. Cox to “out” the TV network scum?
Published list of gun owners???
Great, now we know which houses to avoid…
Glad to help
I think it’s completely pathetic for anyone to criticize what Mr Cox set out to do. How is this any different than what the Journal did?
If the Journal employee’s are upset or even worried, than maybe they should take their map down and quit trying to name and shame lawful gun owners? There’s a bright idea.
I was happy to help in the location of one of the employee’s and am working on more. Just like the Journal I am using ALL public information.
Good for the goose? I think so
Let’s start a fund….
We should start a fund to help find more information about these Journal News employees AND those who live with them. Not children, but adults too. Who knows, they maybe dope-heads, or molesters. Count me in for $25.
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Good Job!
Its only fair that those who cast the first stone should know what it feels like when stuck in their own face. Give it all out…cars, property values, gun ownership (or NOT), etc… Let them know what it feels like to have their private lives opened up for criminals to size up.
If there was such a thing as true justice, the first legally armed citizen victimized over this should have the right to “housecall” each person on the map of employees, starting with the newspaper’s owners and administrators!! Keep those addresses up, someone might need it one of these days!
Good Job, Bob!
Thank you!
Your turnabout was a deliciously-clever strike against the smug arrogance of the Journal News. I hope that they are all fuming.
Expand it…..
Let’s expand it to show those in the National Media who are hell-bent on destroying the country.
ALL PUBLIC info!! map out their addresses on the net. Every single one of them.
NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC, MSNBC, etc.
I’ll second that motion.
I’ll second that motion.
I agree!
Jerry in Kansas
I agree!
Jerry in Kansas City.
Good Job!
Its only fair that those who cast the first stone should know what it feels like when stuck in their own face. Give it all out…cars, property values, gun ownership (or NOT), etc… Let them know what it feels like to have their private lives opened up for criminals to size up.
If there was such a thing as true justice, the first legally armed citizen victimized over this should have the right to “housecall” each person on the map of employees, starting with the newspaper’s owners and administrators!! Keep those addresses up, someone might need it one of these days!
Good Job, Bob!
Good Job!
Its only fair that those who cast the first stone should know what it feels like when stuck in their own face. Give it all out…cars, property values, gun ownership (or NOT), etc… Let them know what it feels like to have their private lives opened up for criminals to size up.
If there was such a thing as true justice, the first legally armed citizen victimized over this should have the right to “housecall” each person on the map of employees, starting with the newspaper’s owners and administrators!! Keep those addresses up, someone might need it one of these days!
Good Job, Bob!
Publish everything about them…
Absolutely, publish anything and everything about those people, including known work hours and off days, habits, etc.
Perhaps then they will enjoy the same angst as the others, whom they chose to expose in the first place.
Great job, Bob!
Next up: Organized boycotts of Lohud’s advertisers
One of the other commenters asked what’s next.
Next, it’s time to start organizing letter-writing campaigns and boycotts of Lohud’s advertisers, one-at-a-time.
Until such time as they influence Lohud to take down the database, or withdraw their advertising funds.
Who are the adverisers?
Great Point, who has the list of advertisers? I just emailed everyone on the Journal-News list. Only 4 had non-delivery return. Either no one is emailing them or someone is monitoring all incoming emails. My question was: Did Journal-News publish 100% of all information requested? I want to know if Journal-News didn’t post themselves, family, friends, body guards.etc that was provided under the freedom of information act.
Now if you would just publish
Now if you would just publish a list of thier valuables, it would be complete!
Cross post?
has anyone cross linked the list of gun owners with the list of the Journal News employees?
Did the writers at the Journal News edit out their own names and the names of their friends from the gun owner list?
Cross post?
has anyone cross linked the list of gun owners with the list of the Journal News employees?
Did the writers at the Journal News edit out their own names and the names of their friends from the gun owner list?
darwin awardees?
“Mommy, I’m scared.”
Talk about darwin in action@!@
HAHAHA Their turn!~
I wonder if they like their new friends that are probably watching them@!~~ OMG, this is hillarious.
Hope they sleep well at the pm!~
Fact Check
I’m working on emailing everyone on the list this question: Did Journal-News publish 100% of all information requested? I want to know if Journal-News didn’t post themselves, family, friends, body guards.etc that was provided under the freedom of information act.
Revenge
Why don’t you use one of the damn guns to take out one of the looser journalists?
A list for Parolees looking for a victim
I’m sure that they’re all unarmed, and ripe for the plucking.
I wonder if these people feel safer with their information pre-plotted for every blogger in the area?
Article viewers from all over the country
Wow this article is getting comments from nutjobs all over the country who have no idea they’re applauding the worst muckraking poor excuse for a journalist this side of the Mississippi. If you don’t like what the Journal News did, trust me you would not like what Bob does on a regular basis.
hypocrite liberals
Let me guess, you the one clapped loudest when the paper printed gun-owners private information to the public. How about it, Mr. Transparency, may we know your real name, address, and phone # while we are at it?
No I do not agree
I do not agree with what the Journal News did. Not at all. In fact I was the first one to alert my neighbors that they appeared on the map in case they wanted to try to take action. I live in New Rochelle though, and I see what Bob does on a regular basis. I will not give my name, but Bob has given my name before and a link to my facebook page because I was a friend of a drunk driver. I guess it’s nice to see he’s finally getting the attention he has always felt he deserves but believe me when I say you are patting the back of one of the very people you are angry at.
Robert Cox
Robert Cox is the definition of liberal hypocrite!
turning the tables, its about time
I frankly don’t care what the writer of this blog does on a daily basis as so many lament. The fact that he turned the tables on the grossly irresponsible behavior of that newspaper is fantastic. What that newspaper did was make free men and women who choose to exercise the rights, completely within the law, targets. They made them targets. Never mind that they just heightened the level of danger faced every day (and night, when most criminals choose to strike) of countless numbers of CHILDREN! Yes you fools, gun owners have children. Now their addresses are readily available to criminals. I just hope the journal reports on the citizens, at the addresses they published, who get victimized by crime now. I doubt it but in the meantime, they can sweat it out themselves…hope you like how it feels because whats good for the goose is good for the gander you pricks.
That’s nice
But it doesn’t change the fact that “making free men and women who choose to exercise the rights, completely within the law, targets” IS EXACTLY WHAT THE WRITER OF THIS BLOG DOES EVERY DAY! You are the fools who are being foolish by encouraging the very type of person you lament!
Thank you
Thank you for doing this. Too often the left broadsides us with this kind of attack (and make no mistake, this was an attack) with no response from the right.
Thank you for the response we were all wishing we could do.
Curious
Dwight R. Worley is credited as the author of the article where the interactive map of gun owner’s homes was published. The Journal has already disclosed that Mr. Worley has a gun permit, but strangely enough, the map he published doesn’t include a marker for his own address at 230-6 139th Ave in Queens. I wonder why.
I had the same question
Has anyone requested the same information that Journal-News requested and checked it against the information they posted. I’m curious if they have not post themselves, family, friends, body guards.etc.
easy answer
I believe it was just a map for Westchester and Rockland County
revenge
Dwight R. Worley 230-6 139th Ave in Queens. for criminals to know where he is at. Easy picking
revenge
Dwight R. Worley 230-6 139th Ave in Queens. for criminals to know where he is at. Easy picking
There are legal harassment measures you can take
Have you emailed, write, or called anyone one the Journal-News list?
Bob calling the kettle black
Bob has done the same kind of “journalism” as was done in the JN many many times by publishing names and private information of innocent people as if they were somehow connected to crimes that had nothing to do with them. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously as a “journalist” Bob? You’re no better than the people you call out here. You are much, much worse.
Point taken but you are still illogical
True, the blogger used the same tactic as this muckraking left-wing toilet paper passing for a newspaper but in the face of their 1st Amendment rights there is only one way to sustain some element of control and that is to apply the 1st Amendment equally so thus the blogger exercised his right to free speech and press as a defense to a totally outrageous expression of the press that is likely without precedent.
The newspaper deserved the left hook for the below the belt punch they served on law-abiding citizens who have had their privacy and personal security invaded for profit and political gain. Screw that newspaper and all who work there who support this kind disgusting journalism.
Time for them to feel the same as those they hurt or they will just continue to inflict their violations of individual rights in the face of a bastardized interpretation of the Constitution that they have no responsibility for what they write or broadcast.
What would you propose? A violent response? A passive laizze faire attitude like most ignorant liberals? OR this very appropriate tactic to let the media know there are repercussions and consequences so they should behave responsibly and respectfully.
serves them right
They hate it when tables r turned. One has a cousin that is whinning on twitter that he is innocent and to. Please stop posting their private info. Well now, I think all those gun owners were innocent but the liberal lunatics thought it was okay to publish their private info. What’s good for the gander is good for the goose. They are not elite like they believe, in fact no better than anyone else. At least the criminals know where the gun free zones are. Easy pickins as they say.
Thanks
Thanks for doing the ‘turn a put is fair play’ thing. You know there is a movie out,” Murder By Proxy: How America went Postal”. It talks about what could cause something like these mass shootings to be happening. They don’t want people to think about what could cause this, only that it happened. It’s not the guns.
Names
I LOVE this. I went one step further. Names of officers of owner of TJN
Gannett Publishing
7950 Jones Branch Dr
McLean VA 22107-0910:
CEO Gracie Martore age 60
CFO Paul N. Saleh age 55 Sr V.P.
V.P. George Gavagan- Chief Acct. Off
Sr.V.P. William A. Behan age 53 Labor Relations
Sr.V.P. Maryam Banikasim age 43 Marketing
And since Gannett is a publicly traded company, the Board of Directors are:
John E. Cody
Howard D. Elias
Arthur H. Harper
John Jeffery Louis
Marjorie Magner-Chairman
Gracie C Martore
Scott K. McCune
Duncan M. McFarland
Susan Ness
Neal Shapiro
revenge
Dwight R. Worley 230-6 139th Ave in Queens. for criminals to know where he is at. Easy picking
this is great!
I’m right in front of Liz’s house right now. Google Maps shows me exactly which house is hers. It looks like they use the side door a lot.
scream
Scream out as loud as you can that ‘Liz is a whuoore”
Nice work
Question
Obviously if the Journal News’s map generates harassment or even physical violence, they bear some responsibility.
If the same occurs because of this map, does the “they did it first excuse” really make up for it?
Many of the journalists whose names were published presumably have nothing to do with the article and also have families at home. Come on.
The “they shouldn’t have published” crowd had a ton of sympathy in the media and a stunt like this, while interesting and driving a ton of traffic, takes away some of the moral high-ground they had before. In the short term I’m sure the Journal editors are annoyed but for every crazy that uses this list to harass them, or god forbid worse, likely convinces them to keep categorizing gun owners and supporters in one crazy, vengeful basket.
No, it doesn’t. The moral
No, it doesn’t. The moral high ground never addresses anything as well as CONSEQUENCES, which are becoming less and less in this day and age. We need more consequences, less lip-flapping.
It doesn’t matter how they
It doesn’t matter how they categorize gun owners and supporters. “They” didn’t care before, and if they care now it’s only because “they” have faced some consequences. It’s certainly not because anyone lectured them about the moral high ground. Get real.
reply to letsbefair,
You can
reply to letsbefair,
You can pound sand. This isn’t the first time some flaming liberal rag has done this. The difference this time, is that the SAME tactic, and hopefully, more intense tactics, will be used against the very scum at Journal News. Other users here are right, scrounge every database available and post every intimate detail about every employee at Journal News, vehicles, mortgage info, financial holding, summer homes, political associations, and even their children’s schools. MAYBE then, the A-holes will think twice before doing this again.
This is fair
These journalists need to know there are consequences for which-hunting innocent people.
many of the journalists
yes many of those journalists had nothing to do with this reporting, and so was all those people whose name/add were given out, they to have families at home{ kids }they to deserve to be respected and have privacy, so how does it feel to be wearing our shoes now? not funny right, hope this is the beginning of pay back time
question stands
And if violence against one of them breaks out, is that still ok? Is the payback worth it if someone gets hurt?
I don’t work for the Journal or know anybody that does but I do know what professionalism looks like.
I wonder if I am just speaking too myself but I am commenting because I hope deep down many of you realize that there is a problem with mutually assured destruction and hope none of you teach this lesson to your kids if you have any.
Teach My Children Well
The lesson I would teach my kids is that it’s appropriate to stand up to bullies, especially when they’re trying to intimidate you. And sometimes that requires giving them exactly what they dished out first.
You ask, “If violence against one of them breaks out, is that still ok?”
But I’ll bet you didn’t ask that same question to anybody at the Journal News, did you … even though they struck first.
If I’m right, I suggest you examine your own morality and ask yourself why you have more contempt for the man who stands up to the bully than the bully himself.
What?
Do you realize how stupid your comment sounds??
You are concerned about the ‘innocent’ workers at an out-of-control unprofessional newspaper trying to gain notoriety to improve political visibility and profitability (likely not so innocent since they choose to work in the sewer with the rest of the rats and gladly accept their salaries) as opposed to those innocent, law-abiding citizens who have now been exposed to who knows what risks by this irresponsible toilet paper passing as a newspaper.
You cannot have it both ways and the greater good outweighs the fewer need. They exposed a lot more innocent people for profit and deserve the ramifications. They can quit this rag sheet on principle and they will have recovered some respect but as long as they work for this journalistic cesspool they suffer the consequences of their employer’s actions. Happens to all of us. Ask those folks at Enron, Countrywide, Merril-Lynch, AIG, WW TElecom, to name a few companies wehre employees took it in the butt because of their employer.
DON’T DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE
What?
Do you realize how stupid your comment sounds??
You are concerned about the ‘innocent’ workers at an out-of-control unprofessional newspaper trying to gain notoriety to improve political visibility and profitability (likely not so innocent since they choose to work in the sewer with the rest of the rats and gladly accept their salaries) as opposed to those innocent, law-abiding citizens who have now been exposed to who knows what risks by this irresponsible toilet paper passing as a newspaper.
You cannot have it both ways and the greater good outweighs the fewer need. They exposed a lot more innocent people for profit and deserve the ramifications. They can quit this rag sheet on principle and they will have recovered some respect but as long as they work for this journalistic cesspool they suffer the consequences of their employer’s actions. Happens to all of us. Ask those folks at Enron, Countrywide, Merrill-Lynch, AIG, WW Telecom, to name a few companies where employees took it in the butt because of their employer.
DON’T DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE
What?
Do you realize how stupid your comment sounds??
You are concerned about the ‘innocent’ workers at an out-of-control unprofessional newspaper trying to gain notoriety to improve political visibility and profitability (likely not so innocent since they choose to work in the sewer with the rest of the rats and gladly accept their salaries) as opposed to those innocent, law-abiding citizens who have now been exposed to who knows what risks by this irresponsible toilet paper passing as a newspaper.
You cannot have it both ways and the greater good outweighs the fewer need. They exposed a lot more innocent people for profit and deserve the ramifications. They can quit this rag sheet on principle and they will have recovered some respect but as long as they work for this journalistic cesspool they suffer the consequences of their employer’s actions. Happens to all of us. Ask those folks at Enron, Countrywide, Merrill-Lynch, AIG, WW Telecom, to name a few companies where employees took it in the butt because of their employer.
DON’T DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE
Get the “news” media scum
Good work brother! We must make life as uncomfortable as possible for those in the “news” media that want to deny us our most basic civil liberties.
We’ve got the addresses, now lets harass the news media
I agree. People who work in the “news” define civil liberties as two queers getting “married” and giving it to each other up the butt, or killing unborn babies.
It’s going to be fun to watch the harassment the liberal “news” reporters are now going to endure.
We’ve got the addresses, now let’s harass the news media
I agree. People who work in the “news” define civil liberties as two queers getting “married” and giving it to each other up the butt, or killing unborn babies.
It’s going to be fun to watch the harassment the liberal “news” reporters are now going to endure.
addies
..most of these guys are actually more likely to be found down on the east side sukking kokk for twenty bucks, than at their home addresses.
“Anonymous” is a Journal news Employee
Please stop posting, it isn’t working. Only a Journal News employee would make these posts to try and discredit honest outrage at your papers irresponsible act. Yours are the postings of a liberal posing as a pro 2nd amendment poster.
Map: Even more Dangerous than Gun Owners…
Where are the Liberal Journalist’s in your Neighborhood? http://wp.me/pOe4O-cU6
Do Politico next!!!
You should make this your “thing” and just do one media outlet after another.
Now hit up the DMV
Send a records request to the DMV for their registered vehicles so they know what it is like to have personal property along side their address and name posted on the internet.
Now hit up the DMV
Send a records request to the DMV for their registered vehicles so they know what it is like to have personal property along side their address and name posted on the internet.
KUDOS, Bob…..
btw, getting into your site is taking some time, which means you’re getting lots and lots and lots of eyeballs, right? Any chance of getting the invasion of privacy url shut down?
YOUR wonderful, excellent, brilliant map is almost getting as much press as the original invasion of privacy map, keep up the good work:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blogger-retaliates-against-paper-that-published-gun-owner-addresses-by-creating-interactive-map-of-its-employees/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/27/blogger-journal-news-addresses-gun-owners_n_2369750.html?utm_hp_ref=media
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/12/27/Map-of-Gun-Owners-How-About-a-Map-of-Newspaper-Employees
lots of traffic
We are just a humble little hyper-local news site that gets about 2,000 readers a day (not a lot but we are the most read media outlet in New Rochelle, including by the way the Journal News/lohud.com).
As you can see from this chart we have been getting about 2,000 visitors an hour — so yes that is a great deal of traffic for us.
http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=s50talknewrochelle&r=35
lame stunt
Sophomoric and lame stunt, don’t persecute the messenger.
lame stunt
Said Cyndee Royle.
Gannet Board of Directors Website
http://www.gannett.com/section/WHOWEARE01
They are the owners of Journal News – Time for a Nationwide BOYCOTT.
Map
Nice map and good work.
May I kindly suggest you correlate the information from the newspaper report to prominently list those without gun permits. Certainly they would want the whole world to know they do not own any handguns that could be used to defend their homes.
Gannett Bord of Directors owners of Journal News
Gannett Board of Directors
Marjorie Magner
Chairman, Gannett Co., Inc. Managing partner, Brysam Global Partners, a private equity firm investing in financial services with a focus on consumer opportunities.
Board committees: Audit; Executive; Executive Compensation.
Other directorships: Accenture, Ally Financial, Inc.
Age 62.
Gracia C. Martore
President and CEO. Formerly president and chief operating officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2010-2011); Executive vice president and chief financial officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2006-2010); Senior vice president and chief financial officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2003-2006).
Board committees: Executive; Transformation.
Other directorships: FM Global; MeadWestvaco Corporation.
Age 60.
John E. Cody
John E. Cody
Former executive vice president and chief operating officer of Broadcast Music, Inc.
Board committees: Audit; Executive.
Other directorships: Tennessee Performing Arts Center.
Age 65.
Howard D. Elias
Howard D. Elias
President and chief operating officer, EMC Information Infrastructure and Cloud Services, Executive Office of the Chairman.
Board committees: Executive Compensation; Transformation.
Age 54.
Arthur H. Harper
Arthur H. Harper
Managing partner, GenNx360 Capital Partners, a private equity firm focused on business-to-business companies.
Board committees: Executive Compensation; Nominating and Public Responsibility.
Other directorships: Monsanto Company.
Age 56.
John Jeffry Louis
John Jeffry Louis
Co-founder and former chairman, Parson Capital Corporation.
Board committees: Audit; Transformation.
Other directorships and trusteeships: S. C. Johnson & Son, Inc.; Johnson Financial Group; Northwestern University; Chicago Council on Global Affairs; and a commissioner of the U.S./U.K. Fulbright Commission.
Age 49.
Scott K. McCune
Scott K. McCune
Vice president and director, Integrated Marketing, The Coca-Cola Company.
Board committees: Nominating and Public Responsibility; Transformation.
Age 55.
Duncan M. McFarland
Duncan M. McFarland
Retired chairman and chief executive officer, Wellington Management Company, LLP.
Board committees: Audit; Executive; Executive Compensation.
Other directorships: NYSE Euronext, Inc.; and The Asia Pacific Fund, Inc., a closed-end registered investment company traded on the New York Stock Exchange.
Age 68.
Susan Ness
Susan Ness
Principal, Susan Ness Strategies, a communications policy consulting firm.
Board committee: Nominating and Public Responsibility.
Other directorships: J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board; Vital Voices Global Partnership.
Age 63.
Neal Shapiro
Neal Shapiro
President and CEO, WNET.org.
Board committees: Nominating and Public Responsibility; Transformation.
Other directorships and trusteeships: American Public Television; Investigative Reporters and Editors (IRE); and the Board of Trustees, Tufts University and the alumni board of Communications and Media Studies program, Tufts University.
Age 53.
Wrong Number
The number provided for Mr Worley is wrong.
(718) 527-0832 belongs to a Mr Charles White who resides at a different address.
http://411.info/people/New-York/Rosedale/White-Charles/97333131.html
Might want to correct this ASAP
The poor guy has been getting threatened and cursed at all day
Nice try Mr, Worley
Nice try Mr, Worley
Don’t care if it’s wrong number
Maybe the phone books and 411 are wrong. I’m going to keep calling and bothering this guy all week.
Even if he doesn’t work at the newspaper, chances are he is black and liberal, and he lives in New York.
That’s enough reason to keep bothering him and his kids.
Attitude
Are you a liberal plant?
Journalism
This is something I posted elsewhere but the comment fits here as well regarding the media:
“” The response from gun owners was angry and chilling. Some of them posted the names, addresses and phone numbers of editors, the publisher and reporters at the Journal News”” – Susan Milligan.
So let me get this straight if law abiding gun owners post personal info on journalists it is angry and chilling but if law abiding journalists post personal info about gun owners it is responsible journalism? Double standard much? No wonder people think journalists are scum. And please don’t tell me that the paper posting gun owner info wasn’t an intimidation tactic to try and cow people from buying guns. Journalists disgust me more than politicians and that is saying something.
Could not agree more.
Could not agree more.
Excellent Map!
Only 1 thing shuts up a liberal: FEAR!
Where is the info for Rob Cox?
I’d also like the addresses of his family members and loved ones. Because this is all so harmless.
Anonymous, are you writing
Anonymous, are you writing the Journal News, who started the whole “outing” thing, so that they will desist? Because if not, it seems you are blowing hot air on yourself and no one else is fooled.
Nice list.
The Transterrestrial space blog brought me here.
Great slap back to the lamestream, these flower thumping idiots can now feel safer that their right opinion is known.
even though this information
even though this information about the permit holders is a matter of public record there is still a reasonable expectation of privacy under the 5th amendment to the Constitution of the United States. we know that the writer of the original article owns a 357 magnum and has a permit to carry…why wasn’t his information in the article as well? oh yeah that’s because he is a liberal and thinks its ok for him to own a fire arm but not the rest of the public. all he accomplished was making unarmed people targets and gave criminals a map to any house they choose…really intelligent…i hope that these people who have been targeted by this writer and his entire news staff are sued in a class-action law suit for violation of their 4th amendment rights.
sorry that should have
sorry that should have read….reasonable expectation of privacy under the 4th amendment…not the 5th.
Gun owner
So…just out of curiosity was the reporter’s name and address on the map they released or did the paper keep their own employees off it????
Retired Marine…
They kept the people on their Staff with permits off their postings…
I think what that Comedian said is true…
Sorry, There Is No Cure For Stupid…
They seem to have Forgotten who gave them
and protects their right to even be in Business…
ie: The Armed Citizen…
Thomas Jefferson a past US President and also a Founding Father of the US Constitution…
“No Free Man Shall Ever Be Debarred The Use Of Arms
More Info!
For someone who would like to take the time, consult PUBLICDATA.COM and discover the sordid backgrounds of each and every one of them…
Criminals now know who does NOT own guns too! HA HA HA!
On the bright side, now all the criminals know what houses do NOT have guns..
Enjoy it, criminals! You now have a target list thanks to misguided liberal media!
Criminals now know who does NOT own guns too! HA HA HA!
On the bright side, now all the criminals know what houses do NOT have guns..
Enjoy it, criminals! You now have a target list thanks to misguided liberal media!
Never get a “licensed” gun if you expect privacy.
Journal News certainly did nothing illegal by publishing public information, so be careful that you obtain journalist addresses through public records before publishing. I do agree that it was an irresponsible move on the paper’s part and this here blog is a hillarious outcome of that decision. The lesson for me is to never get licensed to carry; illegal firearms are the only way to go to assure your freedom to defend against an overbearing government.
Better late than never:) dox for Randi Weiner
Love the map Robert. But you seem to be missing the writer behind The Journals weepy response articles Randi Weiner. or should I say Randi W. Gormley of Fairfield Ct.
http://kidnutrition.lohudblogs.com/author/rweiner/
http://www.facebook.com/randi.weiner.92
http://www.facebook.com/david.gormley3
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Randi-W-Gormley/Fairfield-CT/5gzxwwz
Dwight Worley has a permit!
Journal News reporter Dwight R. Worley owns a Smith & Wesson 686 .357 Magnum and has had a residence permit in New York City for that weapon since February 2011.
Dwight R Worley
23006 139 Ave
Springfield Gardens, NY 11413
But you might want to call him first to let him know you’ll be dropping in: (718) 527-0832
Wrong phone number!
The number given for Mr Worley in this story and also provided in your post is incorrect.
(718) 527-0832 is registered to a Mr Charles White who resides at a different address and is not employed by the Journal News in any way.
http://411.info/people/New-York/Rosedale/White-Charles/97333131.html
Dropping in? Who would want
Dropping in? Who would want to do that? It’s like the pedophile’s girlfriend; she’s there to do certain tasks for him and help him, just like these reporters help the Journal News. It’s good to know how to steer clear of such people, but that’s the point: steering clear. You don’t actually go TO pedophiles’ houses and “drop in” on them. Unless you’re really messed up!
Robert Brum
Northern
Robert Brum
Northern Westchester News Manager
The Journal News/LoHud.com
Home (845) 354-0243
6 Oak Ridge Rd
Pomona, NY 10970-2716
Robert Brum
Northern
Robert Brum
Northern Westchester News Manager
The Journal News/LoHud.com
Home (845) 354-0243
6 Oak Ridge Rd
Pomona, NY 10970-2716
Lots of minorities working
Lots of minorities working there.
I wonder why Libs never follow there own rules?
Anjanette I Delgado
2663
Anjanette I Delgado
2663 Heath Ave #18B
Bronx, NY 10463
Colin S Gustafson
Long Island City, NY
Laura A Incalcaterra
West Nyack, NY
James C Kwasnik
2 Berry Ln
Hicksville, NY 11801
Ken Valenti
2315 Memorial Ct
Atco, NJ 08004
Property Records
Can you not check online county property records, for at least those who own property? In my part of the country, the local newspaper was going to publish an article covering issues between homeowners and the city codes dept. The reporter wanted to interview me and said she could use my (and my wife’s) name without our permission since it was public record. So all anyone had to do was get on the county property records site, put in both our names, and viola’, there was our property address. Within 24 hours after the article was published, our house was vandalized, including our “neighbors” trying to steal our fireplace mantel right off the wall (it was stashed on the front porch apparently waiting for the culprits to bring back a truck to get it). Thank god my guns were locked up.
Lots of stuff their readers want to know.
I would be interested to know where the staff of the newspaper shops for groceries, what local gas stations they use, are their children involved in any after school activities, if so, which ones and where do they take place, do they go to the theater?, if so which one. clothing sizes, type of vehicles and licence plate numbers, where do they park when they are at work. and on and on and on. yep, lots of interesting stuff i would like to know about the papers staff.
Time For A Drive-by
No, NOT the Calif kind. Those who have the time and petrol, just drive-by one or two of these Journalist’s addresses SLOWLY and GAWK HARD!! Don’t stop, that would be loitering. A parade of GAWKERs would be great, make sure they see you. How about doing it at getting home from work time. See how they like being GAWKED at…
How do you like the right
How do you like the right now…
Outstanding response to…
a terrible injustice by the Journal News! I wonder if they like how this feels? To compare legal gun permit holders to the lunatics that have either stolen (after murdering the owners) or obtained by illegal methods the firearms to carry out these horrific murders is a travesty in the highest order.
Linked and republished to http://americanintelligence.us/index.php?/blog/1/entry-20630-turn-about-is-fair-play/ to help spread the word.
Good job!
Not feeling sorry one bit……
The Journal News had no regard for LEGAL, LICENCED and LAW ABIDING citizen’s well being when they published the data. What value does this serves other than stigmatizing a neighbor as the “bad man with the gun” or making them targets of gun thieves. I can tell you no one I know had “public interest” to see this data. I usually look at readers comments that go with online articles, and those related to the tragedy at Newtown CT were chock full of wishes of bodily harm and death to gun owners and the NRA members.
Now a map of known drug dealers and gang members would be nice. But I bet they’ll never do that.
“The bad man with a gun”?
No, the worst of it is that the map identifies the dummy next door without a gun.
You’re looking through the wrong lenses
The JN did this to expose licensed gun owners. Since rifles and shotguns are possessed w/o licenses and are far more common than handguns, homes not on the list are still a big mystery to criminals. But your point is well taken, flip a coin for the bad guy whether there is an armed homeowner or not.
Two wrong’s don’t make a right.
Careful about escalation, here, kids. Many of you just might get what you asked for.
You’d best be ready, willing and able to muster on the commons w/ your weapons.
Honestly, I’m impatient to see that day, myself, but I know the costs. Make absolutely certain that you, individually, are willing and able to pay the price of freedom. It doesn’t come cheap.
You have a right not to like guns but I have a right to have one
Thank You Sir for your service to the online truth,guns are not the problem. Goes to show you not all lawyers are bad or politicians. I hope the people “A##holes” at the Journal News get a clue the Pen and the press can be used by others. I do not believe in Blind open news coverage somethings should not be open to the public, shown online or that You have a right to know. The left wing party line has been pushed in our faces for to long, sometimes people do not have a right even a need to know!.Like embedded news reporters in a war zone that’s been a bad idea since day one.
Mr. Cox, I Live Here …
Unlike, I suspect, most of the people leaving comments here, I actually live in New Rochelle and sometimes come to Talk of the Sound to find out what’s going on locally. What lohud did was of questionable judgment, but two wrongs hardly make a right.
Did you consider that some unglued person might actually use this information to “punish” the journalists? And kissing up to the right-wing whackjob who writes Instapundit? Seriously?
Friendly advice: You might want to consider your regular readership base here in southern Westchester and maintain some distance from the guns, God and gays crowd.
So what do you suggest?
How do we get the Journal News invasion of privacy map site shut down?
Any constructive ideas?
Know any good hackers?
Know any good hackers? Anonymous comes to my mind!!!
The courage of anonymity
Hey, Anonymous:
When you come out from the shadows and sign your name to the crap you want to spin, then you can call law professors like Glen Reynolds, the editor of Insatpundit, any name you want.
In the meantime, STFU and grow a pair.
You couldn’t carry his lunch.
Two Wrongs Don’t Make A Right
Do you mean that Mr. Cox should have given the Journal staff the same courtesy and respect to privacy that the Journal showed law abiding permit holders? Isn’t that just what he did? Sometimes you have to finally stand up for what is morally right. And sometimes that action, however distasteful it may seem to you at the time; might be exactly what it will take to open the eyes of the offender. I applaud Mr. Cox for taking a stand.
I live here
“Friendly advice: You might want to consider your regular readership base here in southern Westchester and maintain some distance from the guns, God and gays crowd.”
COMING FROM A FAR LEFTY< IT"S NEVER FRIENDLY! HYPOCRITE ...
I live here
“Friendly advice: You might want to consider your regular readership base here in southern Westchester and maintain some distance from the guns, God and gays crowd.”
COMING FROM A FAR LEFTY< IT"S NEVER FRIENDLY! HYPOCRITE ...
Are You for real ???
Mr Cox are you for real…
From your Posting you are really as about as Far Left as the News Paper that published the List…
Let me inform you of something dummy…
They put a whole lot of Law Abiding peoples lifes in Danger…
Next time you go outside take a look around…
I have Many, Many Friends that also live there
and all of them Have Gun Permit/Concealed Carry…
You live in a Far Left Fantasy World…
This a typical Far left response to any time the Truth comes up and smacks them across the Brain Case…
Keep up the good work, Bob…
Newspaper Publishes Map of Local Gunowners – Gun Rights Supporter Publishes Map of Local Journalists
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/12/newspaper-publishes-map-of-gunowners-gun-rights-supporter-publishes-map-of-journalists/
S2488B-2011: Relates to pistol permit privacy
H/T to Dan OConnell on the tabloid comments. They broke the law.
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2488B-2011
did these bills pass and get signed into law?
The link you provided does not indicate that.
How do you figure?
BILL NUMBER:S2488B
TITLE OF BILL:
An act
to amend the penal law, in relation to pistol permit privacy
PURPOSE:
To require that when a person, other than law enforcement, requests a
search of the pistol or revolver automated listing under the Freedom
of Information Law (FOIL) that it is limited to a search by specific
name………………………
Not sure how this does not indicate that they broke the law. The bill says that you can request such information for a SPECIFIC person, not a broad geographic area.
Hah!
Perfect! Sharing far and wide 🙂
Street Address of Ed Forbes, Online Editor
67 Grandview Drive, Mount Kisco, NY 10549
Street Address of Janet S. Hasson, President and Publisher
3 Gate House Lane, Mamaroneck, NY 10534
Rebecca Baker
Rebecca Baker no longer works for the paper in question. Left May 2012.
Stick it right back to them!
I am R/T and reposting this everywhere,Great work!
https://twitter.com/LoHud/lists
Their Tweets, very telling
Thank you for posting this information. I’ve been reading some of their Twitter feeds and it seems obvious that they are just using Sandy Hook as an excuse to push their agendas.
This guy seems particularly classless but I imagine that he giggled when he wrote them.
Herb Pinder
Opinion Page Editor
The Journal News/LoHud.com
https://twitter.com/herbpinderNY
Herb Pinder@herbpinderNY
ICUMI. Editorial: The NRA chief took the week off after Sandy Hook. It was time spent reloading. http://lohud.us/W27GfW
Herb Pinder@herbpinderNY
Scientists can’t predict who will be the next Adam Lanza, but public records will tell you where the (legal) guns are. http://lohud.us/UmGRXy
Street Address of Liz Anderson Steinke
226 Read Avenue, Yonkers, NY 10707
Interactive Map
Bravo!
Janet Hasson
Janet Hasson LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/janet-hasson/6/316/254
Awesome
Love the data!
Awesome
Love the data!
2 Q’s
Which of these personel is on the gun owners list?
who wrote and aproved the publication of the gun owners list?
2 Q’s
Which of these personel is on the gun owners list?
who wrote and aproved the publication of the gun owners list?
No guns at these addresses?
So there are no guns at these addresses? None at all? The only defense they have are knives, maybe mace and cops that might show up in 10 -20 minutes?
No guns at these addresses?
So there are no guns at these addresses? None at all? The only defense they have are knives, maybe mace and cops that might show up in 10 -20 minutes?
Journal News Reporters
Thank goodness none of these “reporters or editors” live near me.
I’d have to consider moving out of town.
Nicole Futterman
Nicole M Futterman
Claim & Edit
Save Address to Mailer
Home (845) 638-2437
19 E Cavalry Dr
New City, NY 10956-5217
Age: 45-49
Associated: Jeff C Futterman
Don’t post thier address to craigslist. Don’t do it.
Do NOT post a yard sale advertisement on Craigslist. That would be wrong.
Do NOT post a hooker advertisement on Craigslist. That would be wrong.
Your article
Dude you are awesome!,,love it
Your article
Dude you are awesome!,,love it
Well done
Perhaps after a few thousand people have viewed their homes and neighborhoods they will understand why what they did was unacceptable.
Turnabout is fair play
Great idea. Have blogged about your post and linked.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2012/12/26/blogger-creates-interactive-map-employees-paper-which-published-names-an
Thanks!
Loved your article, commented on it and sent you an email.
Good for you, Anonymous, if only…
this would get the airplay the original map did.
How about the NRA, did anyone contact them? I wonder what their take on this will be?
Are we in Elementary School?
Seems somewhat immature.
Point made and perhaps some poetic justice but it ignores the fact that people do fear homes with guns and have some interest in knowing who owns a metal thing that can make smaller metal things go faster for the express purpose of killing.
Maybe you think that the safety issues (I think largely exaggerated) and the stigma issues (less dire and sexy to talk about but more realistic) outweigh the need of fellow residents and especially parents to know this info. (gun accidents are rare but do happen)
I don’t think this particularly informs the debate. People realize how invasive posting addresses can be (without needing this stunt to illustrate it) which is why many large media outlets have picked up this story. (and largely leaning toward the idea they shouldn’t have posted the info)
Posting this info seems vengeful, ignores some of the nuance of the debate and is likely to lead to harassment.
I don’t think so
After the Journal News published their map, there were a lot of people who were interested to know where the employees of the Journal News lived.
That view is attested to by the readership of this article, does it not? At this moment the article has been read over 13,000 times — and counting.
How’s that for nuance?
readership means
The readership just attests to the interest it generates not the actual value it gives. I’m sure the map that caused all the controversy in the first place has a ton of viewers as well.
There is a reason why (perhaps an irrational one) that people wanted to know gun owner locations. There is really very little reason to give anything but contact info for the Journal News employees besides harassment and to illustrate point. (even if you argue an address is contact info… why a map and personal phone numbers?)
Reason to know
It is useful to know which neighbors you can not count on when all hell breaks loose.
True
The education and sports reporters are really to blame here.
Sorry, I’ll stop. I will say, from a traffic/ ad revenue standpoint, this map was a great idea. Also the other comments are great reading material. Better than subscribing to FreedomWorks.
Happy to read you’ll stop, dolty,
since you are not very good at counterpoint.
Yes, do go back to brown-nosing your bosses at the Journal News.
Are they cowering under their desks yet?
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ain’t it lovely, how those who dish it out, can’t take it?
I truly hope some day soon
I truly hope some day soon someone posts information about you on a map to “mark” you because you don’t follow the perverse teachings of socialists scum. I truly do. Then MAYBE you’ll finally get a clue. Remove your head from your ass.
rules? in a knife fight?
This about says it all:
[Harvey has challenged Butch to fight for control of the Hole-in-the-Wall gang]
Harvey Logan: Guns or knives?
Butch Cassidy: Neither?
Harvey Logan: Pick!
Butch Cassidy: I don’t want to shoot with you, Harvey.
Harvey Logan: [draws a big knife] Anything you say, Butch.
[Butch walks over to Sundance]
Butch Cassidy: [in a low voice] Maybe there’s a way to make a profit in this. Bet on Logan.
Sundance Kid: I would, but who’d bet on you?
Harvey Logan: Sundance, when we’re done and he’s dead, you’re welcome to stay.
Butch Cassidy: [low voice, to Sundance] Listen, I don’t mean to be a sore loser, but when it’s done, if I’m dead, kill him.
Sundance Kid: [low voice to Butch] Love to.
[waves to Harvey and smiles]
Butch Cassidy: No, no, not yet. Not until me and Harvey get the rules straightened out.
Harvey Logan: Rules? In a knife fight? No rules!
[Butch immediately kicks Harvey in the groin]
Butch Cassidy: Well, if there aint’ going to be any rules, let’s get the fight started. Someone count. 1,2,3 go.
Sundance Kid: [quickly] 1,2,3, go!
[Butch knocks Harvey out]
Flat Nose Curry: I was really rooting for you, Butch.
Butch Cassidy: Well, thank you, Flatnose. That’s what sustained me in my time of trouble.
Who started this, you dolt?
————why a map and personal phone numbers?
Obviously you are either one of those (ha, ha, ha) whose name and address and phone number are on Bob’s very wonderful list, or ……… you are truly a dolt.
Either way, enjoy the tit for tat. Lovely, ain’t it?
BTW, Einstein, look up the word ‘harassment’ – your bosses at the Journal News started the harassment.
Again, enjoy the turnabout is fair play aspect of Bob’s wonderful map.
Thanks from Illinois…
Great work! In Illinois, our Atty Genl has pushed publication of the state residents who hold a ‘FOID or Firearms Owners ID card’ (whether they own or not) in the past.
You have provided us with a great method of retaliation when they try to resurrect this ‘practice’ when she becomes Governor of this corrupt and bankrupt state!
Bob…it’s very confusing…
when there is an Anonymous who appears to be from the Journal News and posting on the side of the invaders of privacy and an Anonymous in Illinois and an Anonymous in New Rochelle who is with those who are against the invaders of privacy in the Journal News.
So anyone can post as ‘anonymous’? I didn’t realize that.
Dear Anonymous who lives in New Rochelle and is against what the Journal News did: you might want to identify yourself as Anonymous #1, so your posts can be differentiated from the Journal News moles and cowards on this board.
Why Anonymous
As a rule only registered users can comment on Talk of the Sound.
From time to time we have a story where we get a lot of people who are not regular readers and not likely to become regular readers of Talk of the Sound.
When that happens I will temporarily lift the restiuctions as I have done in this case.
Why Anonymous
As a rule only registered users can comment on Talk of the Sound.
From time to time we have a story where we get a lot of people who are not regular readers and not likely to become regular readers of Talk of the Sound.
When that happens I will temporarily lift the restiuctions as I have done in this case.
People don’t fear inanimate
People don’t fear inanimate objects like guns, MORONS and criminals do!
Hell yes it’s vengefull. What the marxist RETARDS at that paper did is disgusting and they deserve to be punished for it.
honesty
I like the honesty. This was done for vengeance and likely to incite harassment. I’ll give Bob a break and say maybe it was legitimately meant to prove a point and just with a disregard for the possible harassment it may incite since they brought it upon themselves. (even though it is hard to argue that every Journal News employee deserved to be punished)
I hate those marxists too. We should have a map of all of them. I fear that this county, dare I say this state, is full of them.
Morality and High Mindedness
It would be entirely wrong to swat the major editors and reporters of this rag, entirely wrong.
I don’t think so…
I don’t see why they should be excluded from the map – maybe it will help convince them to keep their dogs on a tighter leash. The Journal certainly didn’t make any distinctions about who they included on THEIR map – it’s not like they only showed ‘bad/dangerous’ gun owners. This map simply replaced the broad ‘gun owners’ data with ‘Journal Employees’ data – aside from that I see no difference. This is just an example to help them understand the concept that even if something is a matter of public record, that doesn’t mean broadcasting it or highlighting it in a full-frontal public display is a good idea.
Turnabout.
When I initially saw this story, my thought was:
Posting this info seems vengeful, ignores some of the nuance of the debate and is likely to lead to harassment.
So i must conclude that you are a woefully un-self-aware dumb shit.
turnabout
Is turnabout really always fair play? Besides my point that it isn’t quite a 1:1 comparison, most of us learned in elementary school/ church/ anywhere they teach this stuff that an “eye for an eye” philosophy isn’t that great.
Grace, is that you?
Next time, think twice.
nah
I swear I am not at all affiliated with the Journal News which is even better because I can take the moral high ground and judge both sides. Self-righteousness is very enjoyable.
Fair Play?
Uh, an ‘eye for an eye’ is quite effective, which is why in certain circumstances it is entirely appropriate.
The press, in this instance, has deemed it fair play to alert the public to the addresses of individuals who own guns. Likewise, let them explain why it is not fair for others to publish their own personal information.
They are being schooled with the effects of their own ‘logic’ and ‘reasoning’.
Entirely appropriate.
Janet, is that you?
Don’t like it when you get back some of your own?
Too bad.
effort at reasonableness
If the debate where being held in an elementary school style, many, if not all, of the actions/comments on the anti-selfdefense side of the arguement would be deemed inappropriate or ad hominem attacks on the pro-selfdefense side. This is nothing more, nor nothing less, than giving the anti-selfdefense side a taste–not the entire menu of crap-ola that they dish out–of their own medicine.
The spite and vitrol being expressed by the journo-list list wannabes of the Journal News on this topic lets me know they aren’t intelligent, unbiased, or capable of empathy for those they don’t understand. I wouldn’t trust them to babysit my kids.
Of course they’re not…
they are morons interested only in eyeballs and selling their rag and convincing morons to PAY them to read their tripe on the lohud site.
They are cowards and cretins.
Can we get their map url shut down?
Any ideas?
The back and forth insults are fine, but we need a plan of action.
I want to see their filthy map site shut down.
I BET your name was not on the list
You would feel differently if your name was on the list. I think the Journal news is wrong for what they have done. I cancelled my newspaper from them and I advised my family to do so too, and they are too. All my family members have been getting the Journal News for all long as can remember.
I BET your name was not on the list
You would feel differently if your name was on the list. I think the Journal news is wrong for what they have done. I cancelled my newspaper from them and I advised my family to do so too, and they are too. All my family members have been getting the Journal News for all long as can remember.
I fear homes with dumbasses.
I fear homes with dumbasses. Please let me know your address so I can ignore it.
Funny how libs whine when their little baby games are flipped back on them.
What was immature is the newspaper posting what they did.
Abject fear is what drove them to post the gun owners information.
Who fears homes with guns? Why would you? Are you afraid the owner will shoot you? If so why are you at there house anyways? I know all the people when I frequent there house. If I was worried about them I wouldn’t be there in the first place.
I am more worried about the idiots driving down the street junked out on something or on the cell phone then I am worried about someone who by mistake shoots me with a gun in there home.
Knee jerk, someone crazed kills people so lets just go off deep end.
It begins with something that holds 15 rounds then it is 10 then 5.
Next thing is you need to be a damn good shot with 1 bullet cause it will be all they allow you to have. Of course you have to be registered, huge fees, multiple continuing education classes, psych profiles completed and a physical before you can own a gun.
So when the criminal who cares nothing of all the rules above takes his gun and breaks in rapes and kills your family. Oh not to mention the tyranny of the government and the secondary if not primary need to own a weapon for defense.
At least we got the legal guns off the street!
Let’s be consistent
Of course, you immediately wrote a protest to the Journal News when they published their map? Somehow I think not.
How does that self-righteous BS taste?
We felt it was important in the aftermath of the Newtown shootings (to publish this information)… where so many Anti-American socialists are trying to capitalize on the tragic act of a deranged individual.
“where so many Anti-American
“where so many Anti-American socialists are trying to capitalize on the tragic act of a deranged individual.”
Bingo! All anti-american socialists preach this propaganda. It is called APARTHEID. Minority (deranged killer who glorified Satan I might add) ruling the majority. Aren’t you sick of this kind of garbage? I am! We dont need our rights taken away because of ONE person. This started in 1964 and has snow balled.
Obvious information lacking
Can someone drive by their homes and see if they have home security system yard signs? Also would be nice if they could publish if they see a fenced yard, a dog, tall bushes, etc. also, the home values, party afiliations, etc.
Map: Where are the Journal News employees in your neighborhood?
LOL…this is great. After all what’s good for one is good for all!!
Thank you.
Well done, sir! Very well done!
LOL!!!
Suck it, liberal babies.
Grow up.
This is poor taste, as well.
Anonymous
Eye for an eye. Tough.
Pricing of their homes
if you have an address, you can use Zillow to look up of the last sales price.
And Interior layout….
Well yes, yes you can also get the layout of the house when using Zillow.com. Being a cat burgler ain’t what it once was….
Good Job!
Good job these people need to receive the medicine they hand out. Expose them all!
This is poetic justice
This is poetic justice
NY Journal Folk
What a dork you are, Rambo. Or is it chickenhawk?
Add data for arrests, traffic Tickets, bounced checks, unpaid
Complaints, any salary information, transcripts, marriages, divorces..
Stuff like that..
Facebook
Probably shouldn’t be posting on their facebook pages or anything like that…
You rock
Turn about is fair play and all that. Time the smug bas*ards get what they’re handing out… it may be the first time in their lives btw.
Are you spreading the word on this map?
CNN, NBC, CBS Facebook and Twitter?
Lohud Twitter and Facebook?
Google ‘Journal News Map Of Gun Owners’ and see how many pages you get.
Now you need to do the same with this map and get some press.
Turnabout is fair play.
Shady Looking Characters
Is it just me, or do many of these folks look like toughs you’d find on a street corner or in a pool hall?
Touche!
Touche!
Commercial Appeal
Someone in the Memphis area should do likewise with Chris Peck and the dwindling staff of Liberal sycophants.
I love the new media more than Old Media hates my freedom.
I love the new media more than they hate my freedom. Excellent work!
EXCELLENT……….
and don’t forget about the alleged address of the CEO of this rag and lohud, the site that THINKS people will PAY to read their pathetic articles.
Gracia Martore
(703) 759-5954
728 Springvale Rd
Great Falls, VA 22066-2904
Good work, Bob.
The High Road
It would be entirely wrong to swat the CEO of this rag, entirely wrong.
Gracia Martore is a Marxist/Obama-voter
http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?city=Great+Falls&st=VA&last=martore
Check out her donations. She won’t fire CynDee Lambert. She’s in cahoots with this kind of stuff.
Excellent
Now correlate it to the gun ownership data. One color marker for owning a gun, a different color for not owning a gun.
No, just let us know if
No, just let us know if anyone is on BOTH lists.
Bubba St.Jaques , The North Is At War Again ?
I Have Been Reading These All Morning , I Mean We Have , A Few Good Men , Ya , Marines (Former), and Have Concluded That This could only happen in Yankee Land , down here (Terrebone Parish , La. ) we don’t have time to discuss little girl S**t Like This , We Just Can’t Figure Why its so important to give these Suckers the time O’Day ?
Just Don’t Talk about em ,and they’ll go away , maybe when some guy jumps off the Empire state bldg. or something .
JUST DON’T BUY THEIR RAG , And Pass em By When They Gotta Tin Cup !
Y’all b Good Now ,Cap’n Bubba , Bayou Tesh La.
Cap’n Bubba Gatuh Hunts , Bayou Tesh , La.